AWD to RWD thread, official [Merged 10-7]

[iamtall77]

it's true you only need one bolt, and according to Road Race Engineering you need to weld the center diff. and it's only good for about stock power. Looks like i'll be droping the block so i can get to that damn hole and helicoil the thing. Wish me luck.

 

[Kinetik_tsi]

good luck

 

[loreak]

i had mine snap off on my 2g, i just got in and they twisted right out after spraying with some pb, but i guess urs are stripped, thats gonna be a pain to helicoil

 

[turboslug]

Taking apart my friends 90 awd, we were pulling the front cv joints but the shaft end stuck in the tranny. The c-clips were no where to be found. So I thought, just maybe you could weld the cv ends into tranny, so it would bleed, and just run it rwd. Is that possible or would it not move, or cause damage down the road?

 

[turboslug]

*so it wouldn't bleed*

 

[GRNDSM]

"weld and bleed"? You are not making much sense there...

You can lave the CV part in the tranny as plug. You will then have to lock your center diff by ether using a VCE or a welded center diff.

But you will not be able to put much power to the DSM rear end. Especially on the 90-91, 3 bolt units.

Bad idea all around, unless you need to do it limp home form a far away event.

Leon
RR

 

[bastarddsm]

ok to start this out my car started off life as a fwd auto non turbo. now it is a 5speed turbo, and i have come to the conclusion after manny passes and the thing bein all over the road inlower gears under boost that fwd sux. somewhere i heard that there is a mitsu truck that is rwd and has the same bellhousing pattern as a 4g63. is this true? now my second question can it be done turning the motor 90degrees and being rwd? i plan on using a 9inch ford rear end because i have like 3 at home and they are pretty much bullit proof. i only see 2 major problems hood clearance. and the steering rack. any ideas anyone?

 

[ViciousVendetta]

Hmmm I dunno but you should check out how Buschur and Rau did it. Their 2G cars are both RWD, at least im pretty sure...

 

[rBerlin]

Tube bodies do wonders

 

[loreak]

i have seen a blue 1g dsm that did not look at all tube framed, that was tubbed out and had huge slicks in the back, it was rwd.......so i think someone has done it. i saw that in modified mag

 

[k_laforme]

it can be done and has been done and i plan to do the rwd 4g63t swap on a s10 pickup... BUT..... the intake manifold would need to be modified because it would be facing towards the back or the firewall.... and to do this in a car there would be problems with fitment unless you plan to hack up the car

thats just my input...... sounds like one hell of a good powerplant for a lightweight, rwd vehicle

 

[Cirus_93TSI]

if u have 8 to 10 thoudand bucks to spend on this and several months to have the car off the road while its being worked on then u can make a rwd dsm, buschur did it, but its far from cheap and far from cost effective for the performance u would get, u could convert to awd for much less money, and it would be quite a bit faster then a rwd car unless the rwd had giant slicks

u will have to get everything race built to handel the power, stock trans from a mitsu truck will blow out from the power of the turbo, u would have to saw the front end up to get the engine to fit sideways and u will probally and up having to extend the front end, plus thousands in cutsom parts to make everything line up

its really not hard to figure out that u should rethink your plans, you could convert to awd and spend the 7000 u saved on some performance mods, instead of converting to rwd which wolnt make your car the slightest bit faster without slicks, and with slicks the fwwd set up would be plenty fast
or better yet u could buy an awd car, swap all ur upgraded parts over to it, then sell your car and use the $9000 u saved over the rwd conversion and buy alot of performance parts

but if you want to waste 10 thousand bucks on something that wolnt make ur car any faster then go right ahead

 

[adidas_coin]

Originally posted by NOSNUSE
just wondering are you also looking for piston return springs for an rx-7?

I am looking for a head gasket though...

 

[GRNDSM]

Man, what made you bring this thread back?

Closed...

 

[AWDlaserRS]

To start with, I dont want to convert my car to RWD, I was just reading about how its hard to convert to RWD and stuff and I thought of a possible simple way to do it. Why not just weld the center differential and just remove the front driveshafts? Could this work?

 

[Wobble]

no, the read halfshafts simply are not strong enough, GSX is like 70% front and 30% rear, so if you put all the stress to the rear even on a stock car.. it will break..

 

[Jason84]

actually the awd dsms are 60/40 more rear aernt they ?(thats what i thought but i dont know everything )

 

[psychlow]

Just a question - you have an AWD....
Why in the HELL would you want to convert it to RWD only?!?

Is it to meet a class requirement? If so, get yourself a Mustang 5.0 and call it good. A RWD DSM will cost a lot more, be much less reliable, and are just not built to be RWD.

 

[Shortshift]

He doesnt want to, he is just asking if it were to be possible.

 

[AWDlaserRS]

psychlow did you even read my first post?


I thought AWD's were mostly rear too, they feel like it anyway. But yeah it does make sense that the driveshafts wouldn't be strong enough, so you would have to find beefier ones, and probably a beefier rear end too, or would the 4 bolt be rugged enough?

 

[psychlow]

Good point, my fault.

Possible: It could work. But why?

Most people who want to convert to RWD are FWD, not AWD. That's why it's a big PITA.

EDIT: Have you ever worked on or seen a high-HP RWD car? Even my car (only 215HP) has a Ford 8.8 rear and huge axles stock. The guy who posted above is right - even with the chromoly axles some companies advertise, I bet you'd still be snapping axles and if not, shredding your rear.

 

[AWDlaserRS]

Ya I agree with you about constantly breaking things if it was done.
Was just an idea that popped into my head. I do know that some or all (not an expert on them) Gallant VR4's can switch between Front and AWD, but I think its just a JDM thing. Well now I know that it would work but only for a short time.

 

[talonstylz]

you need to get the engine turned sideways like the 240/sylvia
in order to properly convert it to rwd

 

[talonstylz]

the problem with breaking is something to do with the tranny not being positioned properly, it needs to be facing towards the back not to the side like it is

 

[allwheelTSI]

just to clear things up,the AWD DSMs are 50/50 split.
the stock DSM rearend will not hold up to a RWD setup. 3 bolt or 4 bolt.
this has been discussed a million times over do a search on "RWD DSM"
lastly,STOP TRYING TO WRECK YOUR DAMN CAR!