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Is that a stroked 4g63 or a different block. just wondering here as I have a friend throwing away a starion so he can put a 350 in it. Might be worth getting the motor for the ghetto car i will be making 450hp on less than $5000
 
BAH nm i don't feel like doing the 2.0-2.6 swap. but just out of curiosity has anybody done it?
 
Originally posted by crankbender
BAH nm i don't feel like doing the 2.0-2.6 swap. but just out of curiosity has anybody done it?
No Buschur doesnt have a Starion with a 2.0 and a glide in it that won the Shootout. TOPIC!!!
 
Originally posted by rdrkt
Never weighed the car. I need to find some place local that I can do that.

You planning on getting the most out of that 56 trim or are you just biding your time until you can pull off one of those T4 "Secret" turbos that Shep and Sean Glazar have? I guess the sky is really the limit at this point for ET's because you're pioneering new DSM territory here. Have you planned to get a new driveshaft and are you still on stock center differential too? (If you answered this before, I apologize).
 
Originally posted by RuBiCaNT5X
You planning on getting the most out of that 56 trim or are you just biding your time until you can pull off one of those T4 "Secret" turbos that Shep and Sean Glazar have? I guess the sky is really the limit at this point for ET's because you're pioneering new DSM territory here. Have you planned to get a new driveshaft and are you still on stock center differential too? (If you answered this before, I apologize).

There is plenty left in Dave's setup. There is no need at all for him to go with a larger turbo. He has a very conservative tune, and isn't running that much boost. If he turns the boost up another 3psi bumps the timing up 1 degree, and tunes for 11.8:1 AFR, he will hit 600whp.

Damn I love benchracing. :p
 
Originally posted by Ben K
There is plenty left in Dave's setup. There is no need at all for him to go with a larger turbo. He has a very conservative tune, and isn't running that much boost. If he turns the boost up another 3psi bumps the timing up 1 degree, and tunes for 11.8:1 AFR, he will hit 600whp.

Damn I love benchracing. :p


The people want 700whp!! Heheheh...
 
Originally posted by RuBiCaNT5X
You planning on getting the most out of that 56 trim or are you just biding your time until you can pull off one of those T4 "Secret" turbos that Shep and Sean Glazar have?
I called Ben to just inquire about a bigger turbo perhaps an AGP63 and he called me a stupid knoob and told me that he wont sell me anything till I get off my bi*** ass and run a mid 10. At that point they may or may not give me an AGP sticker and acknowledge me as a customer OMG :laugh:

Actually I have a bunch of little simple mods in the works. We have to see. I think a 3.5in exhaust will be worth a healthy bit of HP at this point. Jon at Broadway Performance offered to make me an exhaust I just have to see about my exhaust manifold and a few other small things. The goal is to be making all sorts of power so I can get kicked out of the East Coast SO on my second pass :shhh:
 
Originally posted by rdrkt
I called Ben to just inquire about a bigger turbo perhaps an AGP63 and he called me a stupid knoob and told me that he wont sell me anything till I get off my bi*** ass and run a mid 10. At that point they may or may not give me an AGP sticker and acknowledge me as a customer OMG :laugh:

Actually I have a bunch of little simple mods in the works. We have to see. I think a 3.5in exhaust will be worth a healthy bit of HP at this point. Jon at Broadway Performance offered to make me an exhaust I just have to see about my exhaust manifold and a few other small things. The goal is to be making all sorts of power so I can get kicked out of the East Coast SO on my second pass :shhh:

Hopefully you give Shepard a run for his money at Norwalk in August.. Keep up the good work, man! :thumb:
 
Originally posted by rdrkt
I called Ben to just inquire about a bigger turbo perhaps an AGP63 and he called me a stupid knoob and told me that he wont sell me anything till I get off my bi*** ass and run a mid 10. At that point they may or may not give me an AGP sticker and acknowledge me as a customer OMG :laugh:

Actually I have a bunch of little simple mods in the works. We have to see. I think a 3.5in exhaust will be worth a healthy bit of HP at this point. Jon at Broadway Performance offered to make me an exhaust I just have to see about my exhaust manifold and a few other small things. The goal is to be making all sorts of power so I can get kicked out of the East Coast SO on my second pass :shhh:


dude if i see your car at the East Coast shootout, I'M TAKING LOTS AND LOTS OF PICS.
 
I have been following the progression of this car for quite sometime now.You are part of the reason I even went with a 2.4 bottom.

My only question is in your tuning. How long did it take you to find that "sweet spot". I know you are running a Haltech, but do you think DSMlink V2 will allow enough tuning to duplicate if not exceed what you have accomplished?
 
:cool: I must say Dave I keep falling over you're threads and blam you seem to give me and im shure alot of the other members hope of aquiering or goals and aspirations . So any ways how much of the success are you atributing to the bottom end??


