Everybody Watch: "Loose Change"

[BOOstGhost]

you know where you can stick your conspiracy theories...

I can make up things to guys. Videos like this one pisses me off. It's just another liberal college student trying to make Bush bad. Kinda scary how our youth is turning out. Reminds me of Mao and Communist China when he brain washed the youth to overthrow the government after he lost some power. I'm not even going to watch it, all the other ones were a slap in the face to our Military and the families that were affected by 9/11
*edit* Leet you should have locked this

 

[No_Skillz]

I can make up things to guys. Videos like this one pisses me off. It's just another liberal college student trying to make Bush bad. Kinda scary how our youth is turning out. Reminds me of Mao and Communist China when he brain washed the youth to overthrow the government after he lost some power. I'm not even going to watch it, all the other ones were a slap in the face to our Military and the families that were affected by 9/11
*edit* Leet you should have locked this

That's basically being closed minded and proud of it. Is this how you want to represent the "conservative" side of the USA? And why is it scary that us youth have questions? I think it's even scarier that the govt. won't answer them.

Btw, if you took time to watch this video, you'll find that he uses real news, info, clips, and interviews. None of that is made up. Granted he draws some far out conclusions sometimes but some of the stuff raises a really good point. The point of this is not to say " THE GOVT DID IT" but to say "you as a citizen should find out what really happened."

 

[BOOstGhost]

That's basically being closed minded and proud of it. Is this how you want to represent the "conservative" side of the USA? And why is it scary that us youth have questions? I think it's even scarier that the govt. won't answer them.

Btw, if you took time to watch this video, you'll find that he uses real news, info, clips, and interviews. None of that is made up. Granted he draws some far out conclusions sometimes but some of the stuff raises a really good point. The point of this is not to say " THE GOVT DID IT" but to say "you as a citizen should find out what really happened."

i'm sorry but half of the videos like this are just plain stupid, they don't prove their sources and are half truths. Yup a missle hit the pentagon although numerous eye witness saw it happen and plus there were ACTUAL people on the plane. I'm not going to waste an hour and 30 minutes of life for something like that. Oh and the government is answering questions, it just seems like the left wing people are getting the answers they don't like and continue to question them. Seriously what reason would the government have to attack itself? I didn't finish if the video, if they said their reasoning please enlighten me. This thread really needs to be closed. Political threads are not allowed.

 

[EclipseSH21]

This thread should stay open, and your mind should follow suit. Is the fact that the government does wretched things so hard to believe? Look at the Roman purges or Soviet Russia- they killed thousands of innocent civilians. What makes you think our government is above doing such a thing?

 

[BOOstGhost]

This thread should stay open, and your mind should follow suit. Is the fact that the government does wretched things so hard to believe? Look at the Roman purges or Soviet Russia- they killed thousands of innocent civilians. What makes you think our government is above doing such a thing?

because they had tyranical leaders that forced themselves into power. We ELECT out own leaders. We put those people into office. I'm not going to sit here and debate with people, it's pointless. I feel like i'm one of the few young people left who are conservative.

 

[No_Skillz]

because they had tyranical leaders that forced themselves into power. We ELECT out own leaders. We put those people into office. I'm not going to sit here and debate with people, it's pointless. I feel like i'm one of the few young people left who are conservative.

You do realize that Hitler was also elected? That's actually one up on Bush since he didn't even get elected the first time around.

Oh and the government is answering questions, it just seems like the left wing people are getting the answers they don't like and continue to question them.

Not everything is answered. There is lots of info classified for the sake of "national security." Some answers are incomplete. Therefore, people DON'T like those answeres and do continue to question them.
Once again, I'm not trying to say (like some people are) that the US govt. was behind the attack. All I'm saying is that it is your duty as a citizen to find out as much info as possible. After all, if the govt. had nothing ot hide, why is so much info classified?

Debate is the heart of democracy. You should sit here and do it.

 

[Blitzeclips]

The video was great. No, this thread shouldn't be locked. It's a good topic of discussion in the Hangout.

The government doesn't hide things from us?? let's not forget about Roswell, New Mexico here!

They KNOW there are advanced forms of life out there and have the evidence to prove it, but they won't tell the public because everyone would go ape shit.

