Forced Performance Cams

[1fastlaser]

well i got my cams in tonight,it took from 9-12.sounds nice at 800,at 1000 cant even tell.But i can tell you on thing boost is alittle scary now

 

[myblack98gst]

Damn I got outbid... I was hoping no one saw the post!!!! :thumbdown

 

[almostquick]

well i got my cams in tonight,it took from 9-12.sounds nice at 800,at 1000 cant even tell.But i can tell you on thing boost is alittle scary now

did you put them in the RRE way?

 

[1fastlaser]

No i put them in taking the timing belt off,I needed a new one anyway.It was very easy

 

[v8s_are_slow]

Damn I got outbid... I was hoping no one saw the post!!!!

heck yeah ya'll had better be about ready to pay full price for em if you're bidding on em. i know i'm ready, otherwise i'll just have to buy them direct i guess. but ya'll may as well not waste your time bidding and lemme win. hehe!

by the way, my daughter's newphew's son's grandfather has a friend of a friend who knows someone who has a last dying wish to go fast in a car with some FPcam2's installed in the car before he dies. it's his christmas wish. ya'll don't wanna rob him of that do ya'll? haha! sure that's believable

 

[almostquick]

mine just came in, hopefully I can get all the gaskets and drop them in by this weekend.

 

[peregrine]

mine just came in, hopefully I can get all the gaskets and drop them in by this weekend.

post immediate impressions and then tuned impressions if you will.

 

[almostquick]

will do, I plan on taking a lot of picture's to possibly creat a whole write up on it also, and I'm also a film student right now so a little bit of the process might play a role in a movie I'm making.

 

[Tort9320g]

No offense, but 4 pages of posts and the best feedback from actual FP2 owners is from a guy with a 50 trim that runs 12.7 @ 111????? Where's some real data from fast cars that actually need cams like FP2s? Or better yet, has anyone swapped from HK$ 272s to FP2s and done back to back dyno pulls? I'm running 264/272s now and if I don't see some real data that convinces me that the FP2s are better than 272s in the real world, I'm just gonna sell the 264 and get the 272. (Or maybe I'll have to be the guinea pig )

 

[jott5555]

its because we all drive dsm's and cant afford to get ny dyno time.. were too broke..


i also would like to see some real world numbers as far as hks vs fp2 ect...

 

[anconover]

Ive got some graphs here ill post i totally forgot i had. I got them from anoldsman, he works for comp and is actually a member here.

*Note on the graph, the cam degreeing runs, on the first run, i believe the red was the final grind comp chose for the 101200's. The 2nd graph is the 101100s vs 264's vs stock cams. You can see they overpower the 264's quite a bit.

Shitty thing is, i know nothing about the vehicles setup. Sorry i totally forgot i had these hehe.

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[anconover]

also, compare the FP2 exhaust spec sheet posted on the previous page versus COMP's specs of the 101200's here http://compcams.com/Technical/Catalogs/NP2004/Page-3.html


Both have a 212 duration @ .050, both have a .395 valve lift. But the centerline degree seems to be different, i dunno.

 

[1fastlaser]

hey tort,we have met before in philly.I have the white 92 laser awd.I swaped in some comp cams stage 2s 2 days ago.I also am running a t3 to4e 57 trim,now.I traded my old turbo off my car for the brand new cams.I can tell you it definatly made a difference.First and second gear pull instantly a difference,for what it counts.I couldnt even keep control of the steering wheel .The cam install to close to 3 hours,of just bsing around and taking our time.

Ill will be going to xoticmotorsports to get tuned probly next weekend.Im waiting for my new vpc air temp sensor,and i got a dsmchip comming too.Then ill be set to go get it all in sink.

 

[Dallas J]

No offense, but 4 pages of posts and the best feedback from actual FP2 owners is from a guy with a 50 trim that runs 12.7 @ 111????? Where's some real data from fast cars that actually need cams like FP2s? Or better yet, has anyone swapped from HK$ 272s to FP2s and done back to back dyno pulls? I'm running 264/272s now and if I don't see some real data that convinces me that the FP2s are better than 272s in the real world, I'm just gonna sell the 264 and get the 272. (Or maybe I'll have to be the guinea pig )

Hey, thats not nice .

