93 tsi 6 bolt swap

[lzertrbo]

ok so i have had tons of electrical issues in my laser rs. and so i am buying a tsi that spun a bearing, it doesnt have an engine and mine is good so i am going to need help on the process can some one give me a list of what i should do first when pulling the motor, i will post pics as soon as the tsi gets here

 

[Spoolin4Ever]

I had a 93 with a motor swap; it's pretty straight forward, I think it's a direct swap! Pull the old engine out, put new one in the same way! Hook everything up they way you pulled it!

I would put new timing stuff on it while engine is out of cars cause it is easy to get to, unless you just did it.

 

[lzertrbo]

ok, i was thinking of maybe doing the rings

 

[deerhunter0881]

well if you are going too the rings, mite as well do everything. 93-94 Eagle Talon Turbo 2.0 4G63T DOHC 16V Engine Kit:eBay Motors (item 300340758943 end time Oct-20-09 13:46:13 PDT)

it is not your year but one kit will be for you just search for it. They are preety cheap if you want a stock rebuild too start freash and the moter is all ready going too be apart. good luck.

 

[Spoolin4Ever]

Here is your oem rebuild parts:
4G63T Mitsubishi 2.0 DOHC Turbo Engine Rebuild Parts

Why do you want new rings? How many miles on yours? How is the compression?

 

[regulator213]

you may even want to consider doing a balance shaft removal. And if not then DEFINITELY change the BS belt. And of course the timing belt.

 

[Spoolin4Ever]

you may even want to consider doing a balance shaft removal. And if not then DEFINITELY change the BS belt. And of course the timing belt.

YES, mine has the BS removed, I would have said the same thing, but I got used to assuming everyone already has done that or knows to do it.

It's a very good idea to do that if you can. Especially since the engine will be out anyway.

 

[lzertrbo]

k thanks, can someone explain how to do the bs removal and post pics

 

[lzertrbo]

ok i am running 100psi in cyl1 110 in cyl 2 120 in cyl 3 and 105 in cyl 4

 

[slinarez25]

Thats not very good..

It's supposed to be 180 in all cylinders.

 

[Spoolin18]

Thats not very good..

It's supposed to be 180 in all cylinders.

Thats B.S.

Standard for a turbo is 164psi, 121psi is service limit and 14psi is max difference between cylinders.

1.8 engine is 185, 2.0 nt is 192.

 

[Spoolin18]

ok i am running 100psi in cyl1 110 in cyl 2 120 in cyl 3 and 105 in cyl 4

That is unacceptable numbers.

 

[Spoolin18]

YES, mine has the BS removed, I would have said the same thing, but I got used to assuming everyone already has done that or knows to do it.

It's a very good idea to do that if you can. Especially since the engine will be out anyway.

I wouldn't use the stubby shaft. Use the one from AMS. Too many horror stories from the stub.

 

[Boost_Addict_88]

ok i am running 100psi in cyl1 110 in cyl 2 120 in cyl 3 and 105 in cyl 4

Time for a rebuild, sir.

 

[lzertrbo]

i thought so is it going to matter if i just do the rings?? money is tight on this project and i still owe 400 on the shell

 

[Spoolin18]

i thought so is it going to matter if i just do the rings?? money is tight on this project and i still owe 400 on the shell

I would not just do rings.

 

[lzertrbo]

i am trying to find a kit that has pistons rings and bearings for the 6 bolt

 

[Spoolin4Ever]

i am trying to find a kit that has pistons rings and bearings for the 6 bolt

Hmm..Yeah might as well do the pistons, rings, inspect the bearings too while you are in there. Does it have good oil pressure?

partsdinosaur.com is excellent!

4G63T Mitsubishi 2.0 DOHC Turbo Engine Rebuild Parts

mitsubishiparts.com is also good

Those are the 2 I use most along with forced performance for little things here and there.

 

[Spoolin4Ever]

Wow only about $150 shipped for the pistons and rings unreal man.

Subtotal $129.00
$11.69
Tax $0.00
Total $140.69


I wonder if yours will be need to be bored? best wait to find out before you actually purchase the pistons, huh?

 

[Sp1kE]

Putting a engine from a 90 into a 93 will give you a handful of electrical obstacles.

90 is a bastard year.
plugs for the following will not be a direct fit:
TPS
Cam sensor
coil pack
transistor pack
Cruise control.

The throttle body is completely different aswell.
and when you swap to the 91+ TB, the fuel rail will then be in the way of the TPS. so a 91+ fuel rail will be required.

 

[Spoolin4Ever]

Putting a engine from a 90 into a 93 will give you a handful of electrical obstacles.

90 is a bastard year.
plugs for the following will not be a direct fit:
TPS
Cam sensor
coil pack
transistor pack
Cruise control.

The throttle body is completely different aswell.
and when you swap to the 91+ TB, the fuel rail will then be in the way of the TPS. so a 91+ fuel rail will be required.

Very helpful info.

Well the good news is he has you to help him online, and those parts are pretty cheap used.

Oh yeah, sorry I thought it was more straight forward, mine is a 91, and I missed that yours is from a 90.

Well you should have the parts in the TSI anyway for most of it, if it has the old engine.

You want to see at least about 140 PSI with a 1G engine (7.8 psi) Mine is about 150-155 across the board.

 

[lzertrbo]

let me get this straight i hve a 91 turbo laser and i should have all of those parts will they work???

 

[Spoolin4Ever]

let me get this straight i hve a 91 turbo laser and i should have all of those parts will they work???

how many cars do you have?

Pulling an engine from what car and putting into what car?

But anyway, a 1990 model has some different parts on it here and there as mentioned.

 

[lzertrbo]

i have 3 a 90 laser rs many a 91 laser rs auto and a 93 talon tsi
so would the parts from the 91 work?? and i am taking the engine out of the 90 rs to put in the 93 tsi

 

[Spoolin4Ever]

Looks like you should have the parts you need, depending on what parts on the cars??

But yeah.