1G, Auto, GTX45R, Kiggley, ETS, English, and 40+psi

[eclipsed4seed99]

Cant wait to see them both hopefully next week in Yakima at the shootout battling it out. Regardless of the outcome its going to be a good show for the crowd when those two line up.

I know Im not scared.

 

[dsmtnr]

great car! i can't wait to see the numbers.

 

[habitatguy187]

Where's the FVCK is defiant? Someone needs to clean this thread up, it hurt my head trying to read through it.


Sweet looking build though man and good luck. Also the forward facing manifold design has been building up steam here in Indy for the past 2 years.

 

[DSMTyson]

Dude, he hasn't been here for a while..

 

[Car Cannibal]

What rpm does this car launch at with the Gt45 and 120 shot?

 

[CD96gsx]

3500-3800 rpm? Is what I believe he said? I saw him run @ Spokane he made a few passes I saw a 9.056 @159mph the day that he made the ff manifold and installed it, they were still working on the tune that night. That's been a little over two weeks ago now. I in no way speak for him or claim to know everything about his setup but I believe it's going to be running just a tad bit faster on the 23. Time will tell. But I know it's going to be fun to watch! Nothing better than a good old fashion rivalry. And from the looks of these post on here, it seems to me that these two fit that bill!

 

[TSimage]

Jeff has built and paid for everything on his car this season except-

The transmission (Metro, thanks Mark), The turbo kit (ETS, Thanks JR and crew), and the final welding on the new cage (thanks Nathan).

I 100% support the ER guys and wish them the ebst but this has to be the WORST argument of all time..

He paid for everything, except for the very things that make the car what it is.. hahaha..

Like $10K worth of stuff

But other than that, lets get this thread back on topic.

 

[eclipsed4seed99]

Id really like to see Trevor haul this cars ass down to Sacramento for the race on the 30th-31st.

 

[TSimage]

Me too, I'll be there as well... It seems like there will be 20+ DSMs attending alone so it should be interesting. I'll be there with my Truck. I'm racing my Lightning possibly on the 30th which is a Chevy vs Ford competition... If they have a truck class I'm in, other than that I might just hit the TNTs.

 

[LucasEnglish]

I 100% support the ER guys and wish them the ebst but this has to be the WORST argument of all time..

He paid for everything, except for the very things that make the car what it is.. hahaha..

Like $10K worth of stuff

But other than that, lets get this thread back on topic.

So 10 grand worth of essential parts vs a 60k race car. There is still a lot of Jeff's money in the car.

 

[slowgsr]

So 10 grand worth of essential parts vs a 60k race car. There is still a lot of Jeff's money in the car.

I agree, all the little details add up faster then anyone who hasnt built a car can believe

 

[a1320eclipse]

Deleted...not gonna get involved in a bunch of drama that isnt mine

 

[LucasEnglish]

Really??

I am very sad that this happened tonight.

The car has never been tuned on the new combo and has been running at 3000ft. This was the 1st time at 1000ft . (Turbo in Forward facing twin scroll setup. )

Do you think I did something? Because I did not.

We have no data logs or anyway to even tune the car since the AEM is messed up and wont let us down load logs.

I know Jeff has rubbed you the wrong way and I am sorry but I am not Jeff and try my best to help with your car but our hands are tied with no data logging info.

I cant help it if you keep doing the same thing over and over if we are so reckless with a 1000+ hp car.

Things talked about and known.

-Gnd problems
-Known AEM ECU with problems that does not log right or let us up load tunes right
-never sinking timing after HG jobs and playing with cam sensors
-Questionable machine work on the surfaces that I have seen in the past


Jeffs car has had it many problems that we have worked through. On our 8.63 pass in Sac with the HG leaking on N20 it looked similar to yours, lost rod bolt on Gorden rod, Many transmissions. Jeffs car is down to a science now and yours needs to get to a science also.

So to try and blame me for this when we have not had a chance to tune it again is crazy.

Do you really think if I wanted to hurt your car on purpose I would have helped as much as I can with the many phone calls per week and my countless hours on the dyno, Letting you use my shop to work on your car ETC....

 

[LucasEnglish]

I kinda of think this could be from a faulty TPS or bad wiring. I saw tonight that the tps does not have a clip which could cause a problem.

When Trevor Went to 1st stall he said and we saw what seem to be the car shifting into 2nd gear at the line. The only way the AEM would do this assuming its not a internal problem is loss of TPS signal. Since the gear choice is based off of. RPM VS TPS.

What is real dangerous is I have the idle fueling based off of TPS. Pulls 20% at low throttle. So if the car did lose the TPS signal mid pass it would go deathly lean and cause this.

Anyway just one idea in why. Having a log would truly tell us if this was the case or not.

 

[danl]

a1320eclipse, you either need to quit "helping" your friend or have him pull the car from Lucus's shop. All you are doing is angering the people who are trying to help you do what they have already done. So either bite your tongue and work through it like a man or do it on your own.

You don't seem to understand that race cars are built to do one thing very well and that is BREAK! If you can't afford to break especially when sorting it out then you should have never gotten into it.

