external wastgate on stock manifold.

[DGajre777]

As said above, port match it to a 7cm gasket.

But then again, FP isn't known to build fast, reliable turbo setups either.

Curt Brown's FP35R HTA 1G Talon

I'm sure a lot of other members will disagree on this point with you. But in any case, this is not the vendor feedback section.

 

[1gDSM4g63]

Punishment Racing Mild Steel Tial 38mm external wastegate recirculated o2 housing 2.5"

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[matt98eclipse]

Did you open the collector area up to match a 7cm2 gasket, or did you just port the collar out of the inside of the 6cm2 hole? It's hard to tell from the pics.

If you just ported out the collar, you'll want to keep going to make sure you get the full 7cm2 opening to match your turbo.

I only ported out the to the collar part. Before i install the manifold im gonna port it out to the full 7cm. Should help out a little with faster spools.

Any one know were i can get the 7cm gasket for a decent price?

Thanks for the help guys.

 

[JusMX141]

I'm sure a lot of other members will disagree on this point with you. But in any case, this is not the vendor feedback section.

Of all people, I figured a Wiseman would be able to read through sarcasm.

I was posting in reference to need2boostpsi's post above regarding wastegate placement, and I closed my statement with a comment about FP not knowing what they're talking about, when they're obviously one of the best choices for turbocharger modification. Both of my cars have FP turbos on them....well, the 18G's on the FWD but the Red's not on the AWD just yet as the car's far from completion.

I know well of Curt's accomplishments....he's a regular at my local dragstrip.

 

[DGajre777]

Of all people, I figured a Wiseman would be able to read through sarcasm.

I probably should have paid attention to the " " at the end.

 

[matt98eclipse]

Hey guys heres just a little update. I finished installing eveything all thats left its to take off the internal wastegate. I think it looks really good what do you guys think?

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[Kevin Jewer]

As another point of reference I used to run a Deltagate off the collector of a 2g manifold. It's a piece FP built when most DSMers were still shittin in their pants. It's still going strong on another car I put it on and sold after all these years.

As a side note, to continue to beat the dead horse even deader, using the example of the FP housing putting the WG in the O2 location hardly makes for a good comparison. That housing is cast specifically with that WG placement in mind, while most people running one on the O2 housing are still going through the tiny stock flapper hole, maybe with some porting. In my experience, collector mounted WGs work better than anything else, but the FP design also works well because the hole leading to the WG is huge. YMMV.

 

[1FAST2G]

I got you all beat! Twin wastegates on a stock manifold. You need to use a aluminum radiator and have the outlet moved though.

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[dsm-onster]

As another point of reference I used to run a Deltagate off the collector of a 2g manifold. It's a piece FP built when most DSMers were still shittin in their pants. It's still going strong on another car I put it on and sold after all these years.

As a side note, to continue to beat the dead horse even deader, using the example of the FP housing putting the WG in the O2 location hardly makes for a good comparison. That housing is cast specifically with that WG placement in mind, while most people running one on the O2 housing are still going through the tiny stock flapper hole, maybe with some porting. In my experience, collector mounted WGs work better than anything else, but the FP design also works well because the hole leading to the WG is huge. YMMV.

Yea. A minigrinder and a carbide bit works wonders. I think that is cheaper than a turbine housing . Even taking the piece to a machine shop and having them cut the hole larger is far less expensive. No creep for me. Rock solid boost. Affordable. My BEP turbine housing I pictured earlier in this thread has a 38mm wastegate hole. And the wategate is a 38mm TiAL wannabe.

 

[airmail96]

I got you all beat! Twin wastegates on a stock manifold. You need to use a aluminum radiator and have the outlet moved though.

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All I can say is wow.

 

[JusMX141]

I got you all beat! Twin wastegates on a stock manifold.

OVERKILL-MUCH!

If more = better, I'll weld up a manifold that has one on each runner.

 

[Project2G]

OVERKILL-MUCH!

If more = better, I'll weld up a manifold that has one on each runner.

HX40. Dual wastegates, dual 255lph

 

[dsm-onster]

For a twinscroll and divided runner manifold, I see dual wastegates being ideal. . .But a single 38mm gate has done fine on several setups with the hx40 turbine wheel in the bep housing. Personally I'd up to one 44mm to be sure I had enough gate. 2 8mm gates is enough flow area as one 53mm gate. TiAL has a 60mm gate. No matter, that twin gate setup should definately regulate the boost well. And will more evenly draw exhaust gases from the cylinders, since at least you're getting number 4 involved; unlike a single gate on just the number 1 runner.

 

[99gst_racer]

OVERKILL-MUCH!

Not only overkill, but inconvenient.
Something that requires radiator modifications and yields no positive gain.... WTF


For reference; one of my old manifolds:

 

[matt98eclipse]

Very nice paul. That looks like a great early christmas present. I was reading on your post that had all those pics. Just a little update. The X holds a rock solid boost now it right at 22psi. Also i FINALLY got it to pass emissions today!! It took 4 trys . The idle standard limit is 220 my car blew a 218 so i BARELY passed. Im very happy now i can go out and rip up the streets .