EvoScan - Does anyone use it??

[mnetwork]

I was looking at Evo tuning.. I was bored... and I stumbled across something that they use a lot as a logger. It is called EvoScan. I went on the web site: http://www.limitless.co.nz/#SupportedVehicles, and it actually says it works with our cars too and any mitsubishi up from 94 using the "MUT/MUT-II/MUT-III protocol" for the logging... This logger logs everything including knock sum.. would it be possible that because this logger uses the Mitsubishi protocol and not the generic obd protocol that it can log things that the other generic obd2 loggers can't?

 

[mikyrc]

Based on your profile, you have a 95 ECU. So I'm still wondering about the '97s.

No, no. I tested with the '97 ecu. I'm selling the GS-T so i leave it back to stock condition.
So the test was done with the stock '97 ecu on it.
I haven't tested on the '95 (with keydiver chip on it). If i have a chance i'll do it.

 

[TSI_Pimp]

No, no. I tested with the '97 ecu. I'm selling the GS-T so i leave it back to stock condition.
So the test was done with the stock '97 ecu on it.
I haven't tested on the '95 (with keydiver chip on it). If i have a chance i'll do it.

Yeah if you can do it on the 95 let us know im really interested in getting this.

 

[dikdiamond]

But about the '91 talon, nope. The cable that he sends is the one somebody posted above, it's a USB with OBDII connector and a thin black wire coming out of it that goes to the 12 pin white connector also suplied.
But the problem is that the 12pin connector has only 1 wire on it, so you can't connect with just 1 wire.

I asked him about it and he told me that he only said that "it would work with minor wiring modification". Cool guy. (that's not what you can understand from the website)
And that he will send me soon an explanation of how to rewire the 12pin connector to make it work with the cable and software.

I'm still waiting....

That sucks,I am waiting as well. I'm about to purchase a logger since my new turbo will be in next week. I was hoping this would be figured out already..."minor wiring modification" what the heck could that be??

 

[1997hciv]

I have a 97 and a pocket logger, so your saying that this works for a 97 now? Also did someone mention something about reusing the same cable as the pocket logger for this?

 

[kenamond]

No, no. I tested with the '97 ecu. I'm selling the GS-T so i leave it back to stock condition.
So the test was done with the stock '97 ecu on it.
I haven't tested on the '95 (with keydiver chip on it). If i have a chance i'll do it.

Gotcha...cool! Did you happen to notice the sampling rate? Anyone wanna buy my pocketlogger .

 

[95autogst]

So I don't really understand why it is taking so long this to work for 95-96 DSM's- they were all OBDII compliant... shouldn't this be simliar to a pocketlogger? If so it wouldn't be working with the ECU, it would just be reading the standardized messages that are being sent... right?

 

[mikyrc]

So I don't really understand why it is taking so long this to work for 95-96 DSM's- they were all OBDII compliant... shouldn't this be simliar to a pocketlogger? If so it wouldn't be working with the ECU, it would just be reading the standardized messages that are being sent... right?

No, it's not the same, it doesn't use the OBDII protocol.
That's why it can read knock and a lot more stuff than OBDII loggers. And also a datarate a lot faster.
It uses a special protocol made by Mitsubishi, is called MUTT i think. So it only uses the OBDII connector, not the ISO protocol.
What i don't know if it works with other cables rather than the one they sell.

And about the sampling rate, i'm sorry, i can't tell you much about it. You have a sample rate counter but it measures the samples/time in a weird way.
I'll try to figureout the samplerate but i can tell you it's a lot faster than my ELM logger and the other one i got.

 

[dsmzoom]

so can we use the pocketlogger cable with a capable serial usb cable?! I'm so excited it works with the 97' ecu. kenamond let me know what you when you get this, you have to keep me updated

 

[gsxeclipse97]

so what else can you do with the evo scan.. is there any tuning that can be done or is it just another type of logging? oh i got it now its just a logging tool not to tune with.

 

[dsmzoom]

if we were able to use ECUflash, you could use it as a tuning device.

 

[Boosted_Curse2]

/\ this is what I want to know, if any tuning can be done with it.

 

[1997hciv]

OK so I emailed them and about 2g cars and what can be done or what needs to be done to get it to work and he said "I think you may have confused logging with reflashing.. yes it will work for logging from 1994 onwards. No, reflashing will not work unless you put in a 98 or 99 ecu." So you can use it for tuning if you have the 98 or 99 ecu but you can just log using your 95-97 ecu. Hope this clears up a few things for everyone.

 

[turboking15]

so if you have a 98 or 99 ecu it can be reflashed via ecu flash with the tactrix cable?

 

[VPrime]

Evoscan is just used for logging.

For reflashing sofar you can sue OpenECU to view the Ecu, but you can not write to it... so basically you can do nothing as far as tuning is concerned(yet atleast)

It DOES NOT work on a 95. I have tried, even though the developer says it does, it doesnt (atleast with the last versions i tried)

Mikryc, does it actualy log knock? I know evoscan gives the option, but does the 97 ecu output the information? I always thought 2gs couldnt log knock like 1gs?

 

[mikyrc]

Mikryc, does it actualy log knock? I know evoscan gives the option, but does the 97 ecu output the information? I always thought 2gs couldnt log knock like 1gs?

I don't know. I'll try it. It can be activated but i just tried it on the garage with the car not moving. So i don't know if it reads. It should as internally the ECU uses that parameter, and because of that software doesn't use the OBDII protocol i think it will be more like the 1G's.

 

[EclipseSH21]

I shot the guy an e-mail, let him know about this discussion, and i'm also waiting for the 95-96 support to come out, as I run a 95 EPROM. He said it was close...thats about it. I'm so down to buy this, cant wait, it will complement my E-Manage perfectly.

