What is this car worth / Is this car a good deal?

[Devilsfutbol17]

I found a 1996 Spyder GST for $4900. It is a 5-speed, 91,000 miles on it, white with black top, 17 inch rims. There is 80% tread left on the tires but the guy has a brand new never used set of tires for the car that is included in the price. He says the top doesn't leak, but it had a rip and was repaired, but he didn't like it, so he bought a brand new oem top that isn't installed and is included with the car. He says the interior is really nice, everything inside works, but you have to help the top up a little bit. He doesn't know if the timing belt has been replaced or not. It has a 3 inch cat back exhaust, 16G turbo, apexi intake and a greddy bov. He says it runs great and has no issues. He says he just wants to get rid of it because he doesn't drive it and its taking up space in his garage, which sounds good to me because he kept it garaged at least. he also said that the paint is good on it, no clear coat coming off, no body damage or dents. I'm going to check for crankwalk be looking at the clutch pedal when I turn left. I have been talking to the guy over the phone and I'm suppose to go drive for 4 hours to go and buy it if it checks out on Thursday. Does it sound good? Should I ask him or check for other things on it?

 

[AngelOfPassion]

237xxx+ miles? Needs new transmission? Mold in the interior? MAYBE worth 500-700. MAYBE.

I wouldn't buy it but that is just my opinion... If you want a restoration project, by all means go for it.

 

[DSM_love_GST]

Whatever the choice, save that precious black leather.

 

[Canadiankush]

In that condition maybe 500-800 bucks at the most.

237xxx+ miles? Needs new transmission? Mold in the interior? MAYBE worth 500-700. MAYBE.

I wouldn't buy it but that is just my opinion... If you want a restoration project, by all means go for it.

Whatever the choice, save that precious black leather.

, ya he really let it turn to shit. he bought it for $21 000 or something around there and i think he's looking to get like $4000 for it if he ever fully commits to selling it and cleans it up so i doubt he'd sell it for that under a grand.

it's 237 xxx kilometers

 

[Breezio69]

I just have one thing to say, my dad would give me that thing just to clear up space for his other bullshit...

That being said, if it is molding on the inside it is also rusting... Floor pans, trunk, seams etc are all just rotting away every day of the week. And if is has mold, it will smell like ass if you just "clean up" the interior. Plus it could be a health hazard. I mean who wants to slowly die from airborn mold spores in a rotting DSM?

Id offer him a deal to just tow that hunk out of his life and suck up the price tag from a decade ago (with 200,000+ miles, he got his investment back). This is also assuming you dont live at your parents house, if you do, offer to tow it to a friends house , haha.


EDIT:
I just looked at the pics again... Just from the pictures I see a $5k project... tell your father it should be free because of this:

It needs (at the least)
transmission, tune up, interior (carpet at minimum), new rag top, paint job, new brakes all around, most likely 75 to 100% of any rubber line under the hood replaced (rot), fuel tank cleaned, injectors cleaned, new tires, battery, timing belt, all belts for that matter... at this point you have bought two running cars and wonder "why the F$%^ did I start this?" Then you finish it up about 9k later and sell it for $2500... sounds like a deal at $4000 haha.

Just lay it on thick. Once he sees some pricing of parts and labor in his head he will cave. And if anybody gave him $4000 for that Id call the cops on your pops, because that is in fact daylight robbery.

 

[Canadiankush]

I just have one thing to say, my dad would give me that thing just to clear up space for his other bullshit...

That being said, if it is molding on the inside it is also rusting... Floor pans, trunk, seams etc are all just rotting away every day of the week. And if is has mold, it will smell like ass if you just "clean up" the interior. Plus it could be a health hazard. I mean who wants to slowly die from airborn mold spores in a rotting DSM?

Id offer him a deal to just tow that hunk out of his life and suck up the price tag from a decade ago (with 200,000+ miles, he got his investment back). This is also assuming you dont live at your parents house, if you do, offer to tow it to a friends house , haha.


EDIT:
I just looked at the pics again... Just from the pictures I see a $5k project... tell your father it should be free because of this:

It needs (at the least)
transmission, tune up, interior (carpet at minimum), new rag top, paint job, new brakes all around, most likely 75 to 100% of any rubber line under the hood replaced (rot), fuel tank cleaned, injectors cleaned, new tires, battery, timing belt, all belts for that matter... at this point you have bought two running cars and wonder "why the F$%^ did I start this?" Then you finish it up about 9k later and sell it for $2500... sounds like a deal at $4000 haha.