 

[EclipseSH21]

I feel like i'm one of the few young people left who are conservative.

There's a reason for that.

 

[BOOstGhost]

You do realize that Hitler was also elected? That's actually one up on Bush since he didn't even get elected the first time around.



Not everything is answered. There is lots of info classified for the sake of "national security." Some answers are incomplete. Therefore, people DON'T like those answeres and do continue to question them.
Once again, I'm not trying to say (like some people are) that the US govt. was behind the attack. All I'm saying is that it is your duty as a citizen to find out as much info as possible. After all, if the govt. had nothing ot hide, why is so much info classified?

Debate is the heart of democracy. You should sit here and do it.

Hitler killed his opposition. Also Hitler was a very charasmatic leader and promised to make Germany as powerful as it was and to bring back the fatherlands greatness when the German people were desperate and suffering from poverty. Bush on the other hand, well he's not so charasmatic. He still managed to be re-elected another term even after the war in Iraq and 9/11. In all honesty with the whole National Securtiy thing. What if the government came out and said there was another from of intelligent life and they were "monitoring" us. How do you think the U.S. population would react? This video was all about attacking Bush when it comes down to it. He has the right to do do too. I was just saying POLITICAL THREADS ARE NOT ALLOWED. Thats why it should be closed. If Defiant was here it would have already been locked.

 

[BOOstGhost]

There's a reason for that.

In all honesty, back in High School a lot of my friends were pretty right sided. Well you know what happens in college I was fed up with one of my teachers grading hard on you if you didn't agree with them.

 

[will90Eclipse]

You know what really scares me?? What if John Kerry had been elected presidentWTF
Instead of killing terrorist Kerry and Gore would of been asking them to please stop and offering the terrorist hugs

Hugs NOT Slugs___ My ASS

 

[quiksilver38]

that videos so farfetched it must be true, stupid rich people always trying to get richer and gain more power. A plane probibly was never flown into the pentagon and al quida probibly had nothing to do with 9\11, its not hard for somebody to forge a video\audio of a "Confession by osama" why would anybody doubt it as soon as Bush said the word terrorist and "terrorists were behind the attack" americans had no reason to doubt any of it...

 

[Coup D E'Tat]

I feel like i'm one of the few young people left who are conservative.

Don't worry, brother. There's at least two of us here.

 

[EclipseSH21]

Well you know what happens in college

You gain 15lbs and hook up more than ever thought possible??

You know what really scares me?? What if John Kerry had been elected presidentWTF
Instead of killing terrorist Kerry and Gore would of been asking them to please stop and offering the terrorist hugs

Hugs NOT Slugs___ My ASS

I had a nice rebuttal for your argument, but for the sake of keeping this thread open and exposing this video to more on DSMTuners, I've retracted my statement. Say what you wish, it's your right as an American.

And don't take me as a liberal, because I dislike all politicians equally. This example just happens to spotlight the incompetence and corruption of the right.

 

[Black95TSIawd]

you guys should watch some international tv and see whats really going on in iraq.

 

[BOOstGhost]

you guys should watch some international tv and see whats really going on in iraq.

Where'd that come from? It's war against guerilla warfare. They fight differently than we're used to. They place bombs inside dogs and in everything else. But you can't say the war in Iraq was done for nothing. They had evidence of Iraq making and using chemical warfare. Saddam was a murderer, he commited genocide even on his own people. My father was in the military and a lot of my friends are too. I would have have enlisted but I couldn't because I used to have asthma. Everyone thats gone over there had Iraqi citizens thank them. That should tell you something. If the U.S. pulled out right now everything that was done would be for nothing. Also the entire rest of the world HATES the U.S. Don't you think International TV is going to be biased Right winged TV will always be biased and so will left winged TV. If you think we went over there for nothing you're seriously mistaken.

 

[No_Skillz]

I think international TV would be way less biased than American TV since the war is primarily American involvement. The war in Iraq started over WMDs. When none were found, the battle cry was changed to links to Al Queda. When that was hard to prove, it was then changed to (and now currently is) the liberation of the Iraqi people and the spread of democracy. If the war originally was to be for the spread of democracy, do you think anyone would have gone for it?