12.7 @ 111 was before cams, on an extremely worn out centerforce clutch (hence the MPH-trap ratio)

Also knock has been a prevailent issue, on 100octane that day I still couldnt get rid of it.

Cams and methanol injection have been changed since, and a new clutch will go in before next season when Ill be able to get new times.

-Dallas J

 

[Tort9320g]

I understand what you're saying, but put yourself in my position. Would you consider the results of someone with tuning issues and a slipping clutch to but useful information in deciding whether the cams are a worthwhile choice?

 

[Dallas J]

I understand what you're saying, but put yourself in my position. Would you consider the results of someone with tuning issues and a slipping clutch to but useful information in deciding whether the cams are a worthwhile choice?

All I was adding is that the 12.7 was with stock cams. FP cams went in a month later at least.

Also, its not tuning issues with my car. Its some sort of phantom knock, or carbon built up in the engine. Lower boost, timing, or riching it up doesnt change anything, but it still comes on as looking like real knock. Hence the reason for the water/alky injection

I just added that my airflow went from a max of 40lb/min with stock cams at 26-27psi to 40lb/min at 17psi. 10psi less boost to get the same airflow for me.

Also 17psi before gave me 34lb/min, and now I get 40lb/min at the same boost level.

-Dallas J

 

[v8s_are_slow]

okay i won the auction (wish i could've saved a few more bucks though....dang it) so hopefully the cams will be at my door here soon. but i'm waiting on a dsmchip to get to me any day now and wanna get it tuned with that before i throw in my cams. i'd like to see what the difference is with cams alone. but with good tuning 1st. maybe by the end of the month i can post back here with a review.

anyone else have anything as far as a review goes.....for now? you guys that were about to install them, did ya get them in yet? impression on em?

scott

 

[1fastlaser]

I just did my cams last week,and got my dsmchip in today.

all i got to say is wow,the chip was worth every penny.I had a check engine light for awhile for barometric pressure (im running a vpc) he locked it out so the ecu gets the right signal and it works great,no check engine,pulls way harder on 27psi then friday night.Man oh man im scared

 

[v8s_are_slow]

yeah, but how much of a change did ya notice with the cams?

 

[1fastlaser]

no track times yet, but lets just say i gave a supra 5 cars fri night an launched it a 5 grand an the car came out completly sideways bouncing off the rev limiter for atleast 50 feet. had him up top by 7 cars looked at the speedometer i was around 117 22 pound on a 57 trim didnt expect that to happen out the hole

 

[lord_gufi]

I have a set of the FP COMP 2 cams in my 2.3 FP red powered motor, even with the 2.3 they pull to 8k even with a stock head and stock intake manifold. Almost every one ive talked to with HKS 272 said power drops off alot after 7k with a 2.3.


Eventualy I plan on running up to Forced performance to have my car dyno'd on 18-22 psi with 92-93 pump gas, possibly race fuel if i feel daring that day.

 

[almostquick]

so, um, ya, these cams kick ass! I'm still currently on the 14b (waiting for a big snail for christmas) but took the car out tonight, pulls so much harder to redline, I dont even notice a loss in lower RPMS, Cant tell that you have cams at idle, oppossed to 272's.all in all it is definatly worth the money. I can only imagine how much fun it will be with a 50trim.

 

[98spydert]

so, um, ya, these cams kick ass! I'm still currently on the 14b (waiting for a big snail for christmas) but took the car out tonight, pulls so much harder to redline, I dont even notice a loss in lower RPMS, Cant tell that you have cams at idle, oppossed to 272's.all in all it is definatly worth the money. I can only imagine how much fun it will be with a 50trim.

The FP2s?

 

[almostquick]

yep

 

[DSM007]

If you guys were really worried about using the stock springs on an aftermarket cam then why not just shimm the springs?

I dont have the fp cams but I do have my stock cams regrounded to 264 specs ,and when we swapped it , I was told to shim the springs for a bit of security.

Hey maybe that would help?

who was able to reground your cams to 264 specs,Im interested.