2G Evo Brembo brakes question

[LSM]

I am in the process of rebuilding my newly purchased '97 GSX. I'm finally getting near the end of the build and I'm starting to piece everything back together. The guy I bought the car from had already swapped all of the stock brakes with Brembos from an Evo, but I figured since they were looking a little worn out, I would get them powder coated and I would also rebuild the calipers with fresh seals and bolts and everything. Thats where my question comes in, I would really like to swap the stock bleed screws with "speed bleeders" or "quick bleeders", whatever you personally might call them. In case I'm not being clear or giving the name everyone is familiar with, I'm talking about the bleeders that don't have to be tightened back down after every push of the brakes when bleeding the lines to avoid letting air in the system, the bleeders I'm looking for basically have a check valve in them so they won't suck air into the brake lines when letting off of the brake pedal. The problem is that none of the companies that make or carry those bleeders offer any info on which ones are for the Brembos. They have them for Wildwoods and Stop Techs and several others, but none of them show any for the Brembos! Does anybody know which exact ones will fit the Evo Brembos, both front and rear calipers? I don't think there's a difference between the front and rear bleeders, but I figured I would specify just in case! Any help would be greatly appreciated!

 

[FIBA M - EC17PSE]

Your looking for somethingnthats M10x1.0 thread. Thats all you will need to find the bleed nipples. You can check on russells as they do speed bleeders.

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[Doubleot]

Would you happen to know what length? Not sure it even matters but I am curious.

Your looking for somethingnthats M10x1.0 thread. Thats all you will need to find the bleed nipples. You can check on russells as they do speed bleeders.

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[FIBA M - EC17PSE]

Would you happen to know what length? Not sure it even matters but I am curious.

Threaded part is about 13mm long

 

[TSiAWD666]

An alternative is to just use a check valve in the bleed line for your brake fluid dump bottle. Works like a charm and my braking needs are way more critical than most.

 

[pauleyman]

I use a mity vac pump for my final bleed. First couple pumps I dont care but to take care of that last little bit the vac pump works well and has other uses. Otherwise my setup is a jar, couple binder clamps to hold the hose and several feet of rubber hose. I can change fluid and bleed all by myself. Mityvac kit also include some caps to screw onto a bottle of brake fluid and auto fill the reservoir while you're changing or bleeding.

 

[LSM]

Your looking for somethingnthats M10x1.0 thread. Thats all you will need to find the bleed nipples. You can check on russells as they do speed bleeders.

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Friggin awesome man, thank you so much for the info!!

 

[LSM]

An alternative is to just use a check valve in the bleed line for your brake fluid dump bottle. Works like a charm and my braking needs are way more critical than most.

I appreciate the info and it makes sense, but that's just adding an extra step......kinda defeats the purpose in a way ya know what I mean?! I will say this tho, I don't know why the hell I never thought of doing that way back before they came out with the speed bleeders! That would still make things a lot easier than the standard way of doing it for sure!

 

[LSM]

I use a mity vac pump for my final bleed. First couple pumps I dont care but to take care of that last little bit the vac pump works well and has other uses. Otherwise my setup is a jar, couple binder clamps to hold the hose and several feet of rubber hose. I can change fluid and bleed all by myself. Mityvac kit also include some caps to screw onto a bottle of brake fluid and auto fill the reservoir while you're changing or bleeding.

Thank you as well for the info! Even with the speed bleeders I think I'm gonna get one of those for myself just so I can bleed the brakes without needing a second person!

 

[pauleyman]

Thank you as well for the info! Even with the speed bleeders I think I'm gonna get one of those for myself just so I can bleed the brakes without needing a second person!

Umm....the whole point of speed blenders is so you can do it by yourself. I just didnt like it because you still need to pump the pedal so you can't see what's happening and you still need a way to keep the resovoir full. Now you would get the advantage of thread seal on a speed bleeder. At least that is how it appears to me. I've never actually used them.

 

[TSiAWD666]

I appreciate the info and it makes sense, but that's just adding an extra step......kinda defeats the purpose in a way ya know what I mean?! I will say this tho, I don't know why the hell I never thought of doing that way back before they came out with the speed bleeders! That would still make things a lot easier than the standard way of doing it for sure!

Uh, no, it's the same steps as with speed bleeders. Not sure you understand what a check valve is.

