car stalls while clutch engaged or not in gear

[95 eclipse gs]

i have a 95 eclipse gs 2.0 non turbo all stock. now when driving when i hit the clutch to hold it or just to pop out of gear to get ready to turn or stop the car will stall out either rpms drop to a stall or drop to 200 or so back to 1200 then 1500 to 1100 ect then stall but mostly just drop. ok so far i have replaced with brand new parts the air temp sensor eng coolant temp and resit for that. the crankshaft positioning/angle sensor idle air control new thermastat. now when i changed the idle control it did fix the idle from bouncing some when in neutr but didnt fix the cut off prob. i wanna say it has something to do with the map sensor since the idle sensor did fix it some. any sugs or things i could try ohh and i did have the catalytic convertor cut off and straight piped for my exhaust but it was doing this before then. done searched many forums but people dont like to come back and post if they fixed the prob. thanks in advance

 

[ChiTownHussla]

Check to make sure your flywheel isnt rubbing on engine block. thats the problem I face right now. just throwing it out there

 

[dalesocks]

i have a 95 eclipse gs 2.0 non turbo all stock. now when driving when i hit the clutch to hold it or just to pop out of gear to get ready to turn or stop the car will stall out either rpms drop to a stall or drop to 200 or so back to 1200 then 1500 to 1100 ect then stall but mostly just drop. ok so far i have replaced with brand new parts the air temp sensor eng coolant temp and resit for that. the crankshaft positioning/angle sensor idle air control new thermastat. now when i changed the idle control it did fix the idle from bouncing some when in neutr but didnt fix the cut off prob. i wanna say it has something to do with the map sensor since the idle sensor did fix it some. any sugs or things i could try ohh and i did have the catalytic convertor cut off and straight piped for my exhaust but it was doing this before then. done searched many forums but people dont like to come back and post if they fixed the prob. thanks in advance

Could be the map I say, is the iac valve new?

 

[95 eclipse gs]

The valve is new map is original 130000 miles on the car and im getting a new speedometer gear put in jan since no speed speed sensor new so ill have them check that out

 

[Rob88]

no CEL?

 

[Morris]

Crankwalk. Every time you press in the clutch it is pushing the crank into the block causing it to stall. Every time you take a turn, especially hard turns the crank is moving and rubbing the inside of the block causing it to stall. When you take a hard left turn press in the clutch and if it feels light as a feather you'll know for sure. Sucks, but that sounds like what you got.

You are going to need to do a rebuild. Sorry =/

Take it to a shop and have them check the cranks movement, you can try and avoid thinking you have crankwalk and try a million other thing, I've been there, but that will be a waste of money, go have the crank movement checked first.

 

[doubleclutch]

Crankwalk. Every time you press in the clutch it is pushing the crank into the block causing it to stall. Every time you take a turn, especially hard turns the crank is moving and rubbing the inside of the block causing it to stall. When you take a hard left turn press in the clutch and if it feels light as a feather you'll know for sure. Sucks, but that sounds like what you got.

You are going to need to do a rebuild. Sorry =/

Take it to a shop and have them check the cranks movement, you can try and avoid thinking you have crankwalk and try a million other thing, I've been there, but that will be a waste of money, go have the crank movement checked first.

Just read this in another thread...I afraid he may be right....

 

[95 eclipse gs]

Will have my engine Guy check it soon but it only does it every once and awhile

Any other ideas beside s crank walk because there are many forums with that and no solutions and want to try other things before I bring it to the shop for a new clutch/pressure plate release is at the floor and possible tran rebuild just because they already be in there and speed gear do it all at once

 

[Morris]

Will have my engine Guy check it soon but it only does it every once and awhile

Any other ideas beside s crank walk because there are many forums with that and no solutions and want to try other things before I bring it to the shop for a new clutch/pressure plate release is at the floor and possible tran rebuild just because they already be in there and speed gear do it all at once

I tried convincing myself too that it wasn't crankwalk, i messed with the idle and got it so it wouldnt die and lots of other stuff. It was all bandades, since I ignored it I ended up messing up everything so that I couldn't even reuse anything. And I had a 6-bolt!! Your 7-bolt is FAR FAR more likely to get crankwalk than a 6bolt. And crankwalk has nothing to do with your clutch or pressure plate, you need to search around. Crankwalk is when your crank actually moves back and forth, and the pressure from you pressing in the clutch is always pushing on the crank, since you probably have crankwalk your crank is moving from this pressure causing it to rub and you car stalling out. You are gonna wish it was only your clutch and pressure plate sorry to say =/

So do yourself favor, have the crank checked for back and forth movement, that is your first step there are no other ideas before that, and you should do it asap, you are soooo going to regret it if you continue to drive it around. You most likely are going to need a rebuild.

Oh and FYI the reason you aren't finding solutions on other forums to crankwalk is because its a new rebuild, which many people wont do, so many people give up and sell their cars. There is no "fix" there's just a new start.

 

[ericemery]

A 95 GS is a 420A motor.

While any motor can crank walk, I haven't seen many 420a's do it... actually, I have never seen a 420a eclipse or neon crank walk.

