Your current car's weight???

[Phil1320]

Was: 2635lbs. with me and 1/4 tank
Will be in '09: 2450lbs.----no cage yet, still has factory gas tank/lines etc.
-no misc. holes drilled in sheetmetal or anything like that, dash still in car

fiber rear hatch/lexan, driveshaft shop alum driveshaft, no a/c. p/s, no flip up headlight motors/hinges/lids, wiring harness for headlights etc. all removed
10lbs wheels, all interior but dash....



Phil
90 talon AWD

ps- I'm about 226lbs.

 

[Black_Bullet]

Was: 2635lbs. with me and 1/4 tank
Will be in '09: 2450lbs.----no cage yet, still has factory gas tank/lines etc.
-no misc. holes drilled in sheetmetal or anything like that, dash still in car

fiber rear hatch/lexan, driveshaft shop alum driveshaft, no a/c. p/s, no flip up headlight motors/hinges/lids, wiring harness for headlights etc. all removed
10lbs wheels, all interior but dash....



Phil
90 talon AWD

ps- I'm about 226lbs.

Thats pretty light. Actually a AWD at 2600lbs with you in the car and you weigh 226 is rather hard to believe, but I wont doubt you due to your 14b traps, so i guess Ill pass on asking if this was actually weighed at a scale, or just guesses. So how much weight did the carbon fiber rear hatch and lexan remove?
Do you also have a carbon fiber hood as well? or what about power windows or heat under the dash? Light weight seat(s)? im assuming you have a manual rack...
I was always interested in the Alum driveshaft but its sooo expensive that it doesnt seem worth it...
Have you considered cutting out some of the flooring in the hatch, floorboards and replacing with sheetmetal?

 

[Ludachris]

So most of the weight on these cars are drivetrain, motor, suspension, and with the weight reduction some of you guys have done the interior and chasis probably arent that much.
And I agree about getting it as light possible despite weight bias.

I am going to set up to manual rack in the future, and I still have a little sound deadning I could scrape off behind the dash if I wanted to be more tedious, but Ive already done ALL the stuff you can do in lightening up the car short of cutting out metal out of the chasis or removing needed daily driving interior parts/equipment...

Though, I have been contemplating a lot lately whether I should remove all the heating stuff under the dash... I dont have A/C and can live w/o, but its kind of nice peace of mind to have that heating there, because it actually does get cold enough here to need it, especially when its 70 in the day time winter, and suddenly 40-50degs at night with wind, and when your not dressed for it, it sure can get pretty chilly, and early mourning late night even really cold... Idk yet if I should remove it. Does anyone know how much weight exactly that drops?

If this is your daily driver, you probably don't want to remove the heater - and it doesn't necessarily save you a ton of weight anyway. But then again, you probably won't want to do a lot of stuff you'd need to do in order to have a competitive car on the track.

However, if this car is a weekend car, then you can rip everything out. The best modification for a DSM that you want to take to the track is a second vehicle, preferably a tow vehicle.

If you're brave enough, the front bumper weighs a good amount and would be the perfect type of weight to remove, unless of course, you crash. I'm still hoping to be able to replace the front bumper (crash beam portion) with a lighter chromoly piece that will still function as a crash beam.

 

[Ludachris]

Was: 2635lbs. with me and 1/4 tank
Will be in '09: 2450lbs.----no cage yet, still has factory gas tank/lines etc.
-no misc. holes drilled in sheetmetal or anything like that, dash still in car

fiber rear hatch/lexan, driveshaft shop alum driveshaft, no a/c. p/s, no flip up headlight motors/hinges/lids, wiring harness for headlights etc. all removed
10lbs wheels, all interior but dash....



Phil
90 talon AWD

ps- I'm about 226lbs.

Phil, did you remove your crash beams front and rear? Man, my car's pretty well stripped. I'm having a tough time finding another 300-400 lbs I could shave off. I'd be ecstatic if I could get the car to 2600 without me in it. Then again, I think drag racers strip out a bit more - like door crash beams, front and rear bumper crash beams, smaller diameter lighter weight wheels, side glass, etc.

And post some photos of your car in the gallery already, will ya?!?!?! That goes for everyone that hasn't done so already. I'll make a point of updating some of mine as well.

 

[tsiboosted]

If this is your daily driver, you probably don't want to remove the heater - and it doesn't necessarily save you a ton of weight anyway. But then again, you probably won't want to do a lot of stuff you'd need to do in order to have a competitive car on the track.