 

[LSM]

Umm....the whole point of speed blenders is so you can do it by yourself. I just didnt like it because you still need to pump the pedal so you can't see what's happening and you still need a way to keep the resovoir full. Now you would get the advantage of thread seal on a speed bleeder. At least that is how it appears to me. I've never actually used them.

I understand that, but the vac pump would keep me from having to keep stopping and going and pushing the brake pedal to bleed the air out!

 

[LSM]

Uh, no, it's the same steps as with speed bleeders. Not sure you understand what a check valve is.

I fully understand what a check valve is, I think I worded that wrong, thats my bad, I was half asleep. It's not adding an extra step but it's adding and extra part in the line where the speed bleeders have it integrated into the part. The downside in my opinion is the placement of the check valve cause you dont want it too visible and then also the issue of using the check valve with braided lines, I would have to basically make my own lines to put a check valve in between. Again, it's not at all a bad idea, just the speed bleeders simplify the whole thing!

 

[LSM]

I understand that, but the vac pump would keep me from having to keep stopping and going and pushing the brake pedal to bleed the air out!

I should have clarified, thats usually the main reason for having a second person, one person pushed the brake pedal and the other one bleeds the lines and keeps the reservoir full. Thats why I said the pump would make it a single person job, again I apologize, I was half asleep when I posted the responses!

 

[TSiAWD666]

No, you put the check valve in the output line that goes to your dump bottle, you don't make custom high pressure brake lines.

 

[LSM]

......then how does the check valve stop air from getting back in through the bleeder? Yeah man I'm sorry, now you've got me totally lost! I'm not even sure what having the check valve in the return line would do, I mean obviously it would stop any fluid from flowing back toward the brakes, but releasing the brake pedal when you push it down to get the air out would let air back in to that part of the line would it not? I'm sorry man, I'm not following you on this! Honestly you don't have to explain how exactly it works cause I'm just gonna use the speed bleeders anyways! Just trying to save you the time!

 

[LSM]

No, you put the check valve in the output line that goes to your dump bottle, you don't make custom high pressure brake lines.

Wait, are you saying to basically attach a tube to the bleeder and put the check valve on there? That would make sense, but would still make it more of a pain in the ass than the speed bleeders just because you would have to make damn sure the tube is on the bleeder nice and tight and you don't nudge it or something stupid while you're doing that! I think I understand now, sorry I got so damn confused there for a minute hahaha!

 

[lasthope05]

You still need to put a tube on the speed bleeders anyways. It makes no difference. Unless you're just letting it bleed all over the rotor/pads like a moron.

That idea is way smarter than using speed bleeders. Can't believe I've never thought of it. Only one check valve needed and universal to all cars.

 

[TSiAWD666]

To keep the dump tube tight on the bleeder you use a little pinchable hose clamp that just sits on the tube all the time. You pinch it with your fingers and slide it over the tube and bleeder end when you need it and off when you're done.

@lasthope05 gets it. I forget when I thought of it but when I did someone else had already been selling them and I found one on Amazon, made it easy for me. Just looked here's a complete bleeder kit that comes with the check valve already inline. I don't like that end fitting though, I'd probably pull it off and use the hose clamp solution I just described.

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[LSM]

You still need to put a tube on the speed bleeders anyways. It makes no difference. Unless you're just letting it bleed all over the rotor/pads like a moron.

That idea is way smarter than using speed bleeders. Can't believe I've never thought of it. Only one check valve needed and universal to all cars.

Yeah you would but being as the check valve is before the outlet tube, there's not gonna be a chance of the check valve not being open enough and increasing the pressure in the tube and it shooting it off of the bleed valve nipple! Thats why I said you would have to make damn sure that tube is clamped on there really good cause if you don't get that check valve opened quite enough because some little pebble or some kind of crap got in the tube and made the check valve spring or ball stick justva little bit, or any of the thousand possible wierd ass things that could potentially happen, shit could go bad pretty quick! Sure, if you made sure not to get anything in the tube then chances are that wouldn't happen, but I'm sure you know as well as I do that weird crap can happen pretty much at any time! The speed bleeders almost completely remove the "weird crap happening" factor from the equation! In my opinion the speed bleeders are way better than the check valve because of that reason alone! The check valve is a great idea if you don't have speed bleeders, but I would take the bleeders over the check valve just because it's all around easier when you really look at everything. But hey, to each their own, do whatever works for you!