 

[95 eclipse gs]

would a rebuild kit fix this prob from napa like my trans mission guy was going to do it the kit was around 300 sincros and what not plus the speed drive gear ect.. all and all around 800 bucks but my release point being at the floor and floor i mean carpet wear and my master adjusted all the way out can be because of crank walk

 

[Morris]

A 95 GS is a 420A motor.

While any motor can crank walk, I haven't seen many 420a's do it... actually, I have never seen a 420a eclipse or neon crank walk.

It can very well still crank walk. Pressing in the clutch and the car dieing, and taking turns and the car dieing point toward that crank moving. Check the crank movement.

 

[95 eclipse gs]

only does it on straights never on turns

 

[Morris]

I miss read your post, thought it said when you turned. Does it do it when you are just sitting there idling?

 

[kronus]

I highly doubt this is crankwalk. Here's a test: Does your car automatically die when you turn it on? The reason I ask is because it only does it when the motor is left to idle, or drop to idle. When you put the clutch in, or when you leave it in neutral and coast.

Have you checked the codes on the car? That's a good place to start. Checked all the 'duh' stuff? - clean air filter, vacuum leaks, etc. Compression on the motor? There are lots of little checks you can do to help narrow down the possibilities of your problem.

 

[95 eclipse gs]

here is a update the car stalled at wendys, i know right white boy cant get a burger. but yes only when going to a idle sometimes. but cranking no. but we wasnt getting power to my ignition coil so we checked the repair manual chiltons i believe and followed the cercuit egr good blah good blah good ignition coil nope fuel pump relay good shut off relay good, guy said it was my ecu which is from a junkyard cause early in the winter cold start would not crank but turns out it was the shut off relay so im going to get my original computer back from my garage guy and put it back in hope that works

 

[95 eclipse gs]

Ok put my old computer in still the same but I do hear the fuel pump priming but there is not power going to my coil pack

well good news i checked the crank angle sensor on the block when to use a basic test light tested one of the leads guess i grounded it heard something engage everytime i touched it i put the plug in and locked it, dont remember unlocking it, hhmmmm cranked up idle rough for a second then went to normal not once did it try to cut off while pulling out of gear dropped to 1100rpms then down to 1000 to 900 high yes cuase i painted my guages so it might be off a lil, guess its fixed ordered some new manafold gaskits and pvc valve so going to clean the rest of the throttle and guess im done for a min i hope then again its a dsm, but soo fun to drive , thanks for the help guys

 

[That1Talon]

i have a 95 eclipse gs 2.0 non turbo all stock. now when driving when i hit the clutch to hold it or just to pop out of gear to get ready to turn or stop the car will stall out either rpms drop to a stall or drop to 200 or so back to 1200 then 1500 to 1100 ect then stall but mostly just drop. ok so far i have replaced with brand new parts the air temp sensor eng coolant temp and resit for that. the crankshaft positioning/angle sensor idle air control new thermastat. now when i changed the idle control it did fix the idle from bouncing some when in neutr but didnt fix the cut off prob. i wanna say it has something to do with the map sensor since the idle sensor did fix it some. any sugs or things i could try ohh and i did have the catalytic convertor cut off and straight piped for my exhaust but it was doing this before then. done searched many forums but people dont like to come back and post if they fixed the prob. thanks in advance

95 gs you have the 420a motor right? I didn't know you could get crankwalk in a 420a my .02 correct me if I'm wrong

 

[98mitsubishigst]

God, i hate this forum sometimes for the stupidity that some member show, Kid, you have 30 posts and your telling someone on here they have crank walk .. FIrst off, this word should be banned. and 2nd HE HAS a 420A!!!!!!

 

[That1Talon]

Read double clutch and morris they said crankwalk i have a 420a and never heard of crankwalk on one thats why i asked. I also said correct me if I'm wrong

 

[just-build-it]

God, i hate this forum sometimes for the stupidity that some member show, Kid, you have 30 posts and your telling someone on here they have crank walk .. FIrst off, this word should be banned. and 2nd HE HAS a 420A!!!!!!

double on that crank walk is a term that is highly over used. IT IS RARE!! It doesnt happen to every damn dsm engine and it most definitely doesnt happen to a 420a!!

Does the car stall if u use the clutch to first take of?? Does it happen every time u engage the clutch?? How much time elapses from time of clutch engaged to car stalling??

 

[95 eclipse gs]

i never said it was crank walk i read up on this site and the 420a doesnt get crank walk, scared me at first but people just jump and say that without reading. i might have said can it be crank walk never said it was so far it points to my position sensor which i think came unplugged so far running great just kinda of laggy from a cold start

 

[964G63GSX]

Don't mean to thread jack but my 96 GSX also stalls. Ok so I bought the car about 3weeks ago and the exhaust manifold was broken so we replaced it, after replacing it we took it for a test drive and when I would step on it and shift to the next gear sometimes the car would turn off while running, even while coming to a stop and I put the clutch in to put it in neutral the car would also turn off, when my brother drives it the car only turns off while making a left turn, but when my friend drives it either normal or spirited driving the car doesn't turn off with him. Before we replaced the exhaust manifold gasket the car never turned off, but the clutch is pretty soft even after we bleeded the clutch. Does anybody know whats causing it to turn off? I'll really appreciate any feedback, thanks.