What now....

[Mim]

Hey guys,

Still having issues with this 95 2.0 n/t.

Since the new head, it's been running horribly. If youve been following my posts you will see. NOW... yesterday it wouldn't start. I have a stripped screw hole for the thermostat housing so the thing sprays antifreeze all over the engine... still trying to figure that out without replacing the housing because that means removing alot..

ANYWAY, I got it started for a few min yesterday and it ran horribly. Idled funny and acted like it was missing or something. Parked it and it wouldnt start again. So I have been messing around with it. Threw code for failure with coil pack B, so I changed the thing. I think I fried my coil with the radiator fluid spraying everywhere.. I can see the tanish orangeish wire coming off the pack has a slight cut in it with exposed wire.... (once i replaced the coil pack, it stopped throwing the code)

After changing it swapping out wires, the car starts but runs like crap. White smoke out the exhaust and the pipe itself is shaking. To add to all of this wonderfullness spark plugs 1-3 are wet with gas but 4 is dry as a bone. I'm banging my head against a wall here. Please help!!

*Edit*

Now it is making a clicking noise that sounds like it is coming from the first cylinder right in front of the thermostat housing... I am going to put up a video here in a second.

 

[dsm'r sk1mp]

bad rings or bad head gasket. sense the oil is milky it has to be one of those. that low of a compression is amazing the car can even start. I would honestly say its the head gasket. Ill bet money if you look in your catch can it will look the same. Drain your oil, check for gunk, check your coolant lines, all that good stuff. you will most likely find that same milky stuff in alot of those places.

 

[Mim]

Ok... like I said before, every day is a new development. The sound (that I think is the back of the thermostat on the water pump) is back every now and then. BUT there is something NEW!

I am trying to flush out the coolant system in order to put some blue devil in and see if it helps for now, but I cant get it started after I re-filled it with water. I can hear a leak from inside the car.... it sounds like water leaking or spraying out but I cant see it anywhere. I think it's the heater core.... could that be my problem and if it is could that explain my other problems? I DID notice I wasn't getting any heat from the vents even after the car was warmed up....

 

[brandonwh64]

I hate to say mim but i personally at this point would pull out the engine and do a test on the cylinders to check bore and go ahead and re-ring it then have the head looked at to make sure its not off from when it was shaved. that milky look is bad.

 

[Mim]

I hate to say mim but i personally at this point would pull out the engine and do a test on the cylinders to check bore and go ahead and re-ring it then have the head looked at to make sure its not off from when it was shaved. that milky look is bad.

I know....

I already have twice what I payed for the car re-invested into it and it's still busted.

 

[ziggo0]

I know....

I already have twice what I payed for the car re-invested into it and it's still busted.

Welcome to the DSM world...it's a learning experience, that's for sure. Most people who stick with it have invested more than several times the cost of their DSM. I know I'm at....probably 6x as much as I paid for it. Do it right once.

 

[BIRDCLAWTSi]

Welcome to the DSM world...it's a learning experience, that's for sure. Most people who stick with it have invested more than several times the cost of their DSM. I know I'm at....probably 6x as much as I paid for it. Do it right once.

Not a DSM, But it does have a bad headgasket.

 

[Mim]

Well, I caught that spraying noise from inside the cab on video and I will post it. You can hear it a couple times on the video.. what do you think?

YouTube - Heater core leak?

It's also running quite a bit rougher than before... and I didn't do anything to it since last night when I had it running aside from drain the coolant and fill it with water to clean it out. Then it was suddenly hard to start. So difficult in fact that I called it quits for the night and fought with it this morning.

 

[brandonwh64]

Another thing i would suggest is quite steep but you could possibly make some of your money back is to find a 420A DOHC in a junk yard that runs good and swap it out, then build that engine that you take out. then put the newly built engine back in and sell the running 420A.

This may be a wild idea but doable

 

[Mim]

Another thing i would suggest is quite steep but you could possibly make some of your money back is to find a 420A DOHC in a junk yard that runs good and swap it out, then build that engine that you take out. then put the newly built engine back in and sell the running 420A.

This may be a wild idea but doable

Ive actually thought about that. It could be a talon or even a neon. Really anything to be quite honest with you. (just to have another daily driver) I wouldn't mind ripping it out and rebuilding but I am about to move in two months so I don't have the time or money. That and I need a hoist and mount for the thing...

I have a truck, but my brother is using it to get back and forth to work because the tranny went out on his prelude.... cars seem to be my biggest problem right now.

 

[brandonwh64]

Yea find a neon and then find a eclipse head and you would be in business unless you just wanted to use the SOHC until your engine is built

 

[Mim]

Don't suppose it really matters until I get to re-sale value... This is all just a thought though... not sure I am going to be able to follow up on it to soon...

 

[brandonwh64]

I will be doing as i mentioned earlier but kinda diffrent. im going to find a 420A out of a junk yard and build it the way i want then swap out my old engine then keep it as a backup in case my new one explodes

 

[Mim]

I will be doing as i mentioned earlier but kinda diffrent. im going to find a 420A out of a junk yard and build it the way i want then swap out my old engine then keep it as a backup in case my new one explodes

That's not a bad idea either.. and completely affordable. Then I could rebuild my old one and sell it. Once again, it's not doable at the moment due to my rapidly upcoming move and expenses, but it's a good idea.

