Going pte scm5031, need advice

[KiNg MaRtY]

So just in case I went ahead and ordered a restritor yesterday. I contacted PTE and they said to use a -4.

 

[JusMX141]

So just in case I went ahead and ordered a restritor yesterday. I contacted PTE and they said to use a -4.

A -4AN line, yes....but what size is the restrictor?


I should start building inline restrictors with gauges built-in that work like an adjustable fuel pressure regulator.

 

[dsm-onster]

I cannot honestly believe you support the knocking off of another company's product.

You have PITIFUL ethics.

Andrew, that is absolutely moronic. You have done nothing to prove your bogus claims. Bring it. In the meantime don't source your own opinion as fact. . .

Go a head start another thread. PLEASE! don't just deficate and then b!tch when others disagree. Cite the case number for the FP/PTE lawsuit when you start your new thread too

 

[Boosted98gsx]

Andrew, that is absolutely moronic. You have done nothing to prove your bogus claims. Bring it. In the meantime don't source your own opinion as fact. . .

Go a head start another thread. PLEASE! don't just speak and then b!tch when others disagree. Cite the case number for the FP/PTE lawsuit when you start your new thread too

It's not my opinon. This information came to me from FP.

Now, not only does PTE use knockoff chinese made garrret parts, they now use knockoff compressor wheels that they themselves cannot manufacture to perform.

 

[dsm-onster]

FP uses chinese turbine housings: old news.

Wheres the case number? What is the court proceedings based on this? Illegal is interpretation. So what is the deal? What are the similarities? Show the proof. I'm supposing you think that a compressor wheel is the same based on just two measurements (inducer and exducer). Based on the other thread you vomitted in at least. Yet coming from one bragging to understand the dynamic flow properties of various automotive apparatus. Stop giving your word of mouth sh!t and give actual proof. Start a thread and open the dabate citing your material data.

Ask Slippi84 what the HTA88r compressor wheel looks like. . .

 

[Boosted98gsx]

FP uses chinese turbine housings: old news.

Wheres the case number? What is the court proceedings based on this? Illegal is interpretation. So what is the deal? What are the similarities? Show the proof. I'm supposing you think that a compressor wheel is the same based on just two measurements (inducer and exducer). Based on the other thread you vomitted in at least. Yet coming from one bragging to understand the dynamic flow properties of various automotive apparatus. Stop giving your word of mouth sh!t and give actual proof. Start a thread and open the dabate citing your material data.

Ask Slippi84 what the HTA88r compressor wheel looks like. . .

If that's what you think, than I reiterate, you're an idiot.

I am not going to measure out, CAD, or laser measure out the dimensions of this wheel to post and prove to 1 person that the wheel is a knockoff. The point is, that it's a fact, and whether you choose to believe me or not, doesn't matter. It's the ethics of the matter that show that you are a poor excuse of a human being, and the fact that you would support or argue FOR a company that has proven that they knock off other designs shows more than I ever will with dimensioning out two wheels to your satisfaction.

So, go wallow in your self righteousness and envy. If you want to prove one way or the other, have fun. I don't need to. The history of that company speaks for itself.

 

[snowborder714]

Please leave out the name calling. There's no need for that.

 

[dsm-onster]

If that's what you think, than I reiterate, you're an idiot.

I am not going to measure out, CAD, or laser measure out the dimensions of this wheel to post and prove to 1 person that the wheel is a knockoff. The point is, that it's a fact, and whether you choose to believe me or not, doesn't matter. It's the ethics of the matter that show that you are a poor excuse of a human being, and the fact that you would support or argue FOR a company that has proven that they knock off other designs shows more than I ever will with dimensioning out two wheels to your satisfaction.

So, go wallow in your self righteousness and envy. If you want to prove one way or the other, have fun. I don't need to. The history of that company speaks for itself.

What a joke. You've proven nothing. Yet you still stand by it good job putting your head in your butt. Just as Amber of FP on dsmpurity told you go start a thread on it or something.

You're not talking to 1 person and you know it. Ethics violations of this magnitude would be horendous. You don't point to any ethics violations you just spoke out your ass about [like you frequently do]. Do yourself and everyone else a favor and take Ambers advice please. Start a thread, give proof in it, and keep it out of another non-related thread.

 

[Boosted98gsx]

What a joke. You've proven nothing. Yet you still stand by it good job putting your head in your butt. Just as Amber of FP on dsmpurity told you go start a thread on it or something.

I've proven you're an unethical person. That's all that needs to be done here.

 

[Killa_dsm]

I would like to see actual proof Andrew. I'm not doubting you, but would like to see actual proof instead of you just saying so.