However, if this car is a weekend car, then you can rip everything out. The best modification for a DSM that you want to take to the track is a second vehicle, preferably a tow vehicle.

If you're brave enough, the front bumper weighs a good amount and would be the perfect type of weight to remove, unless of course, you crash. I'm still hoping to be able to replace the front bumper (crash beam portion) with a lighter chromoly piece that will still function as a crash beam.

Dont remove the heater ??? Of course, you ould always move to a state where it never gets cold...*Cough* Florida ??? Just kidding Chris.

When we had the front bumper cover off of my car, I was looking at some pics of other options at front bumpers. As we were in another thread on here. Trying to figure out how to get some sort of "tubed" system in there and not the bulky OEM stuff. But of course, time and the all mighty dollar got in the way. Anyone want to sponsor the bumper on my car ???

I am intereseted to get my car weighed this season at tech next weekend. I do not have anything left in the car that does not pertain to it running properly. But adding a full cage did put some weight back in....But how do you offset your safety over weight you know? Some of the things I weighed when pulling all of the items out that weighed the most were things like the glass. Both the driver's and passenger side windows weighed allot. Also, all the power systems in the car. Sound deadening material. Power window units, rear windshield wiper motor. All the AC & heater items including the ducting as well. Airbags...Everything out of the dash and I mean everything....Except the gauge clusters. Which will be coming out as soon as I can get a Stack to go in there. All excess wiring, harnesses etc. Nuts and bolts that no longer had purpose. We went through the car and basically said, if it doesnt make the car run, its gotta go.

 

[Black_Bullet]

If this is your daily driver, you probably don't want to remove the heater - and it doesn't necessarily save you a ton of weight anyway. But then again, you probably won't want to do a lot of stuff you'd need to do in order to have a competitive car on the track.

However, if this car is a weekend car, then you can rip everything out. The best modification for a DSM that you want to take to the track is a second vehicle, preferably a tow vehicle.

If you're brave enough, the front bumper weighs a good amount and would be the perfect type of weight to remove, unless of course, you crash. I'm still hoping to be able to replace the front bumper (crash beam portion) with a lighter chromoly piece that will still function as a crash beam.

I dont have a front bumper, it was already pulled when I bought the car due to the FMIC.
But I left the rear in since its a DD. Im more worried about someone running into the back of me rather than me running into the back of someone...
When the cars not a DD anymore then id definitly consider pulling the back bumper.

i absolutely agree that the best mod of a DSM is a reliable 2nd vehicle. Thats actually what Im looking on saving up for starting the begining of next year as a few more things needed on this dsm have set me back this yr from doing so.

Dont remove the heater ??? Of course, you ould always move to a state where it never gets cold...*Cough* Florida ??? Just kidding Chris.

When we had the front bumper cover off of my car, I was looking at some pics of other options at front bumpers. As we were in another thread on here. Trying to figure out how to get some sort of "tubed" system in there and not the bulky OEM stuff. But of course, time and the all mighty dollar got in the way. Anyone want to sponsor the bumper on my car ???

I am intereseted to get my car weighed this season at tech next weekend. I do not have anything left in the car that does not pertain to it running properly. But adding a full cage did put some weight back in....But how do you offset your safety over weight you know? Some of the things I weighed when pulling all of the items out that weighed the most were things like the glass. Both the driver's and passenger side windows weighed allot. Also, all the power systems in the car. Sound deadening material. Power window units, rear windshield wiper motor. All the AC & heater items including the ducting as well. Airbags...Everything out of the dash and I mean everything....Except the gauge clusters. Which will be coming out as soon as I can get a Stack to go in there. All excess wiring, harnesses etc. Nuts and bolts that no longer had purpose. We went through the car and basically said, if it doesnt make the car run, its gotta go.

Man you live more North than I do, and you dont need a heater?
Honestly people dont think it ever gets cold in FL, but it actually does get cold enough here to want heat.
Me and one of my friends were just talking about this not too long ago. Maybe if I lived way farther south like West Palm beach or Miami then id definitly pull the heat but being here,
Ive been iffy about pulling the heat for a long time. I used to get up to go to work at 4am on my old job and in the winter time leaving the house it would literally be 30-40 something degs enough that it would be miserable driving the half hour to work without heat. What makes it so bad here is that the temp drop is sudden, it could be 80 degs in the winter during day and suddenly 50 at night and the rapid change ( especially when your not dressed for it) is what makes it feel so cold. I feel like I get sick more often here than when I was younger in Indiana.

