2in1 Question - 95 Eclipse

[iEMPIRE]

I'm buying a Eclipse RS 95 for 700$ nothing wrong with it, my boss is selling it to me because of a Reposession (Im a repo man) that capitalone denied taking back. It has 167k miles in it, and I wanted to get a new engine, but did not know it had a DSM in it.

Do Stock Eclipses have DSM ?

Also, where can I find a website that officer performance parts that will allow me to style my engine? Such as this picture :

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I want to do that soo bad!!

Let me know!

Thanks.

(Admins, I've searched and found no relevant responses in query.)

 

[antlip]

Are you asking if stock eclipse motors are called DSM's?

 

[absolute_DSM]

Welcome to the board.

DSM = Diamond Star Motors

I guess you could say it has a DSM in it. But normally we all just call Eclipses, Talons, and Lasers (T/E/L) DSMs, as in the whole vehicle in general.

Most auto parts stores have the colored loom if thats what youre asking for.

Just an opinion, but more people will notice your car on this board if you stick to engine modification and not so much "what color all the things are in your bay". Just my .02!

Anyone notice that IC in the pic is fake? Fun!

 

[antlip]

The engine bay just looks like its full of blue wire loom. The head lights look like you will have to take them apart and paint them. You will need to heat them up in an oven to warm up the glue and pull the two sides apart. Then after all the work is done, reheat them in the oven so the glue is plyable and put them back together.

I also noticed the intercooler pipe goes to the firewall.

 

[iEMPIRE]

It has no modifications, that's why I did not post anything. I've spent the last 3 weeks, 4 hours a day reading this board and learning about cars. As soon as I get it, I'll be postnig more, and hopfully have a nice tuner car.

I'm new to the race/auto scene, and appreicate the warm welcome. I've always had an american car, I guess it's time to give Japan a go.

Add:
I'll be buying a 4G63T engine for 1,600 40,000 mi on it. Deal or no Deal? Professional Install, or learn to install?

Appreicate the help. The questions will get less dumber over time.

 

[iEMPIRE]

Add:

http://cabletiesandmore.com/wireloom.html?gclid=CK6yh-DQpYoCFRk3gQodqG63pQ

The engine heat wont melt that? What material is wire loom made of? (Should be my final dummy for the night.)

 

[b00st3d]

It has no modifications, that's why I did not post anything. I've spent the last 3 weeks, 4 hours a day reading this board and learning about cars. As soon as I get it, I'll be postnig more, and hopfully have a nice tuner car.

I'm new to the race/auto scene, and appreicate the warm welcome. I've always had an american car, I guess it's time to give Japan a go.

Add:
I'll be buying a 4G63T engine for 1,600 40,000 mi on it. Deal or no Deal? Professional Install, or learn to install?

Appreicate the help. The questions will get less dumber over time.

Ok, I'll play the devils advocate here... If you spend $1600 for a 4g63t, you will be wasting your money. The '95 RS come with a 420a motor, which is NOT interchangeable with a 4g63. The cost of fabrication is simply not worth it to make one fit either. Your best bet would be to plan on building the 420a, or looking for a different car.

 

[kenamond]

It has no modifications, that's why I did not post anything. I've spent the last 3 weeks, 4 hours a day reading this board and learning about cars. As soon as I get it, I'll be postnig more, and hopfully have a nice tuner car.

I'm new to the race/auto scene, and appreicate the warm welcome. I've always had an american car, I guess it's time to give Japan a go.

Add:
I'll be buying a 4G63T engine for 1,600 40,000 mi on it. Deal or no Deal? Professional Install, or learn to install?

Appreicate the help. The questions will get less dumber over time.

DSMs were a joint effort between Mitsubishi and Chrysler/Plymouth/Eagle (hence "D"iamond (for the ) "S"tar (for the ) "M"otors, so it's only half Japanese .

You can't just drop a 4G63 into your car and have it work. You also need many other parts (turbo, intake, exhaust, ECU, etc.). I'd do my homework on this before buying that motor.

 

[kenamond]

Add:

http://cabletiesandmore.com/wireloom.html?gclid=CK6yh-DQpYoCFRk3gQodqG63pQ

The engine heat wont melt that? What material is wire loom made of? (Should be my final dummy for the night.)

