6 bolt swap 93 talon tsi AWD

[monkee-TSI]

the swap will soon begin but i need to know a few things first, example my car is a 1st gen body with a 7bolt previoulsy in it.

1. will the wiring be any different?

2.will i have to move anything? starter ext.

3. please pardon my noobness.

ANY help would be helpfull

themain thing that gets my is the wiring harness is it any different>

 

[skatershawn]

well im currently doing a 6 bolt into a 93 DL which came with the 1.8L N/A
i had to replace the wiring harness and ECU cause i needed them to be a 91-94 Turbo

But i do know that you would have to replace the
Cam Angle sensor
Thottle body
TPS
PowerTransistor
CoilPack
and ICS

Because the 90's are completely different from the 91-94's

Other then those parts you should be Good!

 

[monkee-TSI]

thanks any thing else that maybe tricky? like the clutch? and will my 7bolt head fit on a 6 bolt block?

 

[BogusSVO]

thanks any thing else that maybe tricky? like the clutch? and will my 7bolt head fit on a 6 bolt block?

yes it will with a little mod, the head bolt holes have to be reamed for the larger 12mm head bolts of the 6 bolt 1g block

http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/newbie-forum/341028-4g63t-head-oil-port-mod.html

http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/cylinder-head-short-block/341885-oil-port-mod-2-4g63t.html

 

[monkee-TSI]

so upon surfing the site i come across information, i guess there was two generations of 7 bolt motors and the one i got does not have the crank walk issues as the 2nd gen being mine is a first gen, so im wondering if it would be better to swap anyway or just rebuild.
the 1g 7bolt uses narrower rods and smaller bearings.. couldn't i just upgrade toa differient set of rods? just exploring my options any suggestions are certainly welcome all this stuffis confusing me thanks

 

[talondave]

Just get the 6bolt, there is nothing that you have to mod! The head will bolt up, the clutch will bolt up every thing is pretty much the same. I swaped a 6bolt in my 93 tsi so im telling you will be fine.

 

[monkee-TSI]

okie dokie ill see what funds i can pll together

 

[joe sobo]

the sensors and all wiring is the same. also, there is no difference in the 1g heads' whether it is on a 6 bolt or a 7 bolt

 

[talondave]

One thing you will need is a 6bolt flywheel!! witch you should already know.

 

[Mr PopUps]

the sensors and all wiring is the same. also, there is no difference in the 1g heads' whether it is on a 6 bolt or a 7 bolt

Yea, i didnt want to be the first to contradict Mr. Slow Vehicle Owner.

 

[talondave]

Yea, i didnt want to be the first to contradict Mr. Slow Vehicle Owner.

Who are you trying to insult??

 

[monkee-TSI]

please no arguing. thanks for the info so all i need is a 6 bolt crank and flywheel? this is new information to me. also i did not know the heads on the 1g aree the same.

 

[Mr PopUps]

please no arguing. thanks for the info so all i need is a 6 bolt crank and flywheel? this is new information to me. also i did not know the heads on the 1g aree the same.

No. You need the entire bottom end. Then bolt your head on it. Nothing 6 bolt or 7 bolt is interchangeable on the bottom end.

 

[monkee-TSI]

getting a parts car tomrrow. its a 91 lazer everything good but head and turbo i figure thereis my bottom end right? what rods should i run?