ECMlink DSMLink for 1G?

[kpt4321]

There's a simple answer to this problem all of you seem to be having. If you don't have personal experience about something, or you're not 100% sure about what you're going to say, then don't say anything at all. There are plenty of guys who actually DO know what they are talking about who can covers those bases.

This "hack" basicially sets up a 2g ECU to run the motor as though it was a 2g motor. Since the vast majority of the sensor are the same on our cars, even with the different generations, this is fairly easy to do. You just need the couple of things that are 2g specific, as already mentioned by Hal, such as the 2g airflow meter.


...Kyle T.
93 TSi AWD "TURBO4"
14b - 12.8 @ 108

 

[HighPSI TSi Guy]

Originally posted by Hal


If you understood how DSMLink works, you would understand why you don't NEED anything but 1x16.

Hal

oh i fully understand WHY it only "needs" 1X16.. still though, more WOULD be better..

 

[Zerocygnal]

Originally posted by Hal


Before you tax what few brain cells you have, think about this:

Do you know what DSMLink is?

Obviously not. So, before you spread your "knowledge" any more, please visit www.dsmlink.com and educate yourself on the subject at hand.

I wouldn't want you to spend any time digging up information that isn't applicable to the topic at hand.

Hal

I bet this was the most important post of your day. If you spent half as much time on here bitching and moaning, and more time on your "hackware" I bet you would actually get something done. It's not a secret...you don't have to insult people to look cool or make up for your lack in self-confidence. Back on topic please...

 

[kpt4321]

Originally posted by HighPSI TSi Guy


oh i fully understand WHY it only "needs" 1X16.. still though, more WOULD be better..

This isn't necessarily the case. Most of the people I know with DSMLink do the vast majority of their adjustments with the the global sliders anyway, so the 16 part grid is more than enough for fine tuning. More is not always better!

Originally posted by Zerocygnal

I bet this was the most important post of your day. If you spent half as much time on here bitching and moaning, and more time on your "hackware" I bet you would actually get something done. It's not a secret...you don't have to insult people to look cool or make up for your lack in self-confidence. Back on topic please...

I didn't want to touch on this, because it has the appearance of sucking up to Hal, but oh well. You need to be careful who you insult. Hal has done more with DSM's then you ever will accomplish, and he is the creator of at least one major "thing." Watch out who you make fun of like you're all high and mighty.

Hal: For God's sake, just go back to the "cave" () from whence you came. It's a better place there, if you stay here for too long, you might end up shooting yourself.


....Kyle T.
93 TSi AWD "TURBO4"
14b - 12.8 @ 108

 

[HighPSI TSi Guy]

Originally posted by kpt4321



This isn't necessarily the case. Most of the people I know with DSMLink do the vast majority of their adjustments with the the global sliders anyway, so the 16 part grid is more than enough for fine tuning. More is not always better!




I didn't want to touch on this, because it has the appearance of sucking up to Hal, but oh well. You need to be careful who you insult. Hal has done more with DSM's then you ever will accomplish, and he is the creator of at least one major "thing." Watch out who you make fun of like you're all high and mighty.

Hal: For God's sake, just go back to the "cave"() from whence you came. It's a better place there, if you stay here for too long, you might end up shooting yourself.


....Kyle T.
93 TSi AWD "TURBO4"
14b - 12.8 @ 108

i agree.... i stay out of most threads nowadays unless they are involving people i know or people who i know know their stuff.. i couldn't beleive when i read that guy's post trying to insult hal... had to read it again

-Dave

 

[MaineDSM]

:laugh: <---Me laughing as I watch Hal let off some steam.

This is great. Hal must just be having a bad day, because he has answered some truly stupid questions of mine without a ounce of sarcasm.

To the person ragging on Hal: Stop. It's a lost cause, he is too well respected around here. He is allowed to give numbnuts like you a hard time.

However, the person refering to the "slow" 1G sensors may be talking about the fact that 2G ECUs get misfire codes sometimes when hooked up to the 1G CAS. This has been attributed to the poorer resolution of the 1G crank signal vs. the 2G crank signal. This code can be disabled in DSMLink, so it is pretty much a non-issue.

As for the knock issue, it *is* true that no other logger but DSMLink can read knock counts on a 2G. Any 1G logger can do it. This isn't a problem with the swap Hal has done, because he simply put in a 2G knock sensor. Simple.

If you spent half as much time on here bitching and moaning, and more time on your "hackware" I bet you would actually get something done.

Priceless. Hal often posts one sentence about something he has spent days on, that nobody else has done. Your out there, buddy.

