oil change

[91RacerX]

how many quarts of oil to fill up 1993plymouth laser awd turbo

 

[turbotemper]

4-5 quarts.
Put oil in the filter and swirl it around to lubricate the inside and lube the sealing ring.
The filter should hold about a 1/4-1/2 of a quart. (better to have oil in the filter so when you start the car it gets oil immediately, not having to draw it through the pump then into the filter to the motor).
Then put the 3full quarts plus whats left from the one you opened in then wait a few mins to fall to the pan. Check the dipstick and add as needed till full.

 

[xdxoxuxgx]

make sure to start the car and then check it again after you let it drain back down.

 

[beyondspexj]

4-5 quarts.
Put oil in the filter and swirl it around to lubricate the inside and lube the sealing ring.
The filter should hold about a 1/4-1/2 of a quart. (better to have oil in the filter so when you start the car it gets oil immediately, not having to draw it through the pump then into the filter to the motor).
Then put the 3full quarts plus whats left from the one you opened in then wait a few mins to fall to the pan. Check the dipstick and add as needed till full.

ive never heard of having to fill the oil filter before putting it on. thats brand new to me.

 

[red_devil]

ive never heard of having to fill the oil filter before putting it on. thats brand new to me.

Its not necessary as the filters really dont hold that much oil. You really only need to do this with diesel filters.

 

[T is for TURBO]

Its not necessary as the filters really dont hold that much oil. You really only need to do this with diesel filters.

Necessary? No. Wise? Yes. I do it evertime I change my oil. It also depends on what filter you run as far as how much they hold. The mobil 1 filters for our cars are TINY, however, PureONE filters are huge. I run nothing but PureONE.

 

[turbotemper]

Its not necessary as the filters really dont hold that much oil. You really only need to do this with diesel filters.

Ask any one who builds/works on motors professionally and they will say to add a little in the filter of any motor not just a diesel.
I could see why a diesel wouldnt need it as it runs, burns, & lives on oil.
I stick w/ mobile1 oil (0w-40)& filters when i have the money but i usually use fram filters, not just the basic one. It has a99% multi pass efficiency not 96% like the others. I think its tg model.

 

[bmylez]

I'm sure this isn't necessary, but I do it just for safety. My friend sold a turbo kit to a guy who didn't prime it with oil before starting and it fried the turbo wheel bearings. So when I do an oil change on my car, I take the plugs out crank over the car a little to get full oil pressure. Anyone think this is overkill? I definitely agree with putting oil in the filter, though, just as a small precaution.

 

[red_devil]

Ask any one who builds/works on motors professionally and they will say to add a little in the filter of any motor not just a diesel.
I could see why a diesel wouldnt need it as it runs, burns, & lives on oil.
I stick w/ mobile1 oil (0w-40)& filters when i have the money but i usually use fram filters, not just the basic one. It has a99% multi pass efficiency not 96% like the others. I think its tg model.

Our shop does over 50 oil changes a day, and I know workers from local dealerships and quick all change shops, and all did not prime the oil filter. The reason why you do with diesels is because they hold almost 2qts in the filter themselves. Filters on most cars are small, and the pressure the pump builds is enough to fill the filter before the engine starts. Yes it is a good idea especially if its a rebuild staring fresh but you dont really need to do it every oil change. As with your oil weight just run 10w30 or 20w60 which the motor is designed for, 0w40 is more for European cars.

 

[-TunedDSM-]

I used to work at a dealership changing oil and we only filled diesel filters as well. Many cars won't allow you to do so due the angle the filter sits at.

 

[beyondspexj]

I'm sure this isn't necessary, but I do it just for safety. My friend sold a turbo kit to a guy who didn't prime it with oil before starting and it fried the turbo wheel bearings. So when I do an oil change on my car, I take the plugs out crank over the car a little to get full oil pressure. Anyone think this is overkill? I definitely agree with putting oil in the filter, though, just as a small precaution.

now that seems to be a tad bit of overkill but atleast it gives you a piece of mind.

 

[UGOT8UP]

Our shop does over 50 oil changes a day, and I know workers from local dealerships and quick all change shops, and all did not prime the oil filter. The reason why you do with diesels is because they hold almost 2qts in the filter themselves. Filters on most cars are small, and the pressure the pump builds is enough to fill the filter before the engine starts. Yes it is a good idea especially if its a rebuild staring fresh but you dont really need to do it every oil change. As with your oil weight just run 10w30 or 20w60 which the motor is designed for, 0w40 is more for European cars.

OK, so if the oil system is fully primed before the engine starts, 3 revolution's of the crank, than why would the dummy light be on for 3-7 seconds after initial startup??? Because the oil pump will not flow that amount of volume in a dry oil system on 3 slow cranking revolution's.....Prime them filter's or you can end up like Mr. Super Lube here and have excessive engine damage over a period of time

 

[DougR]

Personal experience,
I watched a buddie change his oil in a old school wagon or some type... Anyways, He didnt listen and fill his filter. needless to say, From the very second that engine started. It started making noise..
What noise you may ask? Hardcore rocker tap. how long did it last? For the lifespan of the engine, which happened to be only 5 months. The dumb ass never fixed a VC leak and ended up running dry, Tossing a rod out the side of the block.
This engine made No noise at all, It was actually one of the quietest engines I have ever heard..
But that 45-50 seconds of running dry did the engine in...

Its your engine, your choice..

 

[PIMking]

I always do that. Every once in a long while I have to change oil or tires or some small things at the tire shop I work for and I ALWAYS prime the oil filter. Make sure you use some new oil on your finger and rub the gasket. I always use some brake cleaner and clean up the oil pan and oil filter area after I put new filter on and plug back in. I hate the little oil drips on my driveway and I'm sure alot of other people don't either.

 

[red_devil]

OK, so if the oil system is fully primed before the engine starts, 3 revolution's of the crank, than why would the dummy light be on for 3-7 seconds after initial startup??? Because the oil pump will not flow that amount of volume in a dry oil system on 3 slow cranking revolution's.....Prime them filter's or you can end up like Mr. Super Lube here and have excessive engine damage over a period of time

Then how is it that we have customers with cars with well over 200k on them and still run great. Many cars make it almost impossible to prime the filter before putting it back on, and if you can then you make a huge mess and you get customer complaints. Many new cars use element type filters which are upside down which makes it impossible to prime it. So how is it that they design them like that? Yes its a good idea but its not going to ruin the engine. If you are getting a lot of noise after start up then I would check to see if you have a good working oil pump and if the pickup tube is not blocked or bent.

 

[beyondspexj]

^ i was just going to ask the same with the filter locations on many cars.

 

[B005T3D_1]

Then how is it that we have customers with cars with well over 200k on them and still run great. Many cars make it almost impossible to prime the filter before putting it back on, and if you can then you make a huge mess and you get customer complaints. Many new cars use element type filters which are upside down which makes it impossible to prime it. So how is it that they design them like that? Yes its a good idea but its not going to ruin the engine. If you are getting a lot of noise after start up then I would check to see if you have a good working oil pump and if the pickup tube is not blocked or bent.

i agree, it is a good idea if its possible because the oil has to fill the filter before it goes to your engine and head. on the ones that you can, i would defanitely, you never get the oil out of every orface in the engine and head, so there is still some in there, but without priming the filter, the engine basically runs with low pressure for a couple of seconds until the filter is full. this will not cause excessive damage to the engine, but it is always better to prime the filter if possible