AWD to RWD thread, official [Merged 10-7]

[beating4g63s]

heres a little info on that motor it is used for swaps in neons, just about every single eclipse/talon/laser owner hasn't really stumbled across that and when they read that it's rwd they close the page or stop reading there, anyways the tranny that matches up to it is found http://www.hughesperformance.com/street.html here it's the last one on the page, also I believe a s-10 will fit that block, not 100%. I found exactly what your looking at a couple of years ago when I blew my motor and was looking for a replacement, anyways specs on that block you can probably look on neon forums to find out. also making it fit sideways can be done. I've actually searched and found someone who put a 4g63 motor sideways in a 80S model s-10 the box looking one. probably like a 89 or so. and that truck was rwd using the stock s-10 rear end. also a few months ago I was watching car and driver or some show like that, and they did a special on a mini cooper in Europe not the new one but the hella old one, and that some crazy British guy had a 4g63 sideways not sure if it was rwd,fwd, or awd. so having motor sideways can be done. and as for the twin turbo system, theres one guy on the 3g forums that put a twin turbo system on a 3g I believe it was the gs model not the gt. and it worked he had a full build up written to. not sure if he put any numbers on the system, anyways this post isn't like 4g63 swaps, this block is made for neons with 420a motors, so if the 420a from a neon will fit into a eclipse this block will fit. if you actually read the link he posted it says made for neon. 2.0/2.4. plus theres probably never a post about this so he couldn't search for it. so what rule did he break to get his thread locked. anyways I hope I helped in anyway good luck with the block and all.

 

[Trbo4Banger]

well i just got my car back and it was snowing and eveytime i had my freind check i was only spinning the rear tires , the LSD is working just fine in the back but i dont know why it only spins the back tires. Even on dry pavement i can do a great burnout with the rear wheels but nothing in the front. If anyone has any ideas on what is going on i would love some opinoins...thanks

 

[JessesTalon]

well i just got my car back and it was snowing and eveytime i had my freind check i was only spinning the rear tires , the LSD is working just fine in the back but i dont know why it only spins the back tires. Even on dry pavement i can do a great burnout with the rear wheels but nothing in the front. If anyone has any ideas on what is going on i would love some opinoins...thanks

your center diff is toast

 

[JessesTalon]

your center diff is toast

I converted my Subaru to Rear Wheel Drive, taking out the 4 spider in the center diff and having the center diff welded up...

its VERY fun as rwd...


does yours making clanking noises while turning the wheel full lock and drivng?

 

[jon-brady]

I've always wanted to put a LT1 in my Eclipse and make it RWD but thats just a dream, im not actually gonna do. But it would be bad ass!

 

[Defiant]

I should have bought that Miura/S back in '76 for $14,000.

 

[R34GSX]

Well, since I wanted a rwd car. But parents told me not to get one because of the snow. So I bought an Eclipse AWD, since I wanted performance. I wanted to maybe become a drifter someday. I havent seen any Eclipse drift cars so far, and I kinda wanna stick out, out of all the 240's, Ae86, and FC's.


So I'll get to the point. I was thinking of making my Eclipse RWD. But what do I need to do? . For sure I'll need a rebuild racing transmission. Friend told me it's easy to go rwd from an awd tranny. Just by taking out the front axle transmission thingy. But I dont think so... .

 

[blcknspo0ln]

Incorrect assumption from your friend. For one, you will need to mount the engine in a north/south position. If you will, just look how the sr20det motors are mounted. With the transmission facing rearward, you have a start. Making a RWD drifter isn't the easiest thing in the world to do. I would suggest doing your homework before doing such a project like this.

 

[DSMcamaro]

please don't butcher a perfectly good AWD. Wait until you can afford your 240 or whatever RWD car you want. Older supras and rx-7 maybe be ugly, but they can be afford RWD cars with power.

 

[R34GSX]

^Haha, well I was just wondering. If it's too difficult, I would just buy one of those drift cars instead, and save money for the upgrades, . So far from what you guys said. I guess if it requires conversion and isn't bolt on parts. I guess I'll just get a rwd car instead. Thanks for the info, .

 

[kottyking]

www.buschurracing.com has rwd conversion kits too.

 

[R34GSX]

^Whoa, thanks man. Maybe I am gonna make an Eclipse Drifter, . That Torque converter is pretty damn expensive, .


