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what if you took out your front tire axles will that make your awds become rear wheel drive and make the front tires seem as if they were slipping all the time and put all the power in the back? because ive heard of a awd/ rwd conversion before ( like the red evo in fast and furious3, it maybe a stupid question that doesnt pertain anything to me but just curious ) and of course who would want to get rid of their awd unless there drifting.
 
... Oh... My... God..

I never NEVER would have expected a "tech" post about drifting... I feel like comitting ideocide (new word, use it sparingly)... killing all of those who share the same ideas on drifiting.

Drifting is to racing, as guy/guy figure skating is to downhill skiing.

I wish defiant was here...
 
ok here is a tip if you want to drift AWD. Its called Oversteering, what that retard that wrote this article is talking about is probably understeer. It is RETARDED to try to drift an AWD car by understeering it. Just by the principles of what drifting is and how AWD works and such.
 
If you want to drift go buy a 200/240 or some other RWD car, tweak the suspension out so bad it cant hold a corner for crap then have fun.

If you want to do crazy drag launches, run autox, or street courses then stick to AWD.
 
RotaryAE86 said:
MOST IMPORTANTLY: BE SAFE!!! Don’t practice where you may run into something or someone or even where road surfaces are beyond an accepted level of safety. Don’t try and take on more than you feel confident with – drifting may be to-the-limit extreme, but that does not mean being stupid.
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Drifting on public roads is considered street racing.
 
Ok I know i have a GST written as my profile car, but i also have a 97 GSX that i really want to turn into a drifting DSM. Im in progress now of putting in a six bolt engine and I am going to try to have it put around 600hp at the crank. I have been wondering though about converting the all wheel drive into a plain rear wheel drive. I know that RNR has a kit that takes the front wheel drive out of the evo, but I want to know if there is one anywhere for the GSX. If anyone has any good ideas for the car or know of any front wheel drive eliminator kits please let me know. thanks:thumb:
John_GST
 
Well, I'm thinking of it also, but I don't really think I'll do it. My thought was: Get a tranny with a locked/welded diff in it, and just use some old front axels, and make cups out of them. Then you have a RWD DSM. The only thing would be, broken rear axels at least, rear diff, driveshaft, and the transfer case would be a weekly thing to change. Unless, you drop some serious coin, and keep your power under 400, is to get a bigger axels carbon driveshaft, and upgraded T-case. So, don't do it. It will be cheaper to get a 240 SX rather than some expensive parts such as axels, driveshaft, and a T-case...
 
stockfornow said:
Well, I'm thinking of it also, but I don't really think I'll do it. My thought was: Get a tranny with a locked/welded diff in it, and just use some old front axels, and make cups out of them. Then you have a RWD DSM. The only thing would be, broken rear axels at least, rear diff, driveshaft, and the transfer case would be a weekly thing to change. Unless, you drop some serious coin, and keep your power under 400, is to get a bigger axels carbon driveshaft, and upgraded T-case. So, don't do it. It will be cheaper to get a 240 SX rather than some expensive parts such as axels, driveshaft, and a T-case...
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Thats all true it is gonna be an expensive and an extensive process, Im going to look into it and see what some of the shops say before i make a final decision. thanks for the input bro.
 
Well I talked to Jarrod @ buschar racing and with what he told me it doesn't seem like i am going to do this. fabrication and expense is really high. but if i do decide to pull it off i will update
 
Making a drift Eclipse is possible, yes. It'll cost a buttload of money and still perform somewhat subpar as it's still essentially riding in an chassis designed primarily around FWD. Take a fraction of the money if you want to hop on the drift fad wagon, and buy a stock FR vehicle... you'll save time and effort, and likely get a car that will perform better, given that most FRs were designed with that kind of drivetrain in mind, rather than retrofitted and forced to work.

If you want to do it just to be different... make sure there isn't something better you could be putting the money into, like donating to a charity, or investing the money. Otherwise it's just tossing money to try to chase down a 'wouldn't it be neat'.
 
Has anyone actually done this here? :) Okay, I wasn't sure - I didn't think so. The car on eagletalon.net is mine.

The blue 1G RWD that people are referring to was created by Gary Reese for David Buschur back in the late 1990's. Dave Buschur sold it to Jesus Rivera, who cleaned it up, but then sold it to Bruce Kwartler. It's now owned by Josh Mowery of Mowery Racing. How anyone hasn't seen that car, or Buschur's 2G RWD Talon and considers themselves "in the scene" is a complete mystery to me. In addition to those two cars, Slowboy Racing put together a RWD Eclipse, but it's only seen the track a few times that I know of. Right now, there are quite a few people working on RWD project DSM's.

You could actually easily convert your GSX into a RWD application for drifting using a setup like StockForNow described - but you would be lacking in the reliability department because you'd be trying to put all 600 horsepower that you're talking about making through the back tires. This will break drivetrain components. This setup would be very similar to the conversion kit that company made for the EVO.

As far as performing "subpar" - he's talking about making a Drift Car - isn't that all about show and points and stuff? Drifting is modest in it's requirements as it's not actually a competition involving performance. So, what part of it would be subpar?
 
MY friend got a viscous coupler eliminator and put dummy axles in the back or something and made his rwd and it was cheap and not hard to do. 600 hp will be all over the place at the time his was around 350 rwhp and he was all over the road when he got on it. It's not as hard as people are making it sound. My friend might be converting back to rwd to play around with drifting. I'm pretty sure it only takes him an hour to switch from awd to rwd. This project could be alot more difficult and expensive if you do it the other ways suggested.If you're still interested I could find out some more from him.
 
.. Just get A LOT of HP, and have an AWD drift machine.. much cooler then rwd ;)

serious note: A rwd dsm drift car would be pretty cool.. show the world these cars can do any thing ;)
 
Ofcourse you guys are talking about show drifting and not race drifting. Because you can drift an AWD car, its actually done somewhat frequently in real racing. VERY dangerous because to make an AWD drift requires a lot of speed and power. Because of this I can not suggest this being a good idea.

But good luck and there are like 4-5 RWD talons/eclipses I have seen or heard of. Actually Mowery Racing is selling the car and the whole thing including sponsorships for 45k if you want to contact him. This includes full trailer.
 
phydiux said:
Has anyone actually done this here? :) Okay, I wasn't sure - I didn't think so. The car on eagletalon.net is mine.

The blue 1G RWD that people are referring to was created by Gary Reese for David Buschur back in the late 1990's. Dave Buschur sold it to Jesus Rivera, who cleaned it up, but then sold it to Bruce Kwartler. It's now owned by Josh Mowery of Mowery Racing. How anyone hasn't seen that car, or Buschur's 2G RWD Talon and considers themselves "in the scene" is a complete mystery to me. In addition to those two cars, Slowboy Racing put together a RWD Eclipse, but it's only seen the track a few times that I know of. Right now, there are quite a few people working on RWD project DSM's.

You could actually easily convert your GSX into a RWD application for drifting using a setup like StockForNow described - but you would be lacking in the reliability department because you'd be trying to put all 600 horsepower that you're talking about making through the back tires. This will break drivetrain components. This setup would be very similar to the conversion kit that company made for the EVO.

As far as performing "subpar" - he's talking about making a Drift Car - isn't that all about show and points and stuff? Drifting is modest in it's requirements as it's not actually a competition involving performance. So, what part of it would be subpar?
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I checked out your car when the link was posted and it really looked like it took alot of effort. so if I went with StockForNow's idea and just put my H.P. to around 375 how do you think that would work? let me know what you would think about that please.
 
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