Getting ready to buy ECMLink, any advice?

[volkerding95GSX]

Hey guys! I finally am gearing up to buy ECMLink. I was hoping you could help me get my ducks in a row before I purchase. Thanks in advance!

For background on my car and mod list see this link:
http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/newbie-forum/420649-why-does-my-gsx-keep-getting-slower-each-upgrade.html

On the purchase page of the ECM Tuning website I'm purchasing the Full V3 version. I've selected 2G ECU type, stock 450 injectors, Stock MAF type, and socket EPROM ECU service. (I've already confirmed I have an EPROM ECU.)

1. Do you have any suggestions on anything else I NEED to buy from the ECM Tuning website to start tuning?

2. Are there any aftermarket parts I should get to make tuning with Link easier? (ex: Wideband, larger fuel pump, AFPR, ect) If so, suggestions on what type/brand would be greatly appreciated.

3. I have stock 450cc fuel injectors. I know I can still tune on those, however at some point, I will have to get bigger injectors. I've heard with Link you can use any sized injectors. So when I upgrade should I get 1000cc or larger to give myself room to upgrade to a bigger turbo down the road?

4. Last, and least important: Do/should/could you vent your BOV to the atmosphere with ECMLink, or do you still need to recirculate?

 

[viperlp01]

Musts
1. Just the package and socketing service
2.Wideband!!!!!!!!(not just easier, safer. How do you expect to tune the car if you have no idea whats going on.)
3. You can tune up to 2150cc injectors pretty easily on link. You need to set a goal and just not buy random stuff that wouldn't reach your goal.
4. Recirculate the BOV in any instance that your running a maf pre turbo. Technically any time the maf is in front of the BOV. When you vent you are releasing metered air out of the intake tract.

 

[snowborder714]

1. Nope, the package is all you'll need.
2. A wideband would be the first suggested additional item that most people will recommend. Look into the Innovate MTX-L.
3. Yes, that is a great way to do it. No point in upgrading to 680's only to find out you max them out the following year.
4. You should still recirculate it unless you plan on running a GM MAF in blow thru or a speed density setup. You can kind of vent (not sure how well it works, but I have read on some people doing it) if you activate and play with the MAF Clamp feature.

 

[jpmxrider489]

I would reccomend to get 1000cc injectors. Link is pretty simple but as far as tuning injectors, the bigger ones are hard to dial in. I went through a trade and ended up going back to 1000cc. I got my 1000cc dialed in. But with 2150 they have to be hard. I tried 1600cc and my AFR was all over the place.

 

[JayB12]

I've finally gotten the $$$ to buy link as well, and will be ordering this week. I'm only getting v3 lite, because I don't think I will need all of the full version's features.

 

[snowborder714]

But with 2150 they have to be hard. I tried 1600cc and my AFR was all over the place.

The 2150's are easier than the 1450-1600 range injectors.

 

[XiKeiyaZI]

I've finally gotten the $$$ to buy link as well, and will be ordering this week. I'm only getting v3 lite, because I don't think I will need all of the full version's features.

I run Lite and am completely happy with it.

 

[volkerding95GSX]

You need to set a goal and just not buy random stuff that wouldn't reach your goal.

Goal: I don't have very ambitious goals, just to get the car running right by fixing any boost leaks and getting a good Air/Fuel ratio via ECMLink, all while leaving room to grow with a FMIC/bigger turbo, ect, down the road.

 

[JayB12]

I run Lite and am completely happy with it.

This is what I'm trying to get across, a lot of people don't need the full version. OP, compare lite and full and see what meets your needs. I mean look at XiKeiyaZI, he's got a built 2.3 and lite suits his needs. You could get it and maybe throw that saved cash for some bigger injectors or something. Just something to think about.

 

[XiKeiyaZI]

This is what I'm trying to get across, a lot of people don't need the full version. OP, compare lite and full and see what meets your needs. I mean look at XiKeiyaZI, he's got a built 2.3 and lite suits his needs. You could get it and maybe throw that saved cash for some bigger injectors or something. Just something to think about.

