2G Base timing HKS gears

[DSMPT]

@DSMPT ,when I do focus on just the horizontal timing marks, the dowels are not at 12, when the gears are adjusted to their factory zero. Also using the tooth circled in green does not allow the dowels to be at 12 without adjusting them.

A simple answer for you why you don't see it in the right position is, because you are doing it incorrectly, including the tensioner. I don't know maybe I didn't explain well myself above or you don't understand...
If you are not sure what I am talking about, I would recommend to get the tool like the one in the Jeff's pic below. With that tool, you can't set the cam gears position incorrectly since you can't put the tool in if the cam gears positions are wrong.

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[JeffGS-T97]

I don't mean to piggy back off this thread, but I'm gonna for the sake of sharing info. I just timed my engine, twice. First time following the timing marks on the HKS gears as they were when shipped. I wasn't satisfied as all the marks lined up, but the 12 o' clock position if the camshaft dowel pins were not at 12. Also the tensioner arm was bottomed out on the tensioner itself. Decided to realign the position of the cam dowels to be at 12, and still have the timing marks lined up. Retimed the engine. Still the tensioner arm is bottomed out. So still not in time. And the crank mark looks to be possibly 1 tooth off. Any advice? The 1st cam pic is before I adjusted from how they shipped. The other 3 pics are after retiming.

This is a 6 bolt with 2g head, oem crank, Kelford cams.

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*Edit*
I just rotated the crank another 6 revolutions. Got the tensioner to add a little space, not as much as I'd like, but close. I typically call it good once I can snugly roll the grenade pin into the gap.

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This is what the thread is for man I'm glad this thread is helping more people with their engines.