Resolved 1GA LED Headlight Conversions

[SouthIndy_Talon]

Hello all,

For those of you that have upgraded from the standard halogen lights on the 1ga pop-up headlights, how did you go about doing so?

I am wondering has anybody used LED conversion headlights from like Grote or anything like that? Any feedback is greatly appreciated as I am trying to figure out all the options out there.

Thanks!

 

[SouthIndy_Talon]

Morimoto is in the process of releasing a set of 4x6 led lights. They look very nice and based on HR review, they are very bright and the price for them is really good. If I lived somewhere where snow accumulation on headlights wasn't an issue, I would buy them, but I am not too confident on the led bulbs ability to produce enough heat to melt the snow. Here is a link: https://www.morimotohid.com/morimoto-sealed4-4x6-led-housing?quantity=1

I am looking into those as well. However, I think you will still have to tackle the issues I stated above to get them to work.

I run Morimoto bulbs on my daily and really like them a lot

 

[CrackedDSM]

Bumping this up instead of starting a new thread. Anyone else have any experience or results? I honestly just want to go with an H4 conversion housing and use a regular bulb but can’t seem to find those anymore.

 

[Dericsh]

Bumping this up instead of starting a new thread. Anyone else have any experience or results? I honestly just want to go with an H4 conversion housing and use a regular bulb but can’t seem to find those anymore.

I can’t answer your LED question, but I’ve had this link saved for a while.

Hella H4 Headlight Upgrade 1990-1991 DSM

These replace the stock sealed-beams with replaceable-bulb housings that accept standard H4 bulbs. They come with excellent Hella 55/60 (low/high) watt bulbs, or you can swap in any other H4 bulb. The price is for TWO of the kits shown above, for left and right. Note that the harness shown above...

machv.com

 

[1990TSIAWDTALON]

I would like to convert mine over also, like I have my 92 Talon, 86 Camaro and 04 Silverado
This site tells what bulbs are needed

1990 Mitsubishi Eclipse Light Bulb Type Chart - ModifiedLife

The 1990 Mitsubishi Eclipse headlight bulb size is a H4666 bulb or LED bulb. Use our 1990 Mitsubishi Eclipse headlight bulb size chart to find the headlight…

www.modifiedlife.com

But I like the way these look. (kinda PRICEY tho)

Eagle Lights 4627B-2 LED 4 x 6 Headlights - Double Pack

Eagle Lights 4 x 6 LED headlight. Wired as an industry standard H4. The low beam utilizes 5 LEDs for low beam and the combined 15 LEDs for high beam. 6 LEDs on either side function as a DRL light that can be wired separately. Optional dual mounting assembly is available in RH or LH 4 x 6 LED...

www.eaglelights.com

 

[lenny 15]

Has anyone tried the Holley retrofit LED sealed beams?

 

[SouthIndy_Talon]

I’ve seen them, but never tried them personally. I can’t decide if the issues I was experiencing with the lights I tried before are due to the lights or if there is something weird with how the headlight circuits are wired in these cars (or if there is just an issue with my car).

Hopefully someone else tries in the future and shares their thoughts

 

[Havoch]

I run H4 housings in my 1Ga but it's good to see some options out there.

 

[DiSeM]

I have done the Hella H4 Conversion and put in HID on a previous car. The one I am currently driving had a similar setup but with LED bulbs. They were not Hella lens, but they were some after market lens with a 9006 bulb fit in place. Unfortunately the previous owner also hacked up the harness to put in 9006 connectors.

I cut them back out and re wired OEM pigtails into the car. Then I installed my new LEDs which are the Grote 94401-5. I faced the exact same trouble as in this thread so I called their support. According to the technical support at Grote they do not accept a reverse polarity, so I have a polarity reverser on the way as per their suggestion to try and get these bulbs working.

I will update in a few days when it gets here and I give it a go. I really hope to get these working as I spent close to $200 per bulb and by the time I am getting to install them they are way out of the return period.

 

[SouthIndy_Talon]

Please share back what you find out and what polarity reverser you use if it works. I wonder if you are going to run into the same issue I didn’t with the lights being sim once both LED lights were installed

 

[chrisman287]

Looking at this picture try to wire them like this:

Blue wire to high beam ground
White wire to low beam ground
Black wire to low beam positive

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[DiSeM]

Still waiting on the kit to get here, also ordered a h4 relay harness to try also, which is just an alternative to the polarity switch method suggested by Grote

I will keep you posted

 

[DiSeM]

So the polarity reverser has yet to show but a h4 relay kit showed up today so i tried it first. I’m more drawn to this design as it is fused however there is also more wiring with it. It only utilizes one connection also. But it works! And I love these headlights!