 

[e85_4g63]

I'm sure a lot of people are interested in the old top mount manifold that came off the car. Could you please post here what your looking to get for the manifold (price without shipping)? Also it appears that it uses a single Tial 44mm wastegate, is that true?

 

[danl]

Obviously you have no idea how many times this car has broken. This should probably have been taken care of in PM's but this has been goin on for more than a week or 2. And if theres one thing i can say about Trevor, its that he loyal. He believes in Lucas and i can appreciate that...but theres something wrong that Lucas isnt able to find or deal with thats definatly tuning related and its costing Trevor every time it happens.

How would you feel if you spend the money to have a head fully ported and polished and setup, and then the first time out it does what happened in the pic...probably not gonna be very happy.

And i dont care if after this Trevor doesnt want me to help on his car...honestly...if the same thing is gonna keep happening, im fine with being booted off the crew. but im not a douche that runs around with a tire gauge. I know what im doing with these cars so i feel my input is important.

But thanks for your input man.

To address a couple of your points.

I had a head that I explicitly told the assembler to check valve spring installation height and he did not. I surged the valves and destroyed the whole head first time I took it to 9000 RPM. Parts happen and I moved on.

You may think you are helping him out but you are not. You are angering the shop that he is continuing to use to try to sort this car out. Would you put your best work forward if you were treated like you are treating Lucus?

If you are not a douche with just a tire gauge then why are you not spotting these issues before they become failures? Why are you letting a car go down the track that can't capture logs? Did you personally check the integrity of the engine wiring harness? When was the last time you synced the AEM and set the base timing? Did you do any 60' test passes, move on to 330' testing, then half track testing BEFORE planning on a full 1320 pass? Are you reading plugs to verify that the datalogs (which you can't even capture) are matching up with your data.

Or are you piecing the car together, going to an event (when you should be at a T&T) and crossing your fingers she'll hold together for a glory pass so you can post up how well the car ran on the internet?

Deleted...not gonna get involved in a bunch of drama that isnt mine

Really?

You were so hardcore in your post slandering Lucus and now you want to just drop it? Sounds to me like somebody woke up this morning, pulled the racecar off the trailer, and found out that they made a silly mistake (probably that TPS plug was off). One hour ago you hell bent on slander and now your ready to shut your mouth?

You've burned a lot of bridges for yourself and your friend. I hope you realize that.

 

[TSimage]

So 10 grand worth of essential parts vs a 60k race car. There is still a lot of Jeff's money in the car.

I never said there wasn't and with a similar mod list and no shop backing I don't know where that $60K figure came from or anything close to it but that is a whole 'nother discussion that would be pointless to the thread .

I'm a supporter so no need to defend yourself, I simply stated his argument was a bad one. Which it was...

A majority of the site doesn't even have $10K in their entire car. That number was a low one at that and includes none of the other "benefits" of being a shop car that would double that number in a heartbeat.

Jeff has definitely put a lot into the car and it shows in how it looks and runs, 2 things I have seen personally and I have personally met you guys and sat down with you in both cars and bullsh*tted about things and think you're standup guys so don't take it as an attack or a bash. With that being said, It definitely matters being a shop car vs not. Comped $10,000-20,000+ or whatever figure you wanna put on it if it is $5,000 or $500. Its better than nothin..

But who the fk cares? thats neither here nor there, water under the bridge. The OP seems as though he wants this to be a Tevor vs Jeff thing? I say we let Trev speak for himself.

 

[icwicked]

Nice car and setup man!

 

[e85_4g63]

Would you please post the price of the T4 top mount manifold or something contact info for those that are interested. Thanks..

 

[a1320eclipse]

Would you please post the price of the T4 top mount manifold or something contact info for those that are interested. Thanks..

Give Trevor a call at 509-216-3283

 

[fst91dsm]

Im just going to put my .02 in and stay out of it.
- First, I believe Trevor and I agreed on this point last night at the race but for Lucas to do something to the car to hurt it, is not really going to happen, reason being, at the end of the day Trevors car is a FAST car with the English Racing name on the car, it would only help Lucas and his business (you know that thing that pays his bills and feeds his family) if the car went and stayed going fast.
- Second, this is a race car. Bad stuff hapens all the time. Again, something Trevor and I had talked about last night. I should know bad stuff happens, more then most with my old car!!
- Lastly and most important. Everyone is out there to have fun and just do what they like to do. Sure theres going to be stuff that gets said and little things done (usually on the forums), but in the grand scheme of things does it really matter.
Thats what I have to say about that.

 

[JohnTSI]

I never said there wasn't and with a similar mod list and no shop backing I don't know where that $60K figure came from or anything close to it but that is a whole 'nother discussion that would be pointless to the thread .

That figure is low if he paid labor to put the car together I can tell you not including broken parts or upgrades of replaced parts my car has 45k+ in hard parts including the price of the shell (that only being 2k). Small stuff adds up fast and you don't even realize how much you have spent til you add up receipts.

 

[AK Maniak]

Everyone needs to smoke a bowl and chill out shit happens

 

[91stocker]

So a shop puts the motor together and blows it up on the dyno? Id imagine they are liable for damages. Or did i completely miss whats going on here.