which fmic piping for a 2g with evoIII ?

[Mike_GSX]

Hi everybody,

i'm sorry, i know it's once again me with a question.

I am about to order a fmic.
I alredy ordered a ported EVOIII, EVOIII manifold, ported O2, and a 2g install kit.

Now, my question is: Do I now order the 2g fmic with the piping for a t-25? or do I order a fmic with the 16g piping?

or does the 2g installkit has nothing to do with the fmic-piping?

thanks

Mike

 

[RiceRocketDSM02]

Which FMIC are you buying? I dont think it matters if you have a 16G or a T25, Itll give you the same piping. Depending on which kit you buy, you might have to buy upper and lower inner cooler piping because it doesnt come wit the kit, like the GReddy Kit.

 

[Mike_GSX]

I think I go with a 10" ETS fmic.

http://www.extremeintercoolers.com/2g_10_5_kits.htm

do you think it is big enoff to support a ported evoIII?

So that means, I get the same piping, no matter if I run a t-25 or e evoIII.
I wanted to first mount the fmic and run it on my t-25 for about a month and
then I will mount the evoIII.

thanks

Mike

 

[2gGSX]

That intercooler is more than enough for that turbo, although there are cheaper and smaller alternatives as well. As far as piping, bigger piping will cause delays in spool but flow more. For an Evo III you don't need massive piping, so whatever comes with that kit should be fine.

 

[~laser_craver~]

ud go ahead and get a bugger one due to the fact that one day youll probaly want a bigger turbo and having a bigger intercooler means more cooling surface and that means colder air which means mire power...

 

[Pure92TSi]

That intercooler is plenty big enough even if you get a bigger turbo later.

 

[RoasT BeeF]

I would be a little leary of that IC.

"This is our complete 2g dsm kit , it includes our 10.5" bar and plate__tube and fin hybrid core intercooler , 2.5 piping all the way to the throttle body elbow and bolts to a 14b , 16g or t25."

That doesnt make much sense. The mitsu turbos require a J-pipe because of the "up-flow" design and how the outlet faces. The T-25 is a Garret turbo and is a "down-flow" turbo which requires no J-pipe. So how can it bolt to both? Also, it says "bar and plate__tube and fin" So which is it? Bar and plate or tube and fin?!

Id stay away from that thing and look at something else like the SBR, Extreme PSI or Greddy FMIC for your 2G.

http://www.slowboyracing.com/shop.php?sid=&cat=122

http://www.extremepsi.com/store/customer/home.php?cat=383

 

[DGajre777]

ETS, extremeintercoolers.com will send you the pipe that you need for you turbo setup.
This is the 10" kit with the J-pipe.

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If you want the 10" kit for the T25 or T28, you'll get the curved pipe to fit the T25 or t28. Please note that the intercooler on the pic below 7" and not 10.

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They have a bar and plate intercooler, a tube and fin intercooler and a hybrid bar/plate/ tube/fin intercooler - more info on cores...

Bar and Plate Intercoolers

Bar and Plate Intercoolers have long been the standard of the racing Industry. They allow great flow and efficiency , the only down side is they are heavier and less air gets to the radiator when they are used in a front mount application. The Bar and Plate units get their efficiency by using very fine internal and external fins. These fins can be as thin as .002" and can be louvered and staggered to aid either efficiency or flow. All of our bar and plate cores are engineered with the right balance of flow and efficiency in mind . The charge air ( internal ) fin pack is dense enough to allow superb heat transfer to the ambient ( outside ) fins , but not so dense as to allow back pressure in the turbo. The main feature of our bar and plate units is the internal fins are staggered to allow every air molecule to "scrub" the charge air fins , so they can easily carry the heat away to the ambient fins. Our internal fins are positioned in such a way so that the air does not turbulent or "tumble" too much to decrease flow. It is a constant zigzag motion that gets all the heat out of the charge air , but but because turbulence is not induced , the overall flow is exceptional. We recommend these units for those who want the max performance out of their intercooler , and don't care about an intercooler that weighs a little more.

Extruded Tube and Fin

Our extruded tube and fin intercoolers are the finest available. They feature an exclusive micro-extruded internal fin that allows these units to be the most efficient extruded tube intercoolers on the market. The advantages of an extruded tube intercooler are that they are light weight and they flow the most of any design size for size. The design is strait forward , the internal fins in these intercoolers are part of the tube , therefore the air flows straight through the core. The key to efficiency is getting every air molecule to "scrub" the internal fins. As the airflow is laminar ( in a strait line ) , only about 85% of the air molecules come in contact with the internal fins . This is why these units are a little less efficient than bar and plate units. This laminar flow is also why these units flow so well , as the air does not zigzag or tumble , it gets through the intercooler quickly. The other benefit of an extruded tube intercooler is that the round nosed tubes allow good airflow to the radiator , and as these units are less dense than bar and plate , they weigh less. An exclusive design to our units , is we use smaller tubes on our extruded units , because there is more tubes for a given size the efficiency really goes up. Our extruded tube units are the only units that come within 2% of the efficiency of bar and plate units. We recommend extruded tube units for those who need light weight and air to the radiator.

Hybrid Fin Core

When faced with the decision between bar and plate and tube and fin intercoolers , our Hybrid Core units feature the best of both worlds. These units have the fine internal fins of bar and plate , stuffed inside a round nosed tube , for good airflow to the radiator. These cores have very fine .004 thick internal fins normally only found in bar and plate units, stuffed inside an extruded tube with round noses to dramatically increase airflow though the core. The greater quantity of ambient air though the core allows for increased efficiency and more air to the radiator than bar and plate units of the same size. Also these tubes change in thickness for efficiency and durability. These tubes are .120 thick at the front to take severe rock damage, yet as they near the center of the core they decrease in thickness to .040, which allows greater heat transfer from the charge fins ( inside the tubes) to the ambient fins ( on the outside ). There is no chance of damage as the thin section is covered with the ambient fins. Another feature to aid efficiency is the internal fins are louvered and staggered which increases heat transfer area 4x over fins that run strait through the core as in other brands. The ambient fins are also louvered and staggered for greater heat transfer area as well. We recommend these units for those looking for a balanced intercooler , with good flow , good efficiency , light weight , and good durability.

http://www.extremeintercoolers.com/core_information.htm

 

[Flash]

Now, my question is: Do I now order the 2g fmic with the piping for a t-25? or do I order a fmic with the 16g piping?

If your getting a 16g then it only makes sense to get the piping for a 16g.

 

[CanadianTSi]

I have the ETS 10" kit and I love it, couldn't recommend it enough. Worked great with my Evo 3 and my 50 trim.

Get the piping for the 16g, the fact that you orderd the 2g install kit (which is not needed IMO) just means that you will have 2 J pipes, use the one that comes with the FMIC kit and sell the other.