Sure American troops have been thanked, ect, but you must know that for every "thank you" they get 10 rocks thrown at them.

Forget about Iraq for a second and lets think Al Queda... why has the spotlight been shifted from them in Afghanistan to Iraq? Where the hell is Osama?

Either way, we're getting way off topic now and talking about some heavy stuff other than this video. I think we should all just go back and agree on being open minded and watch the video for entertainment at the very least, or this thread will be closed.

 

[BOOstGhost]

I think international TV would be way less biased than American TV since the war is primarily American involvement. The war in Iraq started over WMDs. When none were found, the battle cry was changed to links to Al Queda. When that was hard to prove, it was then changed to (and now currently is) the liberation of the Iraqi people and the spread of democracy. If the war originally was to be for the spread of democracy, do you think anyone would have gone for it?

Sure American troops have been thanked, ect, but you must know that for every "thank you" they get 10 rocks thrown at them.

Forget about Iraq for a second and lets think Al Queda... why has the spotlight been shifted from them in Afghanistan to Iraq? Where the hell is Osama?

Either way, we're getting way off topic now and talking about some heavy stuff other than this video. I think we should all just go back and agree on being open minded and watch the video for entertainment at the very least, or this thread will be closed.

thats probably one of the reasons political threads are not allowed. Even if it gets locked you can still see the vid.

 

[awd4g63]

Man... just watched the whole thing... pretty intense stuff and it does raise some good questions. Just makes you wonder about the way things are run in this country.

 

[Black95TSIawd]

because they had tyranical leaders that forced themselves into power. We ELECT out own leaders. We put those people into office. I'm not going to sit here and debate with people, it's pointless. I feel like i'm one of the few young people left who are conservative.

You do remember the florida scandal right? Wasnt his brother or something the governor then?

 

[BOOstGhost]

You do remember the florida scandal right? Wasnt his brother or something the governor then?

First off, thats his brother, not the president. Thats like me saying you're not qualified for a job because your brother is a convicted felon. You act like republicans are the only ones possible of being corrupt and commiting scandals

Clinton- Impeached by the House of Representatives over allegations of perjury and obstruction of justice, but acquitted by the Senate

Edward Moore Kennedy- U. S. Senator from Massachusetts. Pleaded guilty to leaving the scene of an accident, after his car plunged off a bridge on Chappaquiddick Island killing passenger Mary Jo Kopechne.

Barney Frank- U.S. Representative from Massachusetts from 1981 to present. Admitted to having paid Stephen L. Gobie, a male prostitute, for sex and subsequently hiring Gobie as his personal assistant. Gobie used the congressman's Washington apartment for prostitution. A move to expel Frank from the House of Representatives failed and a motion to censure him failed.

DNC - The Federal Election Commission imposed $719,000 in fines against participants in the 1996 Democratic Party fundraising scandals involving contributions from China, Korea and other foreign sources. The Federal Election Commission said it decided to drop cases against contributors of more than $3 million in illegal DNC contributions because the respondents left the country or the corporations are defunct.

Sandy Berger- National Security Advisor during the Clinton Administration. Berger became the focus of a criminal investigation after removing highly classified terrorism documents and handwritten notes from the National Archives during preparations for the Sept. 11 commission hearings.

James McGreevey- New Jersey Governor . Admitted to having a ### affair. Resigned after allegations of sexual harassment, rumors of being blackmailed on top of fundraising investigations and indictments.

Jesse Jackson- Democratic candidate for President. Admitted to having an extramarital affair and fathering a illegitimate child.

Gary Condit- US Democratic Congressman from California. Condit had an affair with an intern. Condit, covered up the affair and lied to police after she went missing. No charges were ever filed against Condit. Her remains were discovered in a Washington DC park..

Charles Coles Diggs, Jr.- U.S. Representative from Michigan from 1955 to 1980. Convicted on eleven counts of mail fraud and filing false payroll forms- sentenced to three years in prison.


Do I need to go on?

here's my source http://www.boycottliberalism.com/Scandals.htm

 

[L2RTSiAWD]

This thread went political the moment it was made. Just saying shit like. "Well even if the thread gets locked everyone can still see the video."

Regardless of debate or argument this topics aren't allowed and at least some people in the thread realize it.