Buying a 2g Eclipse this weekend, upgrade path

[Disturbance]

I'm going to pick up a 98 2g Eclipse GST this weekend. It is bone stock with 180 thousand miles. I have done tons of research on DSMs and spent countless hours compiling an upgrade path list. Im going to be shooting for around 400 hp and just wanted to post up my list of upgrades and get everyones opinion on these parts.

First of all the motor rebuild:
ARP head studs
Cometic head gasket
Topline complete gasket kit
Balance shaft eliminator kit
4G63 timing belt
Balancer tensioner pulley
Crank shaft timing trigger plate
Timing belt idler pulley
Timing belt tensioner adjuster
Turbo to manifold gasket
Manley forged pistons 8.5:1
Manley H beam steel rods
ACL tri metal rod and main bearing
Manley race series forged crankshaft 88mm
This will be my first motor rebuild, I built this list up reading tons of posts on this site. Is there anything anyone thinks i do or dont need or opinions on parts please share with me.

Upgrades after the motor rebuild:
Injen intake
Fuel pressure, air fuel ratio, boost, EGT gauges
Greddy type R BOV recirrculated
Turbo smart manual boost control
DN performance tubular header
Walbro 255 fuel pump
Import Evolution IEFPRSS fuel regulator kit
Evo III 16g turbo
Evo III o2 housing
2g turbo install kit with SS oil lines
ACT 2600 clutch
Apexi afc II neo fuel managment
Precision turbo 880cc injectors
Extreme race FMIC
ACT xact flywheel
RRE race down pipe w/ cat
Apexi n1 cat back
AEM high flow fuel rail
DSMlink
Again, anything i do or dont need or what would be better please share with me.
Thank you for any help that anyone can give me.

 

[JusMX141]

On a car with 180k you don't automatically assume rings....those valve seals are probably as hard as bricks not to mention the possibility of the turbo causing a little of the smoke you're seeing.

The rings would actually be the LAST thing I'd suspect to be the cause of the smoke.

 

[Disturbance]

On a car with 180k you don't automatically assume rings....those valve seals are probably as hard as bricks not to mention the possibility of the turbo causing a little of the smoke you're seeing.

The rings would actually be the LAST thing I'd suspect to be the cause of the smoke.

yeah i didnt think of the valves or the turbo, i will take the head off and check them out when i get the car, never owned a turbo charged car before either haha

 

[M4Dboost]

I couldn't see an old lady running that car over 3500rpms, out of the two dsms I've owned, one needed valve seals after I was told it was my rings by my Honda buddies (all thier cars see is red line resulting in their blue exhaust smoke) and my second dsm had a bad seal in the turbo, it caused alot of smoke but only needed a quart every three weeks or so with me DD'n it.

Good luck with your dsm, probably one of the most helpful communities based around cars with alot of great info. oh and don't forget your new best frannnh, pick up a Haines manual!

 

[Disturbance]

I couldn't see an old lady running that car over 3500rpms, out of the two dsms I've owned, one needed valve seals after I was told it was my rings by my Honda buddies (all thier cars see is red line resulting in their blue exhaust smoke) and my second dsm had a bad seal in the turbo, it caused alot of smoke but only needed a quart every three weeks or so with me DD'n it.

Good luck with your dsm, probably one of the most helpful communities based around cars with alot of great info. oh and don't forget your new best frannnh, pick up a Haines manual!

Yeah I will have to tear it down and inspect it. Yeah this is a great site, learned so much about these cars all from this site. I already have the Haines manual and have spent quite awhile looking through it and I don't even have the car yet haha

 

[danielbo91]

Also make sure you take it to a machine shop that works on dsm especially 4g63t- make sure when you do all the rebuild you check everything to spec.

 

[razon35]

thumbs up on the upgrade becuase 180xxx is a bit high

 

[Disturbance]

Yeah I have 3 real nice torque wrenches and always use torque spec on everything. I'm gonna just rebuild the motor now for future upgrades cause I'm positive I will want more power eventually

 

[boostjnkee]

Ditch the afc, do all the tuning with dsmlink. Seems like your more focused on motor than boost parts, however you dont need to do all that to make 400hp. Stock 6bolt with the usual maintenance done(eliminate balance shafts, arp headstuds, oem multi-layer metal headgasket, etc) I also recommend a greddy or gates blue timing belt. And im not a huge fan of the 16g's, i don't see you making 400 on on easily. I'd look into an hx35, they're pretty cheap and you can get them dsm flanged, or t3. And you can make good power with those. Just my 2 pennies, good luck with the build man!