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Sorry that some of the pics are blurry I was driving .

Here is a link to the kit I purchased. https://www.walmart.com/ip/H4-9003-...ed-Wiring-For-Ground-Triggered-H605/486747919

 

[steve]

Using relays to reverse the polarity is how I would do it. The factory wiring pulls the chosen filament to ground so just use that to switch the battery voltage on to the light.

Depending on how much current you want to switch you can use 2 or 4 relays, one (or a pair R & L) for the low beams and another (set) for the high. This is pretty much the same as wiring up the fuel pump rewire. Feed both the relay coil and common switched inputs battery voltage and use the factory switched ground to control the coil.

 

[CrackedDSM]

So the polarity reverser has yet to show but a h4 relay kit showed up today so i tried it first. I’m more drawn to this design as it is fused however there is also more wiring with it. It only utilizes one connection also. But it works! And I love these headlights!

Bumping this up to ask you, can you give a little more details as to how you wired this to the harness and to the bulbs? I may do this exact thing if it worked out for you since I have to do some rewiring anyway.

 

[DiSeM]

Link isn't working but I purchased this kit online:

True Mods H6054 H4 LED Headlight Wiring Harness [Negative Switched Conversion] [Fused] Universal H4 Head Light Relay Harness Kit for 9003 H5054 H6054LL 6014 H6024 6052 6053 Subaru Toyota Jeep Headlamp​

With this product I didn't have to do any rewiring other than routing this wiring kit from battery and a ground to the passenger headlight switch, then over to my driver headlight.

The polarity reverser showed up but I never even tried using as this solution was a success.

 

[CrackedDSM]

Link isn't working but I purchased this kit online:

True Mods H6054 H4 LED Headlight Wiring Harness [Negative Switched Conversion] [Fused] Universal H4 Head Light Relay Harness Kit for 9003 H5054 H6054LL 6014 H6024 6052 6053 Subaru Toyota Jeep Headlamp​

With this product I didn't have to do any rewiring other than routing this wiring kit from battery and a ground to the passenger headlight switch, then over to my driver headlight.

The polarity reverser showed up but I never even tried using as this solution was a success.

So you plugged each headlight harness into that kit, then from the relays into the headlights themselves? Basically, wire it like the picture shows?

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Like that?

What throws me off is it shows a single plug "to vehicle lighting harness". There's two plugs, one for driver and one for passenger. Which one do you plug it into?

 

[DiSeM]

What throws me off is it shows a single plug "to vehicle lighting harness". There's two plugs, one for driver and one for passenger. Which one do you plug it into?

Yeah that part was kind of strange to me too. I plugged my passenger side one in cause it was closer to battery and then ran the longer wire over to the driver side, but I imagine either way would be fine.

 

[CrackedDSM]

Yeah that part was kind of strange to me too. I plugged my passenger side one in cause it was closer to battery and then ran the longer wire over to the driver side, but I imagine either way would be fine.

Oh, so you only plugged in one connector from the OEM harness? If so, that works great for me as I only have the passenger side plug for some idiotic reason.


So plug the one connection into the passenger side OEM harness, then just run both wires to the headlights themselves, and they work?

Sorry for so many questions, just wanna get rid of these idiotic 1 watt HID conversion headlights that have gigantic ballasts and don't work. Lol.

 

[DiSeM]

Yeah that is a win win for you then you get both headlights from the same side!

 

[CrackedDSM]

Yeah that is a win win for you then you get both headlights from the same side!

Very much so. I appreciate it for sure!

Now to decide if I want to just go with a LED/sealed beam type unit, or go with a conversion housing. Decisions, decisions.

 

[FIBA M - EC17PSE]

Jumping in here as I want to convert the white Talons headlamps as they SUCK!!!!! The owner hates them and pretty much refuses to drive at night because of how much they suck!

This wiring kit looks good and seems simple.

Buying a retrofit housing kit! Hows one mount them? Is it just a case of make a new surround kr they use the oem surround to hold it in place? I seen a few 4-6 led kits from $250-400 in bi xenon format / led set. Having never done an older retrofit before did not know how tricky it is to mount to the oem popups.

Thanks everyone and for this post! Its been great info thus far

 

[CrackedDSM]

Jumping in here as I want to convert the white Talons headlamps as they SUCK!!!!! The owner hates them and pretty much refuses to drive at night because of how much they suck!

This wiring kit looks good and seems simple.

