Mischif
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- Mar 31, 2008
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El Paso,
Texas
So after roughly two years of collecting parts, i finally pieced everything together i needed to turbo my 1.8. Picked up my manifolds from a previous turbo 1.8 part out. Log style manifold, smim, ebay ic piping and bov, ebay afpr, safc neo, homemade downpipe, t3 to dsm flange adapter, 14b turbo, 390cc injectors.
Now i'm no stranger when it comes to the 1.8. For the past 5 years i've been playing with it seeing what i could get out of it all motor. Built a few motors, killed a few motors.
So back in may of 2012 i decided it was time to turbo one. the ginue pig was a 94 i was using as my back up dd since my 93 was totaled, and my 92 gsx was sitting needing an engine rebuild, and a second 93 that was my primary car. Anyway the 94 was on its last leg. It had an engine i built. It had a leaking head gasket and a rod knocking. So i set out to put the turbo on it with the intentions of seeing how long it took before i blew it up.
I made a very rough plug and play injector resistor harness. Since i had no intentions of really using this car i did not want to go through the hassle of properly wiring in the resistor. The engine was pretty stock besides having a shaved head that gave me around 10:1 compression. Once everything was on, took it for a spin. Right away i ran into a problem, wasn't getting enough fuel. I was running stock waste gate pressure(9psi) and really lean around 13's on the wideband during boost. Needless to say i blew the head gasket. So i let it sit for a week while i waited for a new fuel pump to arrive. Fuel pump came put it in and still ran the car with the bad head gasket. Now i lived about a block from a nice little side street where i would go do my pulls. I was able to do about 3 or 4 and make it home before it overheated too too much. Like i said i wanted to blow the motor for shits and giggles. Even with the new fuel i still wasn't getting enough fuel, still running the same 13's. So after playing around with it, using mmcd to log, i figured out it was due to the ecu limiting injector duty to a max of around 50%. Raised fuel pressure to compensate and get my a/f ratios where i wanted them. So then i kept doing my pulls on this little side street waiting for that bad rod to let go or the head gasket to give out completely. Well after about a week i gave up and decided it was time to pull the engine.
Got the engine out and ripped the head off to see the damage.
Despite the blown head and the knocking rod it still pulled hard. The rod knock never even got worse. Those acl race bearings are no joke.
So i decided it was time to get the totaled 93 back up and running. reworked the front end, made a custom solid steel tranny mount, and it was finally ready for an engine to go back in. So i pulled out the original motor for it out of the closet. It had around 200k on it so far. Dropped the pan and checked the rods, no play, bearings were still okay. Got a new head gasket and ordered some arp studs for it.
The bottom end is original and the valve train is original as well. Everything else has been replaced on it at some point in time.
Got the engine in and everything ready to rock.
So it took me about a week to get the fuel dialed in just right, playing with the maf, fuel pressure and safc to get some good 10's during full boost. Got my fuel setup just right so it started to take over dd duties again. Ran into some overheating issues. Played around with that for the next 2 weeks before i figured out it was a timing issue. Ignition timing was way to aggressive. Got my timing right and my overheating due to detonation went away. about another 2 weeks later i switched my timing method and set it up to run constant static timing. So now she's set no more issues.
So now my goal was to make out the 390's. I wound up getting about 12 lbs of boost out of them. DD'd it like that for the next few months. Got tired of 12lbs and decided it was time to go bigger. Put in some 450's and upped the boost to 15. My clutch started to slip. Ordered a ebay 6puck.
Now this thing took forever to break in. At around 4k miles it finally stopped slipping during full boost.
Now my goal was always 15psi of boost....but injectors werent maxed yet and i wanted to see just how much this old engine could take. up it went again. got about 16-17 psi out of them, with spikes to 18 from time to time.
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iuSEtcuILrU]Eclipse 1.8 turbo 16 psi boost.3gp - YouTube[/ame]
So quiet a few months went by with me dd'ing it like that. I've honestly almost never have to do anything to the car. Except adjust the tune just about daily, since the slightest change in air temp produces a big change in my a/f ratios. The only major issue i ever had was my fuel line connecting the pump to the hanger would burst every few months. But i finally put in a better line and haven't had issues with that in a long time.
Anyway i got bored with the 450's so i started looking for some bigger injectors. So at the end of January i traded some parts for a set of evo 560's. Got those in and upped the boost again. Got it set for 20lbs now.
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4RNyrTLFg1k]1993 Eclipse 1.8 turbo 20psi - YouTube[/ame]
Middle of march it developed a really bad miss during normal driving. Turned out that one of the wires for my tps was barely making a connection.
Anyway turbo has been on for a little over 20k now. Last time i did a compression test it was still almost perfect, 180 across the board +/- 3 psi. Turbo still has zero shaft play.
The stock cam is really the weakest link in the setup right now. Its dead by 5krpms, and i dont get full spool until 4k. So right now im working on a new manifold that will hopefully improve my spool up time. I also have a reground cam waiting to go in that will be good all the way to the rev limiter of 6.5k. Megasquirt is also on the list of things to get, but that probably wont happen anytime this year.
So for now im just going to keep dd'ing it and see whats the first to go, the engine or the turbo.
Initial build cost:
Turbo manifold, intake manifold, mustange tb, 390'cc, oil pan drain, afpr, $500
machine work to fix warped flanges on intake $40
225 hp fuel pump $50
safc neo $175
sidemount, ic piping, bov $125
14b turbo , j pipe, down pipe, o2 housing, stock wastegate actuator $170
t3 to mitsu turbo flange adapter, external wastegate block off plate $70
aem uego $180
Boost gauge $25
Total cost about $1400
Safc tuning sucks. Anyone that wants to turbo their 1.8 save yourself the headache of having to figure out ignition and fuel tuning and just go megasquirt.