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[ed1380]

+1 what he said, except no need to shell out big money for OEM headgasket. Just get a felpro composite. It's one of the 2nd favorite headgaskets here.

 

[Disturbance]

Yeah I have used felpro before, good product. Quick question, with 880cc injectors, 255 Walbro pump, 93 octane on a rebuilt motor how much lbs of boost should I run through the Evo 16g turbo safely making good power?

 

[91stocker]

Yeah I have used felpro before, good product. Quick question, with 880cc injectors, 255 Walbro pump, 93 octane on a rebuilt motor how much lbs of boost should I run through the Evo 16g turbo safely making good power?

Keep adding boost untill you either, knock, pull timing, run out of fuel, or stop showing gains.

 

[Disturbance]

ok sounds good, thank you. im gonna be getting boost, fuel pressure, oil pressure, oil temp, voltage, and the mtxl wideband gauges cause i have a friend that is gonna sell me some for cheap and i was just wondering when i get them all hooked up, with my upgrades what is normal readings on fuel pressure, wideband AFR, oil pressure, voltage, and oil temp? want to make sure that when i start the car up i know the exact numbers to look for on my gauges so no damage is caused.

 

[Disturbance]

and coolant temp. Anyone with that info would help a lot, thank you

 

[BIGBLAZE79]

my main thing is i want a ecu that can hook up, run dsmlink and keep the check engine light off so i can still pass emissions and everything.

I live in AZ and have had the car for 11yrs so I am very familiar with passing emissions. DSM link won't grant you an automatic pass here. If you reset the computer it clears out all the emissions tests stored on the computer and you will fail for too many unkown variables (been there done that). There is emissions things the computer checks/tests for while you are driving the car. Things like Front O2, Rear O2, EGR, Catalitic converter i'm unsure of the rest cause I'm at work trying to remember off the top of my head. You have to put the stock emissions stuff back on, clear the computer and then drive it around until it runs the tests and passes all but two of them. You are allowed to have two of them be incomplete and they will still pass you. I printed out the drive cycles you need to perform for each test to run and it usually takes two days of driving my car around till I can get enough of them to pass to run it through emissions.

 

[Disturbance]

I live in AZ and have had the car for 11yrs so I am very familiar with passing emissions. DSM link won't grant you an automatic pass here. If you reset the computer it clears out all the emissions tests stored on the computer and you will fail for too many unkown variables (been there done that). There is emissions things the computer checks/tests for while you are driving the car. Things like Front O2, Rear O2, EGR, Catalitic converter i'm unsure of the rest cause I'm at work trying to remember off the top of my head. You have to put the stock emissions stuff back on, clear the computer and then drive it around until it runs the tests and passes all but two of them. You are allowed to have two of them be incomplete and they will still pass you. I printed out the drive cycles you need to perform for each test to run and it usually takes two days of driving my car around till I can get enough of them to pass to run it through emissions.

good info to know i definetly cant be failing emissions. So as long as i keep all the orginal sensors in and drive the car around for awhile before taking emissions it will pass?

 

[syndr0me]

wrong thread **

 

[BIGBLAZE79]

Yea it should pass. If you have dsmlink you can look at the OBDII tests in the computer and it will show you wich ones are passing and incomplete. So I keep driving with the laptop plugged in and as soon as I get enough of them to change to pass I go straight down to the emissions place.

 

[ed1380]

Too bad you don't have a 95 then you can legally use ecuflash to force pass emissions

Pm me for details

 

[Boostinsideways]

There is literally no point in a 95. Its not required to be obd-II compliant.

 

[Disturbance]

Yea it should pass. If you have dsmlink you can look at the OBDII tests in the computer and it will show you wich ones are passing and incomplete. So I keep driving with the laptop plugged in and as soon as I get enough of them to change to pass I go straight down to the emissions place.

ok cool, thank you for the info! good to know before i head down there

 

[Tiki2777]

Uhh when's this stuff going down? Build Journal like a now!