Why such an outrageous amount of $?

[blackmirage]

I got a quote today from someone in regards to rebuilding my motor. just back to stock. and they told me 6,000.00 WHY!?!??!! Thats outrageous. Or am I losing my mind? Somone with some insight please help. this was a shop.

 

[ROOKIE1]

I got a quot today from someone in regards to rebuilding my motor. just back to stock. and they told me 6,000.00 WHY!?!??!! Thats outrageous. Or am I losing my mind? Somone with some insight please help. this was a shop.

How much vaseline is included with that ? What all are they doing ? Removing engine from car , total rebuild (head and block ) reinstalling engine . Most shops rape you on labor . Engine only here . http://www.slowboyracing.com/shop.php?sid=&cat=2533

 

[kspharris]

If you pull the motor yourself there are shops around here that will do it for $650.00 and I know they do a good job. They build race motors that last. That was definatly without vaseline. I would not take it there.

 

[GsxProject]

It better be a 10-11 sec car after all that money spent!!!! Hands down...I prefer lube for that amount!!!

 

[blackmirage]

Well the shop is well known. and I called and told him, look the car is not running correctly now, told him what was replaced. and asked how much he would charge to tell me whats wrong. he said 60.00, plus whatever the part is to fix it.. (looking like the ECU) then I said ok, once we have that fixed so that we know the rebuilt motor will work once put all back together how much will you charge me to rebuild it STOCK.. no high performance nothing. just stock. and he replied with all the stuff that would have to be replaced and said.. its hard to say over the phone but about 6k sounds right. It aggravates me because they sell block and motor combos for less than that!!! I understand labor but S**T.... I have knowledge but not the kind to rebuild it myself. I was expecting 2-3.... I'm just aggravated. you guys know of any shops within driving distance to Clarksville, TN that are knowledgeable with DSM's?

 

[nightspeed87]

the car buisness is one of the most unhonest buisnesses in the world in my opinion.
People get charged rediculous amounts just for like fuel injection cleaning or simple stuff, so pulling an engine and rebuild its no wonder they wanted that much. Thats why a lot of ppl learn to do things theirselves including me.

 

[GsxProject]

Yeah I definitely second that above^^. There are decent shops out there but it's either one of two things: 1. You know someone for a hookup that would help you out greatly!! 2. If not in driving distance, purchase a chilton, start reading and get your hands a lil messy!!

 

[cburke23]

Yes that is RAPE, but sorry I would not say Slowboy eather..................

At the most I would thing maybe 2500, and that is if everything is done, like rings machine work all the lovein.

 

[blackmirage]

Ok, I dont mind getting my hands dirty at all. I would actually rather. because if you want something done right you have to do it yourself. the only thing that "scares" me about the whole thing is I've not done it before for one and two, taking something apart is easy, but knowing how to put it back together with the correct clearences and all is somewhat... difficult HOWEVER not impossible... I've got this haynes manual... I'm just going to do a search for the chiltons get it and read, read and do some more reading. and hope I dont break something.. If I do.. you will see me on DSMTrader ... That 6k , and you guys is all it really took to convince me to dive in and do it myself.. Thanks. !

 

[1gjosh]

Get a haynes repair manual. The dsm bible

 

[cburke23]

Good man, my first ever motor build was a 4G63 turbo 6bolt into a 2G. You feel so much better when your done. If anything goes wrong then you can fix it your self.

Just get all your parts together, get a good machine shop that knows a little about DSM's and get to work. Most of all take your time and do everything right the first time. I here way to many people saying "I did it, I don't have the money so I just re-used it" But, O you now have the money to do it again uh? good luck

 

[blackmirage]

I've got the haynes, but I dont much like it.. is the Chiltons better?

 

[Raph]

those kind of shops give mechanics like me a bad name..thumbsdown

maybe he thought you wanted original mitsu rebuild parts?

 

[FORMONTOYA]

I've got the haynes, but I dont much like it.. is the Chiltons better?

I personally don't like either.......to many discrepancies.

Get a shop manual instead:
http://www.ecanfix.com/~manualcd/
It's a much more thorough book to work from.

 

[FORMONTOYA]

those kind of shops give mechanics like me a bad name..thumbsdown

maybe he thought you wanted original mitsu rebuild parts?