Wait.., Are those bolt on parts? Or do I need to mess with it to make it fit...

 

[out there]

since you're not too far away, there is a shop here that was converting a 91 gsx to rwd with drag racing in mind. www.straightlinespecialties.com i haven't been there for a while, money is just too tight during school... drop an email and ask about it, nick tufte (most likely the person you'll get in contact with) is a very down to earth guy and knows his stuff. i believe the car being converted belonged to kevin smith. if they have finished it, you may want to think about driving over to take a look at it in person
it's not too unrealistic to think about doing something like this, but there are a lot of headaches waiting for you.

 

[boostedinaz]

Nothing that you are doing is going to bolt it. If you want to do this you will have to pay to play. Plus if you have noticed not one drift car is an auto especailly with the power band of our cars. Bad idea all together.

Sounds like you need to go pay to much money for a 240 or the like and jump on the bandwagon with the rest of those guys. It will be the easiest route and a DSM won't be butchered as a result.

 

[Nelsons91AWD]

^Whoa, thanks man. Maybe I am gonna make an Eclipse Drifter, . That Torque converter is pretty damn expensive, .


Wait.., Are those bolt on parts? Or do I need to mess with it to make it fit...

Yea Man you are going to be doing Alot of messing around converting AWD to Rear, it is definetly not a bolt on affair

 

[VPrime]

Also... have you even tried to drift? it would be a major waste of money if you are no good...
if you want to just go and try, or get into drifitg buy a cheap rwd car.

 

[R34GSX]

since you're not too far away, there is a shop here that was converting a 91 gsx to rwd with drag racing in mind. www.straightlinespecialties.com i haven't been there for a while, money is just too tight during school... drop an email and ask about it, nick tufte (most likely the person you'll get in contact with) is a very down to earth guy and knows his stuff. i believe the car being converted belonged to kevin smith. if they have finished it, you may want to think about driving over to take a look at it in person
it's not too unrealistic to think about doing something like this, but there are a lot of headaches waiting for you.

Thanks for the info.




But I dont like headaches. I just wanted something easy. Bolt on and run. But now, it sounds pretty difficult. So I might as well get a RWD car instead. I wont make my Eclipse RWD, unless there's bolt on parts to make it rwd, manual. So far I like the AWD system, and I can pretty much practice drift with it in the snow, . But drifting just came to mind, and I was thinking and kinda wanted to show peope out there that there are Eclipse/Talon/Laser that can drift too, .

 

[EvolvingGST]

There is such a thing called AWD drifting. Its more competition drifting and not show drifting but I assume you want to be a show drifter.

Dude go buy 1k for a 1989 240sx and be done with it...

 

[R34GSX]

^Yeah. Sorry, I feel like I'm being bashed for thinking about making my car a drifter, . But yeah, I wont hurt my car. I was just thinking of an Eclipse project drift car, .

 

[ProbeonPSI]

can you not just weld the viscous coupler solid and remove the front axels...

 

[Enraged78]

can you not just weld the viscous coupler solid and remove the front axels...

You can, and it has been done. A member on tuners posted a video about a year ago of a 1G Talon with just this. He posted later that the rear end couldn't handle the abuse, and eventually grenaded. He also noted that the weight distribution was less than ideal.

Matt.

 

[Matrixhunter]

From the sound of his post it seems as if he wouldnt be able change his own oil in the car... noob and to even think that you can convert a talon into a RWD with bolt on parts is ridiculous. I would advise against destroying a perfectly good AWD. Not to mention 240sx are dirt cheap just sell the talon and get a 240sx if you wants a drifter so bad.

 

[ProbeonPSI]

it's not as if its super difficult to do... just isn't a good idea.

 

[gridlyne]

If you really wanna stand out, hook your car up with performance parts and drive. Trust me, you will get peoples attention.

 

[R34GSX]

From the sound of his post it seems as if he wouldnt be able change his own oil in the car... noob and to even think that you can convert a talon into a RWD with bolt on parts is ridiculous. I would advise against destroying a perfectly good AWD. Not to mention 240sx are dirt cheap just sell the talon and get a 240sx if you wants a drifter so bad.

Did you even read the forums before you came here?. It's a newbie forum. Yeah I'm a newbie, asking newbie questions. You sound like a noob by calling me a noob, and did you even know this is a newbie forum? .


Thanks for the tips guys. If not drift, I plan to auto x with it, or high speed car, .