 

[98GSXtreme07]

Vprime: I use EvoScan and it does log knock. Now if your asking if it specifically logs knock for the 97 ECU's than im not sure on that. On another note, EvoScan v2.1 is almost out just waiting on the email that includes the update. When I get the update I'll see what's new about it. Your supposed to be able to get rid of those pesky CEL's. Woohoo! Can't wait for that even though i dont have any CELs right now. Knock on wood!

 

[greddy_1700]

Ok, I think I am going to invest in this for my newly aquired 98 Spyder GST. But I am wondering if this will work on the 1g's? I mean I would love for this program to work for it to, Hell I would even be willing to buy a new cable specifically for my 1g!

 

[VPrime]

Just got the email for the 2.1 update.... i need to buy my self a 97 Ecu.... and car my car running

 

[jcurcillo]

I have EvoScn for my 98 GST. It works great. I'm not sure it will work with 94-97. If you look at the "Work in progress" part of the release notes you will see it says "1994-99 U.S.A. DSM - Found that it uses ISO9141-2 OBDII protocol, currently disassembling rom to check for other protocols". I know it works on 98-99 plastic ECU's so he may had wanted to say 94-97.

They just release a 1G cable.

EvoScan v2.1 - Release Notes:
- NEW Dataitem definitions updated... Air Temperature, Coolant Temperature, Fuel Consumption, Gear, Crank Signal, Idle Position Switch, Power Steering Switch, Air Con Switch, Air Con Relay, Inhibitor Switch, More Accurate Load Calc, Injector Duty %, LTFTs, STFTs, also many dataitems now have updated calculation functions to be more accurate.
- NEW Added ECU ID screen output for those who wish to build ecu specific data.xml lists.
- NEW OBDI/MUTI/ALDL/MMCD Diagnostic Program updated, faster/correct ecu connection, displays ECU ID.
- UPDATED Car PC Interface - use Evoscan.exe /AutoStartDatalogger to automatically begin logging on startup.
- EvoScan Website updated to include more ROMS for Subaru and Mitsubishi.
- EvoScan support helpdesk created, you can log any discussions or requests at EvoScan Support Desk
- NEW Gauge Template and Gauge Layout,thanks to Phil Scorgie in Australia.

Many more Gauges and Gauge Layouts to come in each newsletter.
- NEW Mitsubishi EFI/AYC/ABS USB cables available - These new usb cables support Mitsubishi the ABS and AYC ecu modules.
- NEW Awesome new AYC and ABS requestids, includes GForce, Lateral Gs, Brake Light, Steering Angle Degrees, AYC Left/Right, etc...

Support in progress:
32) 1994-99 U.S.A. DSM - Found that it uses ISO9141-2 OBDII protocol, currently disassembling rom to check for other protocols.
33) 2000 Australian Holden VTII HSV Clubsport (support in progress) Found that it uses LS1 protocol, also earlier models use ALDL protocol. Found that this is the same as GM vehicles in the U.S.
35) Nissan (support in progress) Found that it uses CONSULT protocol
36) Honda (support in progress)
37) Australian Ford (support in progress)
38) USA Ford/USA GM (support in progress)
39) 2005/2006/2007/2008 ALL Vehicles... Protocol support for OBDII/CAN/VPW/PWM.
40) Support for Serial Com Port cables. (support in progress)
41) Support for ELM323/ELM327 Cables. (support in progress)
42) Support for Mercury/Mercruiser Speedboats. (support in progress) Found that it uses a 2pin or 4pin plug for most models.
Development in progress...
- Innovate MTS chain inputs: boost/rpm/battery voltatage/aux1-32
- Zeitronix Boost accuracy issue.
- Gauge background and transparent images functionality.
- ROMs, Gauges, and Gauge Layouts Library.
- 95/96 US Eclipse, DSM and 3000GT Vehicle Support.
- US OBDII Diagnostic Trouble Code support.
- Trigger datalogging on Throttle Position Sensor %.

Upcoming features for v3.0 include:
- WebCam and GPS Tracker - with Lap and Sector Split times.
- Monthly updates on new Gauge templates and designs.
- Support to allow faster graphing, gauges and UI response rates.

 

[mattspyder]

evo scan 2.1 is out, I ordered this about a month ago, I havent received the email update yet???

 

[jcurcillo]

If you use email providers like Yahoo it would have been filtered into your junk mail. Check your spam. It should be there. It went out yesterday.

Apparently it works with 94-97 you just need to lower the baud rate. I got this from a post by Linksys42: "It has always supported all 2g’s the reason why people cant get it to work is because they are trying to connect at too high of a baudrate. Only 98 and 99 ecu’s that are Mitsu H8/500 ecu’s can log data at the baudrate 15625 that evo 8 and 9’s log data at.
On 95-97 they have to adjust the baudrate too 1953."

 

[mattspyder]

thanks for the help, but i checked my spam folder and it wasnt in there. I sent evoscan a email asking them to resend it.

 

[TSI_Pimp]

If you use email providers like Yahoo it would have been filtered into your junk mail. Check your spam. It should be there. It went out yesterday.

Apparently it works with 94-97 you just need to lower the baud rate. I got this from a post by Linksys42: "It has always supported all 2g’s the reason why people cant get it to work is because they are trying to connect at too high of a baudrate. Only 98 and 99 ecu’s that are Mitsu H8/500 ecu’s can log data at the baudrate 15625 that evo 8 and 9’s log data at.
On 95-97 they have to adjust the baudrate too 1953."

If this is true is there anyone that can confirm this?

 

[JrCRXHF]

If this is true is there anyone that can confirm this?

What bit rate for a 1g