AWD to RWD thread, official [Merged 10-7]

[kidwiththelaser]

Well since there is a shit load of snow out today in mpls, go out and practice your drifting whike you can!!

It wont be so easy when this snow melts!

Also check out DSMStyle.com if you dont already, its a local DSM site.

 

[dealz]

you can make it rwd the cheap way but dont expect your cars life to go much further after that..... i dunno maybe if you reinforce your drivetrain take a look at this video
http://videos.streetfire.net/Player....1-9B03EEBAD3FA
http://videos.streetfire.net/Player....3-A758D481F692
the guy posted about it in the videos section ill try to find it

but what i can say is that the rear end only lasted 3 or 4 weeks

 

[TSiWarrior]

My trans is almost dead and i've been wanting to try to find a way for RWD for a while. I was looking at vfaq and wondering a few things. If i lock down the VC by removing the both for selectable awd/fwd on the trans, and take out the half shafts, but not remove the bolt on the t-case will it go into rwd mode? Or is there any possible way even with the selectable trans?

*gets flame suit ready*

 

[alex]

Just blow your center differential. RWD is extremely fun on these turbocharged DSMs!

 

[TSiWarrior]

Sounds good, I hate that trans. What's the best way to go about blowing the center diff on purpose?

 

[tstkl]

ask these guys. I think it might have been sbr but I dunno.

 

[TSiWarrior]

Haha yeah, that's one way to do it. A few other's have done the same thing. I'm not trying to RWD it for racing or anything. I just said since my trans is on last few miles why not give rwd a shot. Looking for some information if it's possible when using the selector on my selectable trans to lock that VC down If it's not possible at all im not gunna waste my time, but if it is im gunna go have some fun before the trans comes out of the car and into the pile of broken dsm stuff (about a 5' by 5' and stacked maybe 4' high)

 

[alex]

You could take your tranny apart and do it.

 

[TSITuner4Lyfe69]

Well I was on WWW.Streetfire.net late last night when I clicked on a video of a DSM doing a burnout, at first I thought it was jus another ordinary FWD Burnout but then I noticed he started getting squigly and side to side he went on road and then it hit me the car was RWD but how do you get an AWD or FWD 1994 Eagle Talon TSI to be like that??
Heres The Video http://videos.streetfire.net/category/Funny/5/25A164E2-2C5D-4E48-AB51-9B03EEBAD3FA.htm

 

[my98GST]

A hell of lot of money and a lot of time.... Not worth it IMO. And theres only a few trannies you can use with it. It would be better just saving up and getting a 240, rx-7, or something of the sort....

 

[TSITuner4Lyfe69]

A hell of lot of money and a lot of time.... Not worth it IMO. And theres only a few trannies you can use with it. It would be better just saving up and getting a 240, rx-7, or something of the sort....

I already got the rx7 but i thought that making it RWD had something to do with the transfer case and disabling the front like maybe taking the two cv axles??

 

[my98GST]

I'm not really for sure in all of the processes, but it would be a PITA and very costly from what I've been hearing. Several of my friends have thought about doing it until they took it to a shop and got an estimate and then they just decided to make more power to make up for it

 

[hereitcomes]

Ya you disable the front axles. But that is alot of stress on the stock spline and transfer case. It puts a live axle to the back wheels though...as makes the solid 2 tire fire burnout haha. Ive seen this video like93842193 times and I love it.

 

[TSITuner4Lyfe69]

yea i love it too and i want my car to be rwd the rx7 yea is special its rotary but its an 1988 Mazda RX7 N/A Soo therefore not enough power for me

 

[tstkl]

Im sure anyone who has the time/money to turn a 4g63 and make a 1g rwd would probably know, so you could still ask them how you could do it without moving the engine.

 

[TurboB5]

There was a 2G last time i was etown that broke something up front, and had to drive home RWD

 

[TSITuner4Lyfe69]

There was a 2G last time i was etown that broke something up front, and had to drive home RWD

Yes Now alls I have to do is go downtown and hope I break something up front

 

[exiletalon]

Havnt you guys seen the super drag RWD 2G from ACT, That thing is fast, I heard of people putting the starion setup- somehow-into some DSM's I think it is a cool concept, imagine this- the DSMtuners sponser the first professional DSM drift car. A 120mph 2G flying aroun the corner at irwindale sideways- A very cool thought- but much more money than I can spend, But hey, they have a RWD drift WRX STI!!!

 

[alex]

Could you imagine, a DSM doing a brake stand. I would pay to see that.

 

[mopardwh]

The first way; by removing front axles would of course be the easiest. However your taking a stock drivetrain and instantly doubling the hp it was set up for. Would probably work fine if you don't have much more power than stock. But the rear end or t-case will eventually break faster. (More than likely)

The second way; longitudinally mounted would consume much much more effort but would probably be better in the long run, assuming thats what you really want. You are limited on what transmissions to use, Might Max, Ram 50...

 

[VelocitàPaola]

The first way; by removing front axles would of course be the easiest. However your taking a stock drivetrain and instantly doubling the hp it was set up for. Would probably work fine if you don't have much more power than stock. But the rear end or t-case will eventually break faster. (More than likely)

The second way; longitudinally mounted would consume much much more effort but would probably be better in the long run, assuming thats what you really want. You are limited on what transmissions to use, Might Max, Ram 50...

You're absolutely right. Simply removing the front axles won't quite do the trick. For one, the rear differential can't handle the engine's full load, and will fail, one way or another. Second, you would need to weld your center differential, or use some other similar technique of locking the driveshaft. With the stock open differential (as in most cases, the front disconnected axles will spin, leaving you without any power to the rear.

Haven't any of you guys seen Buschur's RWD DSMs? They rotated the engines 90* (which required new engine mounts, etc., obivously) and slapped a RWD GM tranny on. As I see it, that's the only way to go. In my opinion, disconnecting the front axles just leaves you with a broken AWD...

http://www.buschurracing.com/about.htm

 

[VelocitàPaola]

This is the second post I've seen about RWD Eclipses today...

There are a few methods to make your car RWD; some work better than others. Simply locking your center differential and removing the front axles won't be the best route. The rear diff. wasn't designed to handle the all of the engine's power and will fail sooner or later.

Buschur made a RWD DSM (doesn't anyone remember this?). They had to rotate the engine 90* and use a GM tranny and GM RWD drivetrain.

http://www.buschurracing.com/about.htm

 

[igs]

If people are pushing 400-500 hp on stock diff and axles, wouldn't it be able to handle 200 hp rwd?

 

[Ultimatedsm]

You disconnect your front axles and you will not even move. Don't believe me, try it then.

 

[Alfordz123]

Hey guys,

I got a VCE to dyno my car on a 2 WD dyno

I know you can put it in and drop ## transfer case and drive shaft and be fine...

I was wanting to run RWD so i could play for a day or two......

I have extra junk axles so that i could use the cups for the tranny side
and for the hub side so it will hole the wheel bearing inplace without having the shaft inplace

I just was wandering if anyone had input on if the transer case would have any problems?

i think i remember a guy doing this and he dynoed his car at like 850 WHP

If anyone knows anything let me know
Alex