 

[Phil1320]

Guys--

There are no bumper supports in the car. The hatch is fiberglass with lexan. I just got rid of my C/F hood in favor of my old fiberglass hood that I had a reverse scoop molded into.
Sparco seat and harness. Still have power rack but no pump and lines. Right now there are 10.6 lbs.(each) Racing Hart cp-035 16X7 on the car. It's the lightest 16" wheel you can find for the car....even a 15X7 Volk TE37 is only .2 lighter.
There is literally nothing in the interior except the dash/wheel/seat. Half of the metal on the bottom of the dash is gone as well. No door panels: no impact beams and passenger side door is fully gutted, driver door no beam but has roll up window. No mirrors.

That's the bulk of it and many things will make their way back to the car(power steering)when I retire it from the strip.

The car does make great power as well on the stock turbo:

16 psi 285 HP 290 TQ
21 psi 295 HP 337 TQ

Power to weight ratio is pretty good....

Phil1320

 

[Black_Bullet]

Guys--

There are no bumper supports in the car. The hatch is fiberglass with lexan. I just got rid of my C/F hood in favor of my old fiberglass hood that I had a reverse scoop molded into.
Sparco seat and harness. Still have power rack but no pump and lines. Right now there are 10.6 lbs.(each) Racing Hart cp-035 16X7 on the car. It's the lightest 16" wheel you can find for the car....even a 15X7 Volk TE37 is only .2 lighter.
There is literally nothing in the interior except the dash/wheel/seat. Half of the metal on the bottom of the dash is gone as well. No door panels: no impact beams and passenger side door is fully gutted, driver door no beam but has roll up window. No mirrors.

That's the bulk of it and many things will make their way back to the car(power steering)when I retire it from the strip.

The car does make great power as well on the stock turbo:

16 psi 285 HP 290 TQ
21 psi 295 HP 337 TQ

Power to weight ratio is pretty good....

Phil1320

Nice... What did cutting the metal on the bottom of the dash do?

 

[Grizzly Racing]

91 gsx

2830 without me.


Removed a/c, abs pump, rear wiper assy., spare tire, rear seats, alluminum front bumper, sound deadening, other misc items.

All plastic is still in car as well as the radio; all power doors and windows still in place.

 

[BootlegGreg]

3108lbs with me in and a battery box full of snap-on tools . No rear panelling, no a.c. or PS, no ac or fan assembly in the car, and no stereo.

 

[Phil1320]

Nice... What did cutting the metal on the bottom of the dash do?

Just eliminate a bit more weight and without glovebox and all it is overkill for rigidity.
Four of the main gold colored brackets are removed as well.
I've been pulling weight from the car since about 1998 so I couldn't possibly list everything I've done, but every tiny bit counts at my level of weight reduction.

Phil1320

 

[Ludachris]

Just eliminate a bit more weight and without glovebox and all it is overkill for rigidity.
Four of the main gold colored brackets are removed as well.
I've been pulling weight from the car since about 1998 so I couldn't possibly list everything I've done, but every tiny bit counts at my level of weight reduction.

Phil1320

So if you start doing some road course stuff Phil, you going to put the bumper supports back in?

 

[ivatu]

mine is like a million piggy pounds

 

[Phil1320]

So if you start doing some road course stuff Phil, you going to put the bumper supports back in?

Not sure yet, with the front mount on the car now I would have to get something custom
built. I would put the rear back in, but, I dont have them anymore. Yes, I would do my best to make the car as safe as possible rather than worry about the ultimate in light
weight. This car is my "baby" so I would rather not ball it up at a track day.....

I will be hitting Lime Rock on November 1st in my Forester XT, so I have been keeping up on my skills and will continue to. But, all in all, after the EVO and the Forester I will be anxious to get the talon out there.

Phil

pics are coming by the way! Hopefully this weekend I will have some up finally.

 

[larrykoren]

Im getting my AWD talon weighed today. Last time I weighed the car it was 2780 without me in it. Since then I have done a great deal of lightening. I have a side exit exhaust (only 3 ft long), no crash bars, the only thing in the interior is a drivers seat and the dash and center counsol. I removed the a/c but I still have heat. I am hoping for sub 2700 without me in it.

 

[larrykoren]

It ended up being 2660 without me in it and 3/8 tank of gas.

