Adjusting Koni Yellow's (Sports)

[project_tsi]

Can anyone explain the ins and outs of adjusting Koni yellows? I just got my set in and I want to set them up properly but the only info that came with it I can't halfway understand. Do you have to remove the rears to adjust, etc?

Thanks, Dan.

 

[4BangR-x]

Finally putting those Christmas presents to work, eh?

 

[project_tsi]

If I can figure out the ins and outs of them yes.

 

[RamenPride]

Do you have to remove the rears to adjust, etc?

Thanks, Dan.

Yeah, you have to take out the rears to adjust them.

http://www.koni-na.com/knob.cfm

http://www.koni-na.com/compb.cfm

 

[WatchItExplode]

Yeah, you have to take out the rears to adjust them.

http://www.koni-na.com/knob.cfm

http://www.koni-na.com/compb.cfm

The primary reason for people doing Yellows up front and AGX in the rear.

 

[mavisky]

The cool things about shocks (and you can ask DG about this) is that you shouldn't have to constantly adjust them. Set them once and they're right. Everyone's always adjusting their AGX's because they're way too stiff and most people use them to gain more spring rate. People look at me weird when I tell them I autox at 1 in the front and 4 in the rear. But the front's shocks are so overly stiff for my spring rates that anything stiffer just makes it pogo.

 

[jtmcinder]

But many other people will tell you that they do adjust their shocks as a function of weather and/or course design and/or pavement condition, although the key is often being able to soften the fronts when grip is low.

- Jtoby

 

[TSIfreek]

How stiff are guys going on 1g rear koni sports for drag using coil overs? I have heard 3/4 from full stiff

 

[Dream On]

^^ Same question for 1g guys for a street and auto-x setup?

 

[jtmcinder]

Asking where to set an adjustable shock without saying what springs you have will not evoke useful replies.

- Jtoby

 

[mavisky]

True Jtoby, but for 80% of the time you're going to be pretty good with that one setting, and luckily the fronts are easily adjusted on the Koni's.

 

[project_tsi]

I got the rears done and adjusted, but damn these fronts are being a PITA to install with the GC kit!

 

[eclipse2via]

Do you have the right sleeve for Konis? There are two different sleeve sizes, one for Konis and one for AGXs.

 

[project_tsi]

I ordered the GC's for the Koni's so I'd assume I have the right kit, the box says koni and so does the instuctions. The rears fit fine, but the fronts are not. The GC threaded sleeve won't fit on to the shock. Vfaq says you have to trim the lip of the koni and I did that but still the black pressed in collar on the GC threaded sleeve is preventing it from going down. But looking at the Vfaq, the threaded sleeve just sits on the stock spring bottom plate so If I pop out the pressed in collar in the threaded sleeve it looks like it work work just like in the Vfaq.

 

[pneumo]

There's an easier way to adjust the rear Koni's if you have the right tool. Here's a couple pics.
The first pic shows a long handled screwdriver with a 5mm hex wrench filed into the end. The second pic shows how to use it. Just remove the interior trim cover, rubber cover, and top mounting nuts. Then use the hexdriver tool to push the shock shaft down to the bottom so the adjuster makes contact. Rotate to adjust damping. I marked the handle of the hexdriver tool so I could keep tract of how much adjustment I made, that way I could duplicate the ammount of adjustment with the other side. The car doesn't ride so good when the rear shocks have different damping rates.

I know you guys are saying that once you have it adjusted right you won't have to touch it again, but how do you know when it's right? For me it took a fair ammount of trial and error before it felt right, and even then I wonder if there's a better setting? So I've gotten quite a bit of use out of this tool. Does anyone have any advice on how to find the right setting? What should the car do on bumps, dips, cornering transitions?

 

[project_tsi]

That tool is a good idea, I thought about something like that the other day.

 

[mavisky]

Dragging up an old thread here, but how does that tool work since you need to compress the shock to adjust it? I know I can't bottom out the shock with the springs set the way they are. Hell I get about 1/4" of compression before the whole ass end of the car goes up in the air.

 

[project_tsi]

Kyle, remove the nut thats threaded on the shock, and the tool should push only the shock down, and not the spring, allowing you to adjust it.

 

[mavisky]

Ahh, now I feel retarded.

Now on the Koni's this doesn't affect the compression setting on the rears? I'm still bottoming out the rear tires on the inner fenders even with 415 springs on a gutted rear end of a fwd. I will either have to raise the vehicle again to keep it off the tires, adjust the compression valving to slow down the rear's movement, cut out more of those fenders, or step up the rates all around to some Collier-esque rates.

 

[thekellbeast]

Is it just a 1g thing to remove the rears to adjust them? Both my fronts and rears have the tab/knob setup on top of them.

 

[jtmcinder]

The adjuster on all Koni Sports only affects rebound.

You only have to compress-to-adjust on 1Gs.

- Jtoby