which coilovers to choose

[coupe_nasty]

So ive narrowed my selection down to BC coilovers and DGR coilovers. Both are around $1000. Anyone have any input to either of these brands?

 

[Doubleot]

My megan racing coilovers have held up just fine, installed almost two years ago and driven threw a harsh utah winter.

 

[airmail96]

Honestly there is a guy running the BCs on DSMpurity and he says that he loves them, if you look around at the bimmer, 240, Mazda and VW forums they loves the BCs also. I got the DGRs for my car, mainly because I just wanted to try something different. I think the BCs are a reasonable choice though if you want something that has gotten decent reviews. What are your plans for the car?

 

[TofastForU_99]

Let us know which coilovers you are looking for I can shoot you a price on some different brands if you would like. We can get Koni yellows and source out some ground controls.

 

[coupe_nasty]

The only thing steering me away from koni's and ground controls is that i didnt want to have to mess with re-using the oem top hats. Id rather just have something i can switch right out in one peice.

And this car is only driven about once a week.

 

[NWHTanK]

Well RRE has thes upper plates for the 2g front and rear that accept 2.5 diam springs.

RRE Eclipse and Talon Index

 

[Trusteclipse307]

I ran a full Tokico suspension on one of my eclipses for a long time and really liked it.

 

[chasedardis]

Airmail96 how do you like the dgrs?

 

[Leonthefaded]

The only thing steering me away from koni's and ground controls is that i didnt want to have to mess with re-using the oem top hats. Id rather just have something i can switch right out in one peice.

And this car is only driven about once a week.

Definatly go for the the K Sports. They dont ride as rough as you might think, and performance wise they cherry! I'm running a set on my wifes 97 EK Coupe. From stock ride height to being slammed to the ground its very consistant all around. Cant beat the price either.

Plus they look sexy

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[jtmcinder]

Leon, please.

 

[Lofty]

In the defense of BC.

I haven't heard anything wrong with them.

Yes, I build other platforms, they tend to be a favorite in the x-chassis crowd.

 

[bmoha7321]

Really wish I had saved my money and bought some real struts. They are inexpensive, a improvement over stock and are durable but are severely limited. As soon as you try to go to a road racing or autocross kg weight rated spring you quickly find that the springs are well beyond the spec of the Toikikos. For racing... An absolute waste of money. Can't do it with them. If I had it to do over again, and I will, I'll do Konis with GC coilovers. Give the guys at GC a call. They won't hesitate to educate you... Without bashing other manufacturers... They have statistical data on all the other manufacturers.

 

[Leonthefaded]

Leon, please.

The K sports are a great set of coilovers

 

[danymuck]

Why not Tein SS? They are a bit hard but the best quality/price ratio.

 

[jtmcinder]

The K sports are a great set of coilovers

OK. I'll bite.

What is this claim based on? It surely can't be their technical specs, since K-Sports have terrible hysteresis, a lousy bump/rebound ratio, and are not even close to digressive in bump. It also can't be based on back-to-comparisons with, for example, Konis with GC sleeves, unless the person doing the testing has no clue how to drive (or, at least, drives very differently from most people). The only thing left is that they are very pretty, while a Koni/GC/HyperCo set-up is a nasty mixture of yellow, red, and dark blue. Is that what your opinion is based on? The colors?

 

[bmoha7321]

Is Far North still offering those built Konis with pillow ball uppers?

 

[Leonthefaded]

OK. I'll bite.

What is this claim based on? It surely can't be their technical specs, since K-Sports have terrible hysteresis, a lousy bump/rebound ratio, and are not even close to digressive in bump. It also can't be based on back-to-comparisons with, for example, Konis with GC sleeves, unless the person doing the testing has no clue how to drive (or, at least, drives very differently from most people). The only thing left is that they are very pretty, while a Koni/GC/HyperCo set-up is a nasty mixture of yellow, red, and dark blue. Is that what your opinion is based on? The colors?

I have a set and I like it. So he might.

 

[jcart953]

My megan racing coilovers have held up just fine, installed almost two years ago and driven threw a harsh utah winter.

Which ones did you get? Was it any one of these:EXTREME PSI : Your #1 Source for In Stock Performance Parts

Let us know which coilovers you are looking for I can shoot you a price on some different brands if you would like. We can get Koni yellows and source out some ground controls

Personally I was looking to purchase the megan racings that are in the above link and a rear sway bar kit sometime in the spring but I wouldnt mind hearing some of those prices.

 

[jtmcinder]

I have a set and I like it. So he might.

I'm aware that you like it. They are a pretty color.

 

[NWHTanK]

Lol colors are kewl man.

 

[Leonthefaded]

If I was buying a show car, that I was only driving maybe to car cruise meetups and car shows, based off color id go wigth the megan racing ez streets. cause they match everything else on my car. But sinced my coilover selection is about ride and performance. I stick with k sports

 

[jtmcinder]

If I was buying a show car, that I was only driving maybe to car cruise meetups and car shows, based off color id go wigth the megan racing ez streets. cause they match everything else on my car. But sinced my coilover selection is about ride and performance. I stick with k sports

And that, folks, in a nutshell, is why Leon's chicklet is the color that it is.

 

[HaveBlue83]

everyone look jtmcinder's avatar, post count, rep, and wiseman status.

OBV he knows, and has clearly said KONI & GC sleeves for this price range.

pillowballs wont do anything. not how you adjust camber on our cars.

darn....I just got sucked into this didnt I?

 

[jtmcinder]

As much as I appreciate the above, I have to disagree about the pillowballs. While it's true that they won't allow for camber adjustment on a 2G (or any other double-wishbone car), they do allow the shock to do its job better, especially on a 2G. You see, one of the main points of a pillowball is to reduce or eliminate side-forces on the shock's shaft. Side-forces cause what's called "stiction," which is a fancy word that means the shock's piston-head sticks to the walls of the shock's tube. With a pillowball top, when coupled with a coaxial spring-hat, the stiction is reduced to about zero and the shock can damp even the smallest movements smoothly; even more, the shock no longer adds harsh resistance to small movements. And that little bit of extra smoothness increases the grip of the tires.

If you'd like an analogy, it parallels the difference between break-away force vs sliding force. Push a block of wood across a table. It takes more force to get it moving than to keep it sliding. Something very similar is happening inside your shocks. And that initial extra resistance to movement causes a loss of grip. Pillowballs with coaxial hats reduce this initial extra resistance and, therefore, add grip.

Yeah, OK, you might not notice the difference (until you see your time for the run) and it will be small. But it could be the difference between winning and losing.

 

[NWHTanK]

Um dont mess with^^^^ but colors are still cool even when the car is lowerd and u cant see them.

 

[HaveBlue83]

yes, you are correct, i just meant to the N/T guys that wanna slam, "roll hard" will see megan/ks/bc others may have pillowball adj. they will think "I can make any camber angle I want" instead of "i can make the shock perform optimally". they will need the eccentric bolts/old style arms with adjustable points on them.

i made a short post that was kinda foggy.