2G Front SubFrame Bushing Options?

[Artago]

Anyone know what my options are if I want non-solid front subframe bushings for my 95 AWD TSi?

Cheers

 

[talon3394]

If you're not looking for a performance upgrade then try a mitsu dealership for some OEM bushings.

 

[bduran1220]

^^true but I kno there's a billet bushings for the AWD rear Subframe....so that would be cool to get even if its not for performance, still a nice upgrade.

 

[Paul@RTM]

If you're not looking for a performance upgrade then try a mitsu dealership for some OEM bushings.

OEM bushings aren't available separately, they're considered part of the subframe.

 

[bduran1220]

Yes you can there "engine cradle front bushings" under Front suspension.
There like 15 bucks each OEM MSRP....pressing them into the Subframe is the another story, then there's the stoppers too.

6x of each for the whole set.

4 front bushings
2 rear bushings
6 stoppers


Source of info
1999 MITSUBISHI ECLIPSE Parts - Mitsubishi Parts | OEM Mitsubishi Parts | Genuine Mitsubishi Parts

 

[Artago]

Thanks all. Follow up question: Should I bother doing them at all? I heard/saw it was a pain in the ass to get the old ones out. Basically have to burn them out.

Would the old bushing still be ok? Then look and feel solid to me. How do I test them to see if they need replacing?

Thanks.

 

[bduran1220]

If the Subframe is rusty id change them really soon. = tons of work
But still not as bad as the front Lateral or compression arms, those bushing really suck!!!
I've replaced them 6 times, and still counting!!!!!!

 

[99gst_racer]

I heard/saw it was a pain in the ass to get the old ones out. Basically have to burn them out.

They come out easily with a hydraulic press. I wouldn't use any other method.

 

[subi_this]

oem from the dealer did the trick on my car

 

[98Spyder_GS]

Are these prone to go bad at a certain mileage or should you just visually check for wear/tear? I'm at 130k on my Spyder and would like to know more info on these also. Thanks!

 

[Artago]

If the Subframe is rusty id change them really soon. = tons of work
But still not as bad as the front Lateral or compression arms, those bushing really suck!!!
I've replaced them 6 times, and still counting!!!!!!

I just bought a whole new set of arms so I wouldn't have to deal with it.

They come out easily with a hydraulic press. I wouldn't use any other method.

I don't have one

oem from the dealer did the trick on my car

What did they cost?

Are these prone to go bad at a certain mileage or should you just visually check for wear/tear? I'm at 130k on my Spyder and would like to know more info on these also. Thanks!

This is what I'd like to know. Mine don't look bad at all. Just wondering if I should replace them at all.

 

[99gst_racer]

I don't have one

Only $125 at HF: 12 Ton Shop Press

Or hit up any Semi truck repair shop. They all have one. I'll bet there's a few shops with one within a 10 minute drive.

 

[Artago]

Only $125 at HF: 12 Ton Shop Press

Or hit up any Semi truck repair shop. They all have one. I'll bet there's a few shops with one within a 10 minute drive.

For sure. Do you recommend replacing the subframe bushings while I have it out?

If so, should I go OEM? Know where I can buy them?

 

[99gst_racer]

For sure. Do you recommend replacing the subframe bushings while I have it out?

If so, should I go OEM? Know where I can buy them?

I honestly know nothing about the OE bushings in regards to if they are available by themselves and how easy they are to press in. The one and only time I've replaced the bushings, I pressed in aluminum replacements.

Check the conditions of your when you have it pulled. If they are dry cracked and tearing or crumbling, then you'll probably want to replace them.

 

[bduran1220]

I honestly know nothing about the OE bushings in regards to if they are available by themselves and how easy they are to press in. The one and only time I've replaced the bushings, I pressed in aluminum replacements.

Check the conditions of your when you have it pulled. If they are dry cracked and tearing or crumbling, then you'll probably want to replace them.

I knew there was aluminum bushings for AWD rear Subframe, but the front I don't know
I'd would definitely buy a set of aluminum or brass bushing, just like the shifter bushings

 

[99gst_racer]

I knew there was aluminum bushings for AWD rear Subframe, but the front I don't know
I'd would definitely buy a set of aluminum or brass bushing, just like the shifter bushings

These were the ones that I used in the front: 2G Solid aluminum front + rear subframe +diff - DSM Classifieds

 

[Artago]

These were the ones that I used in the front: 2G Solid aluminum front + rear subframe +diff - DSM Classifieds

I was thinking of getting those but I think they may be overkill for a street car & daily driver. How did the affect your ride? Did it cause the cause to vibrate more? How about suspension? Did it tighten it up?

I was also thinking of getting these sway bars:
https://www.extremepsi.com/store/product.php?productid=19033&cat=1406&page=1

What do you think Paul?

Tomas

 

[black_gst]

I was thinking of getting those but I think they may be overkill for a street car & daily driver. How did the affect your ride? Did it cause the cause to vibrate more? How about suspension? Did it tighten it up?

I was also thinking of getting these sway bars:
https://www.extremepsi.com/store/product.php?productid=19033&cat=1406&page=1

What do you think Paul?

Tomas

I'm not sure what Pauls experience was but generally people have reported that the front have very little impact on vibrations and sound but seriously tighten up the front end!

heres what Andrew had to say about them after installing them in his FWD time attack spyder

One thing, we did test chassis torsional stiffness. Results were notable improvement of 16% which is marked since we are talking about a car with an existing roll cage.

http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/blogs/gixxerdrew/2479-getting-ready-race.html

the rear subframe bushing may add some vibration but solid rear diff bushings do add vibration and drive train noise, a bit of a trick with the rear subframe bushings is to use your factory top rubber spacer instead of the supplied solid aluminum and that leave a rubber barrier between the subframe and chassis and will help deaden some noise and vibration

 

[99gst_racer]

I was thinking of getting those but I think they may be overkill for a street car & daily driver. How did the affect your ride? Did it cause the cause to vibrate more? How about suspension? Did it tighten it up?

The ones I installed weren't for me. That k-member belongs to Brian (snowborder914) and I'm pretty sure he hasn't installed it yet.

I was also thinking of getting these sway bars:
https://www.extremepsi.com/store/product.php?productid=19033&cat=1406&page=1

What do you think Paul?

I bought those same sway bars about a year ago. They still look nice sitting in a box in my basement. Hopefully I'll get around to installing them sometime next year.