bigger wheel in TD06 housing.

[CPHunter]

Short story : this guy flagged me down while at the mall the other day, he turned out to be a old DSMer (now 45). he told me he had parts laying around and if i wanted them there mine. got some cool stuff.

Here's my question This guy gave me the cover below. i entered the numbers online. it comes back as a TD06 cover. he tells me about there old school tricks. 16g wheel in 14b housing, and so on. well before he got rid of his car he was working on this project. He took a 14b apart and put this cover on it and its perfect. what he wanted to do was use the Cover ,Boring it out, and add a bigger wheel. like a 20g wheel, and using a 7cm exhaust side. what i want to do is see whats the biggest wheel i can put in the housing, using the stock TD05 housing with TD06 cover. he said before they didn't have alot of options. he thinks now there must be more. So is there a bigger wheel other then a 20g that we can fit in here to make a sleeper turbo. any help? sorry if its confusing. i've never thought of sleeper turbos. especially with cali emissions. i need all the sleeperness i can take

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[DSMTalonTsiAwd]

Another term for this kind of a turbo is a Bastard Turbo. Forced Performance actually sells one. But it would be cheaper to make one yourself, since you already have a few parts.
Forced Performance Turbochargers: DSM FP Sleeper 16G Turbocharger

*edit* you can PM jusmx141 and ask him what would be the biggest and best combo for this.

 

[Steve93Talon]

Another term for this kind of a turbo is a Bastard Turbo.

Technically, it would be a "Frankenstein", the Bastard/sleeper turbos use the stock appearing TD05H comp. housing.

You could stuff a 20g wheel into that housing, which would be the biggest Mitsu wheel. You could also use a Garrett 50 trim, which is what the FP Green uses. The only differences would be the Green uses a version of the TD06 housing with a 3" inlet, and it uses a TD06H turbine wheel. The FP Red also uses an MHI TD06 comp. housing, but I don't know if that wheel would fit with the 2.4" inlet version housing.

There are also newer Garrett/Mitsu hybrids now, like FP's billet HTA wheels, and Blouch also sells some bolt-on turbos with Garrett GT comp. wheels. FP offers essentially a billet 20g wheel option for the WRX bolt-on turbos, which use the same TD05H CHRA as DSMs. They also have an HTA Green, which uses the HTA3076R wheel in a Mitsu CHRA and housings. Either one of these would make a great spooling turbo, and should be pretty cost effective if you already have the core CHRA and housings.

Forced Performance Turbochargers: FP 68HTA Turbo for the Subaru STi/WRX

Forced Performance Turbochargers: FP GREEN HTA Turbocharger

If you're looking to stay as low buck as possible, you could have a shop like FP or Blouch stick a standard EVO3 16g comp. wheel in it and rebuild it. The larger comp. housing should allow for a little more flow over the TD05H housing. As far as making it a sleeper, that housing is a dead give-away that it's a larger than stock turbo. If you want sleeper, get an EVO3 16g and call it a day.

 

[e85_4g63]

If your sticking with the "G" series wheels (16g, 18g, etc.) then the biggest wheel that'll fit in there is a td06 20g compressor wheel. If your interested in doing some machine work, then I'd look into a Garrett GT3076r compressor wheel. Don't ask why, a little birdie told me a secret about that wheel....

*edit* ^ damn that bird is telling everyone what FP uses in there "green"... I'm not leaving fed out for him anymore!

 

[CPHunter]

thanks guys. you guys give a lot of great information.

If you're looking to stay as low buck as possible, you could have a shop like FP or Blouch stick a standard EVO3 16g comp. wheel in it and rebuild it. The larger comp. housing should allow for a little more flow over the TD05H housing. As far as making it a sleeper, that housing is a dead give-away that it's a larger than stock turbo. If you want sleeper, get an EVO3 16g and call it a day.

As long as it says mitsubishi on it, it can be passed as stock here. I got pulled over once and got crap for my T-25. yeah i guess to a person who knows DSM's. they would figure it out but someone who's completely obvious to dsm you could.

f your sticking with the "G" series wheels (16g, 18g, etc.) then the biggest wheel that'll fit in there is a td06 20g compressor wheel. If your interested in doing some machine work, then I'd look into a Garrett GT3076r compressor wheel. Don't ask why, a little birdie told me a secret about that wheel....

*edit* ^ damn that bird is telling everyone what FP uses in there "green"... I'm not leaving fed out for him anymore!

i might try the the 3076 wheel on this . is there any exhaust wheel upgrade i can do? or must i stay with a TD05 wheel?

 

[polarmoment]

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that's a 17c syclone/typhoon cover. a big 16g or E316g will drop right in (provided you use the superback seal plate).

those guys hog them out to put 20g wheels in them for their trucks all the time. i'm running a big16g wheel in the one on my MR2 right now (with the TD06 turbine) and it's not a bad setup, but i think the 18g or 20g is the way to go. i was just experimenting because i had the parts lying around.

also, post up how the 3076 wheel fits and what you had to remove to make it fit.. i'm thinking about other options to upgrade my compressor.

 

[Steve93Talon]

Anything bigger than a 20g wheel would be a horrible mis-match with a TD05H turbine wheel. If you're going to try something the size of a 3076R, I'd look into the TD06SL2. Supposedly doesn't give up much spool yet improves flow. I'd also look at the HTA version of the 3076 wheel. It's a big improvement over the standard Garrett version in both flow and spool. If it was me, I'd keep it simple and just slap a 20g wheel in there and clip the TD05H turbine wheel. Good for easy 11s on most setups. Fast spooling, ridiculous midrange torque, and plenty up top.

 

[NOSLO2PT0]

*edit* ^ damn that bird is telling everyone what FP uses in there "green"... I'm not leaving fed out for him anymore!

Welcome to 2002!!

 

[CPHunter]

Anybody know a good place online to buy compressor wheels? housings? turbine wheels? just want to look around and shop around on prices