With my last Talon which was also a 2.3 - It was able to get a solid base tune for it and never ran into any troubles at all. Car produced more than enough power, responded well to even the smallest adjustments I made, and I kept my AFR's dialed in right where I wanted them. The only thing I ever had issues with was the Narrowband simulation.

Full, I've found, is more commonly used in cars that see the track almost 100% of their life. It has a few more in depth features and tweaking abilities. A lot of these functions are really not needed on an every day driver. If you want it then get it - by no means is there nothing wrong with it. Just keep in mind that they made the 'Lite' and 'Full' versions for a reason.

 

[volkerding95GSX]

You guys are totally right, thanks for saving me money!!

You can still dial in your injectors, adjust fuel and timing tables, set your launch limit, run no-lift-to-shift, dial in your throttle position sensor, run anti-lag off the line or between shifts with V3 Lite.

I read somewhere on here a long time ago that you could only tune with Lite, and none of the extras listed above like 2-step. Nice!

 

[XiKeiyaZI]

Oh lord no. Lite has a ton of features included with it. Haha.

 

[robs gst]

I'm also buying link rite after the holidays and plan on going full only reason is if i end up needing a feature that's not included in lite i would kick myself why waiting on the upgrade. I used this to help me decide prodcompare [ECMTuning - wiki] ,also if i knew what i know than it would of been my first mod (after maintenance of course).

 

[Talondvr]

...only reason is if i end up needing a feature that's not included in lite i would kick myself why waiting on the upgrade.

You would only be kicking yourself about an hour or so for an upgrade. Its just a file. You'd be alright.

From ecmlink site "Turn around time: I wish I could say we'll get this upgrade file back to you immediately. But it may take a few hours to process depending on what else is going on and when you submit it. Please be patient with us and we'll get back to you as soon as physically possible."

 

[robs gst]

You would only be kicking yourself about an hour or so for an upgrade. Its just a file. You'd be alright.

From ecmlink site "Turn around time: I wish I could say we'll get this upgrade file back to you immediately. But it may take a few hours to process depending on what else is going on and when you submit it. Please be patient with us and we'll get back to you as soon as physically possible."

Oh thanks i totally missed that was thinking it was actually part of the chip.

 

[XiKeiyaZI]

You would only be kicking yourself about an hour or so for an upgrade. Its just a file. You'd be alright.

From ecmlink site "Turn around time: I wish I could say we'll get this upgrade file back to you immediately. But it may take a few hours to process depending on what else is going on and when you submit it. Please be patient with us and we'll get back to you as soon as physically possible."

I never actually looked at that...

.......Interesting...

 

[92AWDHX40]

I can wait ill upgrade soon got rid of my maft, which i like, and one day ill be running sd.

 

[volkerding95GSX]

Is there an agreed upon wideband 02 sensor that works best with V3 Lite? The only ones I hear about on here are the Innovate LC1 and AEM UEGO.

 

[LandSpeed-DSM]

Many people use the LC1 and PLX. I am using an AEM, but there are so many different AEM UEGO styles occasionally people have setup issues and end up defining the values supplied using P01 or P02 on the gauge controller and manually entering the voltage range. Also depends on which input you use.

For a 2G you have 2 oxygen sensors to begin with, so you can use the front or rear O2 input if I recall correctly.

 

[9!'clipseDOHC]

Is there an agreed upon wideband 02 sensor that works best with V3 Lite? The only ones I hear about on here are the Innovate LC1 and AEM UEGO.

The innovative ones do work best being logged with v3. If I was going to buy one speciccically for use with v3, then I would get an innovative. I however have an AEM UGEO and it logs perfect now that I have it properly setup using the LinearWB function. For info on how to do this check out this post: http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/log-file-advice/420020-tuning-n00b-looking-problems.html#post152792588