 

[RipperXX]

MaineDSM

actuly yea that was what i was talking about (the misfireing code) (just didn't realy remeber for sure what caused the CEL so i figured i wouldn't prove my self stupid and guess at it :/ )

 

[RipperXX]

ok i just want to know if he has done it yet and if it can be done by us without to much money or time... becouse i like the idea of tuneing with one...or at least from what i hear about them there way better than any AFC...

 

[Hal]

Read this:

Install guide

Then decide.

Hal

 

[sunflashx]

Score! My idea got added to the good idea section of the Install Guide.

 

[DlandryTSI]

I can't wait to actually drive this car down the strip. The 1g Hal is refering to is mine. The old setup was a TMO-stage 2 ecu, S-AFC and an HKS VPC. All that has been removed and replaced with a DSMlink and MAFT/MAF. Hopefully it will see the track once again next month

PS: Now i gotta throw away my 1g tuning stuff and start learning the 2g tuning hehe.

--Dave

 

[RipperXX]

hmm considering i just got my car 3 months back and im not even sure how to get back to the ECU i think i might pay for someone to do this...


BTW anyone got any pictures????

 

[HighPSI TSi Guy]

Originally posted by DlandryTSI
I can't wait to actually drive this car down the strip. The 1g Hal is refering to is mine. The old setup was a TMO-stage 2 ecu, S-AFC and an HKS VPC. All that has been removed and replaced with a DSMlink and MAFT/MAF. Hopefully it will see the track once again next month

PS: Now i gotta throw away my 1g tuning stuff and start learning the 2g tuning hehe.

--Dave

why ditch the VPC for a MAFT? the VPC outflows the MAFT and delivers a karmen signal just like the MAFT and therefore COULD be used with a DSMlink (as far as i know at least?)

 

[Hal]

The VPC fuel metering tables are dependent on the volumetric efficency of the 4g63 engine.

As that changes, it effects the tuning setup.

The DSMLink with the MAF/MAFT offers better drivability.

Hal

 

[sunflashx]

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Heatshrink is just sitting on the wires. I slid every other one down onto the post to keep anything from shorting, but none have been shrunken yet. They all won't fit side by side over the posts until the first half have been shrunken.

UPS is still holding my DSMLink EPROM hostage, but hopefully by end of the week I'll get to do some basic tests. Car won't be ready to drive for another week still while I wait on other parts.

 

[Hal]

Make sure you check the guide web page. It was updated on 5/31/2003 for some minor changes.

Also, make sure you take note that BOTH 1g MPI relay pins are connected to a SINGLE 2g ecu pin.

Hal

 

[sunflashx]

Originally posted by Hal
Make sure you check the guide web page. It was updated on 5/31/2003 for some minor changes.

Also, make sure you take note that BOTH 1g MPI relay pins are connected to a SINGLE 2g ecu pin.

Hal

As of your most recent changes I pulled pin #21 which was no longer necessary and moved it to pin #41 since they were both destined for 1g pin #106. Was easier than resoldering anything.

I assume you're refering to this split for the MPI/MFI connection?

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Anything else to look out for? I've double checked all the pins for continuity with my Fluke multimeter, but before I plug it in I plan to do a final triple check.

 

[92TALONAWD]

Hi, The link to the install guide is not working. I have been thinking of doing this for a while, and I now have a chance to get an ecu with a link in it from a good friend, going to a stand alone, for very cheap. If anybody has a good link or a saved copy I would love the help.

Thanks Matt

 

[sunflashx]

I guess I did it right, the car has been running (flawlessly) for 5 days now.

 

[BOBS90TURBO]

I had a guy show me his DSMlink the other day and it was by far the one I want and then I find out they do not sell a 1g unit,so to hear that this hal has one that works on a 1g with a few changes is so sweet, please let us know what to do and Thanks a Bunch man....

 

[kpt4321]

WTF?

Read the goddamned thread, it tells you what to do.

 

[MaineDSM]

Originally posted by kpt4321
WTF?

Read the goddamned thread, it tells you what to do.

. If your threshold for stupidity is this low, these DSM boards must really drive you crazy these days, with all the ricer trash infesting them. :laugh:

 

[kpt4321]

I mean, seriously. There's a whole thread about how to install DSMLink in a 1g, and this guy is like "how do you install DSMLink in a 1g?"

<bangs head>

 

[brads]

Hi, I just got on this board, and like the sound of DSMLink, but I have a 1G. My question is, how do you install DSMLink in a 1G?

Thanks,
Brad

 

[HighPSI TSi Guy]

Originally posted by kpt4321
WTF?

Read the goddamned thread, it tells you what to do.

couldn't have said it better