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Mar 26, 2004
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Greetings,
After the death of my Talon, I searched and searched for another. I may have found it. Here's the problem.

The car has a bad turbo on it right now, the stock t25. the turbo isn't bad, but the wastegate is, so the whole setup has to be replaced.

I have a b16g to go on the car. the car has been running with the bad WG for a while, is that bad for it?


the car is 100% stock right now, what can I do to run tis b16g safely? what would be the max boost?
 
no its not bad, it just means the car was underpowered, but I have NO clue how the wastegate itself would fail. Something else is wrong. I'm sure its not the wastegate. Don't run more then 15 psi stock. To be safe I'd run 12-14 psi on the B16G. And do you have a 2g install kit for it?
 
it sounds like who ever is selling it to you is pushing you hard to get it. but a b16g usually won't bolt right up unless there is some mods done to the turbo or to the engine, mods like custom piping.
 
actually i asked them to sell it to me, he is describing things to the best of his knowledge.. i don't think he's sure which turbo it is honestly... but i do know the car hasn't had a 100% functional turbo for a while, and was mainly wondering if that hurts.. and when this 16g is bolted, what is the max i should push?
 
What is broken in the wastegate? If its stuck open, it would take forever to build boost and not hurt anything. If it is stuck closed, however, you run the risk of overboosting. Same scenario as putting a MBC on your car and turning it way up...the more boost you bleed of on a MBC, the more boost your turbo puts out. 4g63 engines tend to hold up fairly well to quick overboost thanks to fuel cut, but if its continually run at high boost levels with no fuel to support it, the engine will melt its pistons. Pull the plugs to see if there are aluminum specs on them and to see the runnng condition of the engine.

No, the 16g won't bolt right up, but its not hard to put it on. 2g install kit is overpriced, but if you want it, go for it. If not, for about 60-80 you can put your own together. You'll need a j-pipe, 1g oil line and crush washers/banjo bolts, and if your careful bending them, you can use your stock 2g coolant lines.

If you don't have any way to monitor how your engine is running, I'd keep boost around 12-13 psi on the 16g. You'll feel a BIG improvement over stock even at those boost levels. To really put the 16g to use, you will need a bigger pump at the VERY least, and bigger injectors and a computer to control them.
 
ok, i saw the turbo today. it looks as if it's a direct bolt on

it almost looks like the stock turbo from the outside, is this possible? also he said it is a 18g, it's ported/polished
 
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