Now i'm no stranger when it comes to the 1.8. For the past 5 years i've been playing with it seeing what i could get out of it all motor. Built a few motors, killed a few motors.
So back in may of 2012 i decided it was time to turbo one. the ginue pig was a 94 i was using as my back up dd since my 93 was totaled, and my 92 gsx was sitting needing an engine rebuild, and a second 93 that was my primary car. Anyway the 94 was on its last leg. It had an engine i built. It had a leaking head gasket and a rod knocking. So i set out to put the turbo on it with the intentions of seeing how long it took before i blew it up.
I made a very rough plug and play injector resistor harness. Since i had no intentions of really using this car i did not want to go through the hassle of properly wiring in the resistor. The engine was pretty stock besides having a shaved head that gave me around 10:1 compression. Once everything was on, took it for a spin. Right away i ran into a problem, wasn't getting enough fuel. I was running stock waste gate pressure(9psi) and really lean around 13's on the wideband during boost. Needless to say i blew the head gasket. So i let it sit for a week while i waited for a new fuel pump to arrive. Fuel pump came put it in and still ran the car with the bad head gasket. Now i lived about a block from a nice little side street where i would go do my pulls. I was able to do about 3 or 4 and make it home before it overheated too too much. Like i said i wanted to blow the motor for shits and giggles. Even with the new fuel i still wasn't getting enough fuel, still running the same 13's. So after playing around with it, using mmcd to log, i figured out it was due to the ecu limiting injector duty to a max of around 50%. Raised fuel pressure to compensate and get my a/f ratios where i wanted them. So then i kept doing my pulls on this little side street waiting for that bad rod to let go or the head gasket to give out completely. Well after about a week i gave up and decided it was time to pull the engine.
Got the engine out and ripped the head off to see the damage.
Despite the blown head and the knocking rod it still pulled hard. The rod knock never even got worse. Those acl race bearings are no joke.
So i decided it was time to get the totaled 93 back up and running. reworked the front end, made a custom solid steel tranny mount, and it was finally ready for an engine to go back in. So i pulled out the original motor for it out of the closet. It had around 200k on it so far. Dropped the pan and checked the rods, no play, bearings were still okay. Got a new head gasket and ordered some arp studs for it.
The bottom end is original and the valve train is original as well. Everything else has been replaced on it at some point in time.
Got the engine in and everything ready to rock.
So it took me about a week to get the fuel dialed in just right, playing with the maf, fuel pressure and safc to get some good 10's during full boost. Got my fuel setup just right so it started to take over dd duties again. Ran into some overheating issues. Played around with that for the next 2 weeks before i figured out it was a timing issue. Ignition timing was way to aggressive. Got my timing right and my overheating due to detonation went away. about another 2 weeks later i switched my timing method and set it up to run constant static timing. So now she's set no more issues.
So now my goal was to make out the 390's. I wound up getting about 12 lbs of boost out of them. DD'd it like that for the next few months. Got tired of 12lbs and decided it was time to go bigger. Put in some 450's and upped the boost to 15. My clutch started to slip. Ordered a ebay 6puck.
Now this thing took forever to break in. At around 4k miles it finally stopped slipping during full boost.
Now my goal was always 15psi of boost....but injectors werent maxed yet and i wanted to see just how much this old engine could take. up it went again. got about 16-17 psi out of them, with spikes to 18 from time to time.
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iuSEtcuILrU]Eclipse 1.8 turbo 16 psi boost.3gp - YouTube[/ame]
So quiet a few months went by with me dd'ing it like that. I've honestly almost never have to do anything to the car. Except adjust the tune just about daily, since the slightest change in air temp produces a big change in my a/f ratios. The only major issue i ever had was my fuel line connecting the pump to the hanger would burst every few months. But i finally put in a better line and haven't had issues with that in a long time.
Anyway i got bored with the 450's so i started looking for some bigger injectors. So at the end of January i traded some parts for a set of evo 560's. Got those in and upped the boost again. Got it set for 20lbs now.
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4RNyrTLFg1k]1993 Eclipse 1.8 turbo 20psi - YouTube[/ame]
Middle of march it developed a really bad miss during normal driving. Turned out that one of the wires for my tps was barely making a connection.
Anyway turbo has been on for a little over 20k now. Last time i did a compression test it was still almost perfect, 180 across the board +/- 3 psi. Turbo still has zero shaft play.
The stock cam is really the weakest link in the setup right now. Its dead by 5krpms, and i dont get full spool until 4k. So right now im working on a new manifold that will hopefully improve my spool up time. I also have a reground cam waiting to go in that will be good all the way to the rev limiter of 6.5k. Megasquirt is also on the list of things to get, but that probably wont happen anytime this year.
So for now im just going to keep dd'ing it and see whats the first to go, the engine or the turbo.
Initial build cost:
Turbo manifold, intake manifold, mustange tb, 390'cc, oil pan drain, afpr, $500
machine work to fix warped flanges on intake $40
225 hp fuel pump $50
safc neo $175
sidemount, ic piping, bov $125
14b turbo , j pipe, down pipe, o2 housing, stock wastegate actuator $170
t3 to mitsu turbo flange adapter, external wastegate block off plate $70
aem uego $180
Boost gauge $25
Total cost about $1400
Safc tuning sucks. Anyone that wants to turbo their 1.8 save yourself the headache of having to figure out ignition and fuel tuning and just go megasquirt.
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