Yea find a neon and then find a eclipse head and you would be in business unless you just wanted to use the SOHC until your engine is built

A lot of the neon's Ive seen at the yard have the exact same motor and DOHC head.

 

[scott90gsx420]

IDK where you guy are getting bad rings are causing that milky film. Rings going bad would cause it to burn oil. He has low compression because the tester was either bad or he didn't tighten it all the way(ive done this).Even not getting it in all the way two cylinders are low. And there the two in the middle. Which would point to a bad seal between them. That milky film is caused by either a bad HG, warped or cracked head or a cracked block. So no your rings are fine id be willing be bet on that.Seeming you had a bad head/HG before and failed to re-torque it after the new one was put on its a better guess to say it is a bad head gasket then a cracked/warped head or block. But there is just no way bad rings will cause water and oil to mix.

To mim you need to get that head off man and look at the headgasket and where it meets the block and where it meets the head. Im willing to bet youll see it has a bad seal and it will look like its had blowby(will be black and dirty where the rest should look still pretty shiny and clean) on the spot thats leaking.
And while it apart pull the water pump off and look to see if thats your noise. Stop running the car though man your just going to make it worse.

 

[Project_Mayhem@]

IDK where you guy are getting bad rings are causing that milky film. Rings going bad would cause it to burn oil. He has low compression because the tester was either bad or he didn't tighten it all the way(ive done this).Even not getting it in all the way two cylinders are low. And there the two in the middle. Which would point to a bad seal between them. That milky film is caused by either a bad HG, warped or cracked head or a cracked block. So no your rings are fine id be willing be bet on that.Seeming you had a bad head/HG before and failed to re-torque it after the new one was put on its a better guess to say it is a bad head gasket then a cracked/warped head or block. But there is just no way bad rings will cause water and oil to mix.

To mim you need to get that head off man and look at the headgasket and where it meets the block and where it meets the head. Im willing to bet youll see it has a bad seal and it will look like its had blowby(will be black and dirty where the rest should look still pretty shiny and clean) on the spot thats leaking.
And while it apart pull the water pump off and look to see if thats your noise. Stop running the car though man your just going to make it worse.

I agree 100% with this post if you keep running the car your going to blow it to high hell the milky film is a head gasket issue. Im not to sure about the 420a but with the 4g63 its cast block aluminum head and if it over heats the head warps so that maybe another issue to look into i would start to pull it apart and look for that thermostat piece that was missing that is more than likely the ticking sound you have

 

[dsm'r sk1mp]

You know i tried telling you you it was the head gasket.. and this guy thats giving you all this crazy information and ideas should do a little more homework. Mim, pull the head, get your self a good head gasket, sense your already down there with the head replace easy stuff thats in your budget. Valves retainers, Valve seats, lifters. My personal advise is getting a Cometic head gasket. replace your valve cover gasket, have the Valve cover completely bathed at a local shop. sense the head is already off replace your timing belt tensioner and tensioner pully. This stuff is complete maintenance and safety that ALL DSMrs should fallow through with upon a problem like this. Or you can listen to the guy that wants you to pull your block and put a new one in. Your call

 

[scott90gsx420]

You know i tried telling you you it was the head gasket.. and this guy thats giving you all this crazy information and ideas should do a little more homework. Mim, pull the head, get your self a good head gasket, sense your already down there with the head replace easy stuff thats in your budget. Valves retainers, Valve seats, lifters. My personal advise is getting a Cometic head gasket. replace your valve cover gasket, have the Valve cover completely bathed at a local shop. sense the head is already off replace your timing belt tensioner and tensioner pully. This stuff is complete maintenance and safety that ALL DSMrs should fallow through with upon a problem like this. Or you can listen to the guy that wants you to pull your block and put a new one in. Your call

Dude maby you should reread the entire post before running your mouth. I told him it was more then likely the head gasket like my second post. Ive never said one time it was a cracked block i said those are the only things that could cause oil/water mixing.
The other guy told him to replace his rings, not me. Ive told him its either head problems,shot head gasket or a cracked block. But i said the head gasket was by far more likely.
So maby you should reread the post then youd see ive in no way told him he needs a new motor. Ive done my homework ive been working on dsm's for years and spent more nights on this website searching stuff i didn't even need to just for the hell of knowing. All my ideas ive given him were good ones and although they may not be his problem they are things that could possibly be wrong.
Crazy information is telling him he needs to go and get new valves and lifters,retainers when his issue is the head gasket or the head itself. After you reread everything ive suggested then try and tell me im wrong.
Thanks for trying to make me look like an ass by repeating the same information ive already stated. It ridiculous ive even had to right this .
Infact i just erread it all. You told him it was either bad rings or headgasket. So who is sugesting he needs a bottom end rebuild? not me.
This is in good fun im not trying to start some big fight im just clarifing that im not just some noob that trying to get post numbers. I know what im talking about and I have in no way pointed him in the wrong direction

 

[STLskater92]

Change the head gasket and valve cover gasket then go from there. And please find that missing piece. It's more than likely your ticking. scott90gsx420 already said all this, but I figured the more people that post this, the more likely you are to actually try and fix this.
And I had the same problem with one of my mustangs about a year ago, I sent the heads off to get ported and polished and when they got back I forgot to retorque them and blew my head gasket. Ran rough and blew smoke.

 

[brandonwh64]

Any update mim?

 

[Crystall7275]

Have you checked the crankshaft positioning sensor?