Buying a retrofit housing kit! Hows one mount them? Is it just a case of make a new surround kr they use the oem surround to hold it in place? I seen a few 4-6 led kits from $250-400 in bi xenon format / led set. Having never done an older retrofit before did not know how tricky it is to mount to the oem popups.

Thanks everyone and for this post! Its been great info thus far

You mount the housing and bulbs on a retrofit just like OEM headlights. For example if you were to use a retrofit housing with some H4 LED bulbs in them, you'd put the bulb in the housing, then mount the whole assembly like it was a stock headlight. Held in by the little metal bracket.


If the owner doesn't want to deal with retrofit stuff and harnesses, I can vouch for my current headlights in the Talon. They're sealed beam models that use the factory plug, and are the brightest H4666 bulbs Sylvania offers for Halogens and I can see pretty well at night. They're nowhere near as bright as LEDs or my HIDs in the Edge(obviously) but the brights are pretty bright, and the regular beams are enough. The color/temp is nice too. I don't have the greatest night time vision, so if they were the stock headlights I'd be in the same boat. Couldn't or wouldn't drive at night with them.


But I've used the Hella H4 conversion housings in the past on past 1Gs and was very satisfied too. If you get LEDs of any kind though you'll need the harness/kit that was mentioned a few posts up or they won't work properly. Even if you get the complete/"sealed" LED bulbs, you'll still need a harness because of how the headlights on a 1Ga DSM function.

 

[FIBA M - EC17PSE]

You mount the housing and bulbs on a retrofit just like OEM headlights. For example if you were to use a retrofit housing with some H4 LED bulbs in them, you'd put the bulb in the housing, then mount the whole assembly like it was a stock headlight. Held in by the little metal bracket.


If the owner doesn't want to deal with retrofit stuff and harnesses, I can vouch for my current headlights in the Talon. They're sealed beam models that use the factory plug, and are the brightest H4666 bulbs Sylvania offers for Halogens and I can see pretty well at night. They're nowhere near as bright as LEDs or my HIDs in the Edge(obviously) but the brights are pretty bright, and the regular beams are enough. The color/temp is nice too. I don't have the greatest night time vision, so if they were the stock headlights I'd be in the same boat. Couldn't or wouldn't drive at night with them.


But I've used the Hella H4 conversion housings in the past on past 1Gs and was very satisfied too. If you get LEDs of any kind though you'll need the harness/kit that was mentioned a few posts up or they won't work properly. Even if you get the complete/"sealed" LED bulbs, you'll still need a harness because of how the headlights on a 1Ga DSM function.

He had them converted to a Renault housing when it was imported and im thinking its H4 as the plugs a push on 3 pin from looking into the back. I need to check to confirm this is a fact and not my eyes looking into it in a small gap. I do see it had phillips bulbs inside with a blue and chrome tip.

I know he would want them kind of factory looking i think vs dark units (even though dark units are menacing to view and amazing to look at) but will show him both. I think modern units vs the older units would be way better anyway.

Cheers for getting back on this thread. Hopefully I can add to it if we do go down one of these routes

 

[CrackedDSM]

He had them converted to a Renault housing when it was imported and im thinking its H4 as the plugs a push on 3 pin from looking into the back. I need to check to confirm this is a fact and not my eyes looking into it in a small gap. I do see it had phillips bulbs inside with a blue and chrome tip.

I know he would want them kind of factory looking i think vs dark units (even though dark units are menacing to view and amazing to look at) but will show him both. I think modern units vs the older units would be way better anyway.

Cheers for getting back on this thread. Hopefully I can add to it if we do go down one of these routes

As was sent to me, there are also THESE as an option. They look like OEM headlights so they aren't the blacked out units, but they're LEDs. They're also expensive. And still require the relay harness above.

HOWEVER, it is an option. Otherwise if you already have adapter housings, I'd just see what bulb is in it and toss an LED version w/ the harnesses in it and call it done.

 

[FIBA M - EC17PSE]

As was sent to me, there are also THESE as an option. They look like OEM headlights so they aren't the blacked out units, but they're LEDs. They're also expensive. And still require the relay harness above.

HOWEVER, it is an option. Otherwise if you already have adapter housings, I'd just see what bulb is in it and toss an LED version w/ the harnesses in it and call it done.

$99 seems rather cheap for an LED unit. i know its per unit but good LED's cost a good amount so as long as they are good quality that's a decent price.

I been looking at the retrofit store which has a good few options so now i have all this info we can discuss his options and see where he wishes to go

Cheers for the links Cracked