The exhaust system is the only part that gets hot enough to melt those looms, and the exhaust has heat shields to keep you from melting everything under the hood.

 

[iEMPIRE]

DSMs were a joint effort between Mitsubishi and Chrysler/Plymouth/Eagle (hence "D"iamond (for the ) "S"tar (for the ) "M"otors, so it's only half Japanese .

You can't just drop a 4G63 into your car and have it work. You also need many other parts (turbo, intake, exhaust, ECU, etc.). I'd do my homework on this before buying that motor.

I guess so. Can you do much to a 420a?

 

[b00st3d]

That depends on your budget. If you're willing to spend the $$$ 400hp is attainable.

 

[bushy]

I didnt even think RS's had 420a's...

 

[b00st3d]

I didnt even think RS's had 420a's...

It was the only motor available in a 2g that wasn't a 4g63

RS - 420a
GsT / GsX - 4g63T

 

[MrBoxx]

For all your BASIC DSM QUESTIONS

For everything else you wanted to know about DSMs

Short answers:
-Putting a 4g63 engine into a car that's equipped with a 420a engine is not a worthwhile use of your time, money, and effort. Instead, you can turbocharge the 420a using a Hahn Racecraft turbo kit (or other reputable brand), keep it NA, or the old stand-by, which is sell it and buy a GST or GSX.

-Any decent auto parts store will have basic dress-up items like wire loom, silicone hoses, etc. Take a trip through an Autozone, Advance Auto, Checker, NAPA, etc. and see what they have. Also, if you ask nicely, they may show you the big catalogs they keep behind the counter full of fun shiny stuff.

-There's a specific 420a newbie forum on DSMTuners that may be better suited to answer some of your more specific questions about your engine and what you can do to it.

Welcome to Tuners. Good luck.

 

[iEMPIRE]

For all your BASIC DSM QUESTIONS

For everything else you wanted to know about DSMs

Short answers:
-Putting a 4g63 engine into a car that's equipped with a 420a engine is not a worthwhile use of your time, money, and effort. Instead, you can turbocharge the 420a using a Hahn Racecraft turbo kit (or other reputable brand), keep it NA, or the old stand-by, which is sell it and buy a GST or GSX.

-Any decent auto parts store will have basic dress-up items like wire loom, silicone hoses, etc. Take a trip through an Autozone, Advance Auto, Checker, NAPA, etc. and see what they have. Also, if you ask nicely, they may show you the big catalogs they keep behind the counter full of fun shiny stuff.

-There's a specific 420a newbie forum on DSMTuners that may be better suited to answer some of your more specific questions about your engine and what you can do to it.

Welcome to Tuners. Good luck.

Appreciate it, fully.

Appreicate the prompt responses as well. I think i'll build the 420a.

 

[beating4g63s]

Do Stock Eclipses have DSM ?


priceless just priceless....

 

[TSG59_Steve]

It was the only motor available in a 2g that wasn't a 4g63

RS - 420a
GsT / GsX - 4g63T

That's not true either, the rs spyders have 4g64s in them.

 

[beating4g63s]

That's not true either, the rs spyders have 4g64s in them.

hard tops came with rs and gs with the 420a
gst gsx came with 4g63t

spyders came in two models gs with the 4g64
and gst with the 4g63

they never came with a rs model spyder.

 

[Locke]

-There's a specific 420a newbie forum on DSMTuners that may be better suited to answer some of your more specific questions about your engine and what you can do to it.

That would be here http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=14

And we generally think that performance alone is sexy. For all your non-performance colorful stuff see http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=12.

Have fun with your DSM.

 

[TSG59_Steve]

hard tops came with rs and gs with the 420a
gst gsx came with 4g63t

spyders came in two models gs with the 4g64
and gst with the 4g63

they never came with a rs model spyder.

Yeah, my bad... typo. I'm typing with one hand, so I just kinda blew through it.

 

[PieEyedPiper]

If you're buying it for $700, clean it up and fix it up then turn around and sell it for a few grand.

Save for a turbo model.