 

[Grizzly Racing]

no crash bars, I removed the a/c but I still have heat. I am hoping for sub 2700 without me in it.

How did you get the crash bars out?

How much did the A/C unit weigh after leaving the heater in place.

 

[Ludachris]

Im getting my AWD talon weighed today. Last time I weighed the car it was 2780 without me in it. Since then I have done a great deal of lightening. I have a side exit exhaust (only 3 ft long), no crash bars, the only thing in the interior is a drivers seat and the dash and center counsol. I removed the a/c but I still have heat. I am hoping for sub 2700 without me in it.

What series are you road racing with? The NASA group I run with won't allow a side exit exhaust unless it's behind the driver seat. I think SCCA is the same way, you might want to check the rules of your region.

 

[Red97Eclipseboy]

I just weighed mine last night. Without me inside, it weighed in at 2920. Not bad considering all I have done for weight reduction is A/C removal. No racing seats, (yet) full interior, no carbon anything and an Optima battery. That weigh in last night was also with a full tank, spare tire and my tool bag! I am very happy!

 

[squirley8888]

Dont remove the heater ??? Of course, you ould always move to a state where it never gets cold...*Cough* Florida ??? Just kidding Chris.

When we had the front bumper cover off of my car, I was looking at some pics of other options at front bumpers. As we were in another thread on here. Trying to figure out how to get some sort of "tubed" system in there and not the bulky OEM stuff. But of course, time and the all mighty dollar got in the way. Anyone want to sponsor the bumper on my car ???

I am intereseted to get my car weighed this season at tech next weekend. I do not have anything left in the car that does not pertain to it running properly. But adding a full cage did put some weight back in....But how do you offset your safety over weight you know? Some of the things I weighed when pulling all of the items out that weighed the most were things like the glass. Both the driver's and passenger side windows weighed allot. Also, all the power systems in the car. Sound deadening material. Power window units, rear windshield wiper motor. All the AC & heater items including the ducting as well. Airbags...Everything out of the dash and I mean everything....Except the gauge clusters. Which will be coming out as soon as I can get a Stack to go in there. All excess wiring, harnesses etc. Nuts and bolts that no longer had purpose. We went through the car and basically said, if it doesnt make the car run, its gotta go.

Even though my car is still a street car I went by this mentality in mind. Being a street car i thought it was best to leave the crash beams in the doors, still have the glass I'm debating on if I should run lexan in the rear or not. Rear Seats, All the tar/sound deadening material, Both Air bags, All Heater/ AC Components inc. HVAC controls and ducting, All audio equipment including wiring harness, all wiring for HVAC, Interior lighting, power doors/windows that isn't even equipped with my model, Front seats replaced with non-adjustable racing seats, all the plastic interior panels will go back so it will retain a somewhat stock look, ecu/fuse box brackets where removed, cut the bracing out of the hood. I have yet to get it weighed cause I haven't found a place with scales but will post up weight when I do.

 

[BayState300GT]

im planning on removing the front bumper support, most of the interior dash board and center console are staying), possibly my a/c im swapping in the seats for light wieght, non adjustable welded to the floor seats (drivers side will be welded) 12 point cage, im going to keep my heat, and whatever else i can remove for wieght

 

[Scrymerr]

3005lbs for 2g GST-AWD with 1/4 tank of gas. Weighed at local dump.

Notable weight savings: no ABS, CF hood, no spare tire, tools, windshield wiper resevoir, no cruise, no emissions. M/T.

 

[spoonman]

The weight of my FWD drag car is around 2000 or lighter it has not been weighted in a while, It is completely stripped in every way you can think of, with lexan windows, five gallon fuel cell, no interior at all, no front or rear crash bumpers, no exhaust just a down pipe, manual rack, skinnys in the rear and light slicks up front, 5lb aluminum seat, at the track I remove the rear calipers and rotors also. The only other DSM that I have seen that is as light as mine is Joe Bucci's Laser.

 

[pneumo]

1G AWD drag/street car. Currently at 2575.

 

[underradar92]

3160 with 1/4 tank and me or 150# of sand (same thing basically but, the sand may be a better driver) in the drivers seat.

I've really not done a lot of weight reduction other than gutting the hood, toss the front crash beam and tubular control arms. I'll be eventually tossing the rear seat (replacing it with carpet) and whatever stuff the cage will necessitate, plus race seats, that'll be about the end of it.

I figure I'll improve my lap times way more through seat time/fixing the washer behind the wheel than any weight reduction.