Im shure stroking it definitally gives you a needed edge in the low end department, thus giving you some free room to spacifically think about top end . Come to think about it with that type of tuning you could sky rocket you'r mph , interesting.


Hmm if by any chance you do decide to go with nos ( future) it would definitally give you what you would need to redeem you'r sixty foot times. Any ways are you'r internals stock , sorry I checked your profile but nada , and last but not least is you'r motor fully ported??

Ahhhhh dont mind me im just trying to figure out whats in store this upcoming shoot out. Well good luck , and you'r goals arent that far just a few proper tweeks away.

:thumb: ;)
 
Originally posted by 91TSiGuy
Care to elaborate on what you know of this? :)

Yeah not to pirate a topic but I would really like to know what Shep is planning on doing to shave 1.5s off of his ETs.
 
Originally posted by Revolution
So any ways how much of the success are you atributing to the bottom end??
I would with confidence say that you could make the same amount of hp and perhaps the same amount of torque on a cheapy Eagle/Weisco setup. The nice thing about this setup is how quickly the power comes on. If you take a look at the curves they are flat and they come on early. Its not often you can find a 4 cylinder that makes damn near 500lbft of torque yet has a nice 3k powerband.

Originally posted by Revolution
Any ways are you'r internals stock , sorry I checked your profile but nada , and last but not least is your motor fully ported??
From the profile Magnus 4g64 (Ross/Pauter). As for the head I have a stage 2 head from BJs cylinder head but the valve springs are still stock
 
Originally posted by talonted_one
My only question is in your tuning. How long did it take you to find that "sweet spot".
Since we used Wes’s map for the base it was actually really easy to get WOT tuning taken care of. I would say that it only took a few hours of street tuning.

Originally posted by talonted_one
I know you are running a Haltech, but do you think DSMlink V2 will allow enough tuning to duplicate if not exceed what you have accomplished?
I don’t know why you think you could get superior results over a full standalone? I will first off say that I really don’t know anything about the DSMLink. I would think that as long as you have COMPLETE control over your timing you should be fine. I would imagine the real difficulty would be all that airflow through a 2g MAS. It wasn’t designed to meter or flow that much air. I would think the best combo would be a Link coupled with a MAF-T. That way you have almost all the benefits of a full standalone without taking that last leap.
 
Oh, crap, sorry, I ment mid-low 8's, not 7's! :(
My people are real good friends with him. For example, when he blew his intercooler and intake manni appart at the shootout, they were in my guy Ken's garage that night welding crap back together. We are all in the same area here in Cleveland
I mentioned it befor, but it is worth saying it again, when he made his 8.7 pass, he had 60%, yes 60% blowby as indicated by the blowby test conducted on that motor a fdew days later. So in other words, he went 8.7 on what most would consider a bad motor.
Who's da man!?
 
Originally posted by coltboostin
Oh, crap, sorry, I ment mid-low 8's, not 7's! :(
My people are real good friends with him. For example, when he blew his inthercooler and intake manni appart at the shootout, they were in my guy Ken's garage that night welding crap back together. We are all in the same area here in Cleveland

Big difference:D
 
Originally posted by coltboostin
Oh, crap, sorry, I ment mid-low 8's, not 7's! :(
My people are real good friends with him. For example, when he blew his intercooler and intake manni appart at the shootout, they were in my guy Ken's garage that night welding crap back together. We are all in the same area here in Cleveland
I mentioned it befor, but it is worth saying it again, when he made his 8.7 pass, he had 60%, yes 60% blowby as indicated by the blowby test conducted on that motor a fdew days later. So in other words, he went 8.7 on what most would consider a bad motor.
Who's da man!?


sorry about being a lil off topic, but i will just say again, congrats on the numbers dave, but i thought i read somewhere that having low compression kinda works out well when having serious serious amounts of boost going into the engine. i kno it sounds kinda weird but if i am totally wrong, i apologize and someone correct me.
 
Originally posted by Black95TSIawd
i thought i read somewhere that having low compression kinda works out well when having serious serious amounts of boost going into the engine.
In general yes low compression ratio pistons CAN be benificial in high boost apps But having a low CR motor is VERY different than having a high leakdown or having your compression be BAD.

Ok all Shep stuff in a new thread. I love bench racing about Shep as much as the next guy so lets have a mod put all of it in its own thread so everyone can see it and respond.
 
Originally posted by rdrkt
Ok all Shep stuff in a new thread. I love bench racing about Shep as much as the next guy so lets have a mod put all of it in its own thread so everyone can see it and respond.

Hey, I wanted to talk more about Shep since there's nothing impressive about your slow ass car.

Asshole:D
 
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