 

[dsm-onster]

Thank you for proving to the world that I'm unethical when I asked for the proof or keep shut. You spout on the last thread to measure two sole variables of a compressor to prove your point. Previously you trumpetted your fluid analysis prowess on a SMIM thread yet showed nothing again. Furthur you said you 'live by fluid flow' on the dsmpurity chatango. Yet you state these are the only measurements neccesary to mimic a compressor. . . How much have you had? You accused Amber of being drunk.

I'm done. . . Any one else want to see this kids agenda, feel free to go to the last 100 posts in the dsmpurity chatango. Why fill both these forums with bold unproven statements? Again even Amber from FP told you to stop.

OP, yes you need really more injector than 650s for your turbo choice. Which is proven and is a great option. You really should look at an external gate setup as well. The PTE bolton housing with the way the t31 turbine wheel flows is not enough total flow to get much power out of that 50-trim comrpessor that fp uses in their fpgreen. I suggest getting a 6052 if you really want to stick with the PTE brand boltons. Or at least get an external gate to keep the WG shut and eek out enoguh flow with higher boost that will be required to get the most out of that turbine housing/wheel combination. Good luck. Keep us updated. Go with link, ds-map, or a keydiver chip w/ safc to get good tune with 750s or bigger injectors. And dont forget a wally 255 and AFPR.

 

[Dsmj89]

Wow ^... ouch.
Anywho, what o2 housings do you guys run with your pte 50 trims ?
I already talked to jusmx and made up my mind on my final turbo choice, thanks for the help justin, but will still like some info on this turbo.
At what boost levels does this turbo start to waken up ? For example the 16g feels to come alive at 14psi.

 

[tmil1]

Well, 650cc is what are you are limited to with the SAFC, which wont get you too far with that turbo.

The combo of manifold/o2/exwg you mentioned is teh secks.

I run a SAFC with 780cc injectors

I hacked the honey comb out of the MAF. That will definity allow bigger injectors. Never tried these injectors with the honey comb in.

 

[RadDsm]

The turbo is great around 25-26psi, and shouldn't have a problem getting there on pump gas.

An external WG would be good with this turbo, boost tends to fall at high RPMs. From 30psi to about 26psi by redline with the internal wastegate.

I run a SAFC with 780cc injectors

I hacked the honey comb out of the MAF. That will definity allow bigger injectors. Never tried these injectors with the honey comb in.

To each their own, but I bet your tune isn't super great. It's well known that 650-680cc is a good limit for the SAFC, the 2g timing map isn't as agressive as the 1g's though, so you can get away with it more.

It's a lot better to just tune with a better device (link) and have complete control, rather than a piggyback system with no timing control.

It's cool if its works for you though.

 

[dsm-onster]

^I really agree with that. You truely should have more control over your timing. You have a 2g though. You can go grab a 1998-1999 ecu and use the EvoScan cable and reflash the ecu. It will be a budget way of doing things. But a reflash is a reflash. You will have timign control and fuel control independently. . .

I liked the fp green (50-trim) I tuned at 26ish psi on pump gas. There was WAY more in it. But in my humble experience with it, it really woke up at about 23-25psi. But this can also largely depend on the turbine choice. The fp green has a better td06h turbine wheel with the smilar flowing 7cm^2 turbine housign found on the pte bolton turbos. I suggest an external as this turbo really liked to be pushed and I don't think an internal would have worked well w/ the setup I was exposed to. He ran a tial 38mm.

I hear you can get PTE external gates now that are very similar to tial

 

[KiNg MaRtY]

A -4AN line, yes....but what size is the restrictor?


I should start building inline restrictors with gauges built-in that work like an adjustable fuel pressure regulator.

I got the restrictor from extreme psi. It looks like it's going to be a pita to swap it in now with the turbo on there

Wow ^... ouch.
Anywho, what o2 housings do you guys run with your pte 50 trims ?

I am using a punishment racing divorced o2.

 

[91mitsuman]

I'm going to bring back this old thread Since I just picked up a 5031 journal bearing. What have you guys found to make them last . Would like to here feed line setups, return line, and balance shaft info, and If Any relief valve porting has been done.

 

[JusMX141]

More threads on the topic:

http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/turbo-system-tech/385207-pte-turbo-reliability-discussion.html

http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/tur...on-pte-turbo-issues-blown-smoking-merged.html

 

[jed344]

My buddy is running a PTE 6152 i think either way say 61CCE on back of compressor cover we are feeding his unrestricted off the head he does still have balance shafts. So far 500 miles and no play but who knows how long it will last. I am rocking the fp mani/20g/PR dump with tial f38 on my car and love it.

 

[91mitsuman]

I've read all those Justin it seems no ground has been gained on this subject Since 2009/2010. I was just hoping for some updates.