I think the price was for a total restoration.

 

[blackmirage]

You know I really thought it was a good shop, I'm not gonna mention names, because I'm not here to bash anyone. I'm 8 hours away from this place so I CALL, maybe he just didnt think i was serious because I called.. so I got the annoyed mecahnic feeling and maybe that was the cause of the inflated price. But you know what. Their loss not mine. because I've got the money, and I'm sorry that they have that level of customer service. I expected more thats all.. Oh well, I'm done stressin bout it. I'll just do it myself.. thanks for the feedback.. I thought it was too high, but I can admit that I could be wrong.. In this instance... I WAS NOT! Thanks for the link on the repair manual... I'll be ordering that so I can have something to read on my extended stay in GA for work.

 

[jumpfroggy]

Yeah, I got a guy locally that was selling a fully built 6 bolt block for $1500, rebuilt stock head for <$500. There's lots of people selling used blocks off, a lot with work done to them. I'd look in that direction if you can find anything.

Don't get stressed out. Some of the shops are honest hard workers that do quality work. Others are just out to steal money from you (I've run into a few of those). They've got no control over you, take your money where you feel most comfortable. If you get a bad feeling (they give you horrible rates, they lie, give you conflicting information) then just run like crazy. Not worth the pain later.

 

[drivemusicnow]

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A bit to consider:

To pull, rebuild, and install an engine, including timing belt parts, new pumps, new pistons rods, machine work, head work, etc. You're looking at minimum 2 grand in parts/machining and At LEAST 8 hours labor to pull/install, and another 8 hours for the engine assembly. Figure their markup on parts is 15% minimum. At 100$ an hour (easier to do the math with) you're at 4 grand.

A shop that has never done either will charge book time which, I have no idea what it is, but may be up to double the above times. Also, the name on the shop does mean a lot as far as quality work.

Even so 6K is a bit outrageous considering you can buy a longblock for less than that. (although a crate motor from magnus is $11k :-0 LoL)

 

[Stainbox12]

Ahh.. thats why i love my country. My mechanic charges me 150-200 for a complete rebuild.. and there are cheaper ones around. I´ve spent no more than 500 for labour and parts. A reputable shop around here should not cost more than 1200 bucks including parts. I even bought a 4g63t engine around here for 500 bucks from the U.S. Labour costs are very expensive in the U.S. I´ve worked in call centers before serving american customers, i learned english at school, and i know as a fact that most americans are very lazy when it comes down to do their own stuff, like repairing a computer which is quite simple. Not to be offensive, but just the thruth of things. Since the economy is way bigger than in my country, and wages are bigger, people tend to pay for others to do things (in this case, labour) thats why you found so much latin people around in the U.S because we are used to this in our countries. Good luck with the rebuild anyways.

 

[Locutus78]

You had to of gotten a mad mechanic on a bad day. Do you have a local DSM board? That is how I found the shop I go to. They ROCK! Quality work and beyond fair prices. Formontoya knows who I am talking about.

 

[PieEyedPiper]

I've got the haynes, but I dont much like it.. is the Chiltons better?

I just picked up a chilton's a few weeks ago. Lets just say I'll be looking for a factory service manual in the near future. Chilton's is well..incomplete to say the least.

 

[kspharris]

Dude I didn't know that you were in TN. I would have told you about the shop that I was talking about, it is in Mt. Juliet. If you pulled the motor yourself it would save you alot. I can assist you no problem, just let me know, heck I could even rebuild it for you. Just let me know what you want to do or if you do not feel comfortable pulling the motor let me know and I will see if the shop will pull it for you. Be glad to help a fellow DSMer!

 

[v01dy]

so how much does it usually take for a rebuild? I'm thinking of getting a rebuild in the future.

 

[keeler]

WOW 6k is a gangbang rape, I had mine done for 2k by a reputable DSM performance shop in my area. I melted my #1 and 2 piston. If you can make a drive to Louisville Kentucky send me a PM and I can help you out a little bit, there are 2 shops here that are very big for the area and do great things.

 

[Defiant]

That sounds like the "we don't want to do this job" price. Common in the mechanic world.

It's worse when you tell Customer X that the heater core swap-out on his '83 Ventura will be $900, and he says, "Go ahead."

wotta pisser.