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the1cancer

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I am looking to build an engine that is able to produce 800+hp. I was thinking for the top end : Bronze guides, dual springs and titanium retainers, stainless valves, HKS cams 264 intake and 272 exaust, adjustable cam gears. For the lower end: knife edged and balanced crank, Eagle H rods, Wiseco 9:1 pistons, ARP studs, balance shaft eliminator, aluminum radiator, tube exaust mani, and evo b16g turbo.

high flow water pump, and fuel pump, fluidyne radiator, and 550cc injectors.

Ok guys do your thing and tell me if this will work and if not what needs to be different. :talon:
 
the1cancer said:
I am looking to build an engine that is able to produce 800+hp. I was thinking for the top end : Bronze guides, dual springs and titanium retainers, stainless valves, HKS cams 264 intake and 272 exaust, adjustable cam gears. For the lower end: knife edged and balanced crank, Eagle H rods, Wiseco 9:1 pistons, ARP studs, balance shaft eliminator, aluminum radiator, tube exaust mani, and evo b16g turbo.

high flow water pump, and fuel pump, fluidyne radiator, and 550cc injectors.

Ok guys do your thing and tell me if this will work and if not what needs to be different. :talon:

So you're taking a fully built, race prepped motor and slapping a b16g on it? You might apex 400whp on that turbo, why build the motor for 800?
 
Yeah, you would think you are aiming to build a race motor. Why not use 272 cams for both in/exh too? I would use different rods than eagles too, maybe crower. If you want to make big power you will need a big power adder, big turbo and maybe nitrous.
 
alright, so use the bigger intake cam and crower rods. what kind of turbo would be better then?? I just heard that the bigger turbos take to long to spool.
 
the1cancer said:
alright, so use the bigger intake cam and crower rods. what kind of turbo would be better then?? I just heard that the bigger turbos take to long to spool.

You can run a stock bottom end and run a b16g flawlessly. If you are looking to pull all the power you can out of that turbo, get cams, intake manifold, and call it a day. the b16g isn't going to see much gains going from 264/272 to 272/272 or with larger valves, port work,etc. It just can't flow that much air.

Obviously bigger turbo's take longer to spool. What engine management you running? I think YOU need to learn something about your car before you undertake this project.
 
Not sure if this should be in this forum kind of sounds like a newbie Question, but 800hp is a mighty range to be aiming at. Your camshaft selection is a streetable set up. The big 16 is a stock turbo. Your set up is a good 350 to 400 hp start but even then 550cc injectors, not to mention custom porting, your restrictive intake manifold, intercooling, electronics. there are too many parts that you missed, I would suggest if you are looking for a parts list to get about 800hp, go to shepard's web site and take note of what he has in his car. :thumb:
 
the1cancer said:
alright, so use the bigger intake cam and crower rods. what kind of turbo would be better then?? I just heard that the bigger turbos take to long to spool.

Ever feel the need to stop banging your head against a bring wall? I do.....constantly...


Thread moved to the Newbie forum.


Neither a big 16g nor the EVO 16g will give you 800 hp. Do you have any concept of how much 800 hp is?

Do this. Go build yourself a nice 400 crank hp engine and make it live for at least a year. By then you will know exactly what it will take to DOUBLE the horsepower you are making then.

Summation: 800 is a shitload. Unless you plan on racing professionally, 400 is not a bad goal to shoot for for a street machine.
 
800hp is a lot

For that you would need:
Crower or stronger rods
Forged Pistons
2.4 stroker kit(to make it easier to spool turbo)
Upgrade retainers,valves,springs
Upgrade all bolts
Port & multi-angle the head
High HP oil pump
Aftermarket Intake Manifold
70mm throttle body
Full T4 or T88 style turbo
100hp NOS shot
Tial Wastegate or somtething that handles 28-35psi

That's just the engine

Cooling:
Aftermarket oil cooler, fans, radiator
Huge FMIC w/huge pipes

Engine Management:
Microtech, haltech, motec( stand-alone system)

Ignition:
MSD or stand-alone integrated

Fuel:
255hp intank
Venom or holley outer pump
Upgrades fuel Rail
Full regulator system and fuel lines

All of this maybe won't come close to 800hp but you get the idea
 
Tevenor said:
Ever feel the need to stop banging your head against a bring wall? I do.....constantly...


Thread moved to the Newbie forum.


Neither a big 16g nor the EVO 16g will give you 800 hp. Do you have any concept of how much 800 hp is?

Do this. Go build yourself a nice 400 crank hp engine and make it live for at least a year. By then you will know exactly what it will take to DOUBLE the horsepower you are making then.

Summation: 800 is a shitload. Unless you plan on racing professionally, 400 is not a bad goal to shoot for for a street machine.


I was just talking about the engine, not about the rest of the car. thats why all you see is engine parts and nothing else
 
the1cancer said:
I was just talking about the engine, not about the rest of the car. thats why all you see is engine parts and nothing else
We don't have a "I'm dreaming/drunk/stoned/wishing" forum, so he moved it here.
 
when u make 800 horse out of a 16g... I think pretty much everyone will bend over backwards and let you smack them around. Until then... try to keep it running and don't rice it out...


even 11 second cars are only making 500-600 horse... so what you need is to buy another engine build 2 400whp engine... then stick them one for the front wheel 1 engine for rear wheels... then you can have your 800 car with a 16g....



LOL :thumb: have fun
 
Unless your profile isn't updated, you have a basically stock car with a clutch/flywheel combo. If you are dead serious about all of this, call up some shops and tell them that you want to build an engine that can handle 800hp. Better yet, call this guy. I'm pretty sure he could tell ya what ya need. :thumb:

http://www.shepracing.com/sr_dragtalon.html

Pretty much any turbo that is capable of pushing 800hp in a single turbo application will have a huge spool time. You might drive it once a month on the street. One question for you: What are your goals with this car? Are you shooting for an E.T.? Or just a high horsepower trailer queen?
 
LIke Tevenor said.

First make your car have 400hp then see what you want to do.

This is just speculation upon speculation.
 
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