Just lay it on thick. Once he sees some pricing of parts and labor in his head he will cave. And if anybody gave him $4000 for that Id call the cops on your pops, because that is in fact daylight robbery.

wow, that changes my mind, . he doesn't want me to have it either as he wants to downsize on the amount of cars we have and i already have two other ones. i'm also only 17 and still live with my parents so towing it away is out of the question. guess it's not worth buying which sucks since it brings back some memories. thanks for the feedback.

 

[Joemarshall32]

Cars for Sale: 1998 Mitsubishi Eclipse GS-T in Howell, MI 48843: Hatchback Details - 326377965 - AutoTrader.com

 

[isantop]

Cars for Sale: 1998 Mitsubishi Eclipse GS-T in Howell, MI 48843: Hatchback Details - 326377965 - AutoTrader.com

I'm gonna say no. That's a lot of "customization" and not all of it is tasteful. Actually, a lot of it is pretty distasteful, IMO.

He's got a big turbo on it, but there's not mention of a lot of supporting mods (DSMlink would be a huge plus). Plus, he's running cat-less, which means it's sure to fail smog until you get that fixed (if you live in an area that does emmissions testing). It's a big fixit ticket in any case. That body kit/blue interior is a bit gaudy. Plus, it's got the "Turbo" badge off of a Beetle...

If you like the car how it is, then that brings the value up a bit. If not, then most of it is a huge deduction.

It's a GS-T. I'd pay maybe $4-5k, if you like the appearance mods.

 

[cbr600teardrop]

its a 94 eclipse gsx paint is peeling and faded less than 100 miles on motor and head ally my mods listed below



Engine
Modification
6 bolt block
6 bolt head
acl tri metal race main and rod barrings
all emissions crap removed or blocked
ams race balance shaft elimenator kit
ARP Harmonic Balancer Bolt
arp head studs
arp main studs
bc 1 mm over valves
bc 272 cams
bc valve springs and retaners
bored .020 over
Cometic head gasket
crower rods
custom brc pistons
Fully balanced internals
gapless rings
greddy timming belt
itm revised lifters
Kiggly Racing 6-Bolt Main Girdle
magnas heat barrier intake gasket
silicone vacumm lines
supertech valve guides
Transmission

act 2900 street clutch
all new driveshaft universal joints
driveshaft yoke recall kit
Extended Clutch Slave Cylinder Rod
fidanza flywheel
in car solid shifter bushings
new driveshaft carrier barings
new oem pivot ball
new shifter fork
solid shifter bushings
stainless steel braided clutch lines

Brakes

stainless stell braided lines

Intake

2.5" intercooler pipe
94 throttle body
greddy bof type rs
k&n air filter

Exhaust

2g ported exman
3" megan racing dp
3" megan racing test pipe
3"megan racing cat back
ported o2 pipe
stainless steal wide band 02 bung

Turbo

custom adjustable wastgate
oil feedline w15 micron filter stainless steal braided-4an
oil return socketless hose fitting -10an
ported cliped big 16g turbo
push to lock -6an water line

Intercooler

cx racing fmic

Fuel Delivery

650cc injectors
aem fuel rail
fuel lab afpr
fuel lab fuel filter
pump rewire
push to lock -4an return line
STM FUEL TANK TO RAIL KIT
walbro 255lph

Engine Management

2g maf
2g mas adapter wiring harrness
apexi safc2
data logger on a palm
greddy boost controller profec spec b II
greddy full auto turbo timer
stage 3 keydiver chip

Miscellaneous

cruse control removed
removed all ac

Ignition

94 cas
95 coils
95 power transistor
ngk plugs
ngk plug wires

Fluids

BG Syncro Shift II
Diaqueen Transfer Case/Rear Diff. Fluid
dot4 brake fluid
moble1 full synthetic 10w40

Gauges & Sensors

autometer phantom water temp gauge
autometer phantom boost gauge
autometer phantom egt 0-2000 gauge
autometer phantom oil press gauge
autometer phantom wideband o2 gauge
custom fiberglass vent dual gauge pod
triple a piller gauge pod

 

[cbr600teardrop]

bump for answer ^^^^^

 

[NHerron]

In my humbled opinion, I would part it out if you actually want closer value from it. You've got a lot of expensive parts in there you just wouldn't get money back on if sold as an entire package. Plus, if there's no receipts or pictures/proof, it's gonna makes things harder. Some people that want a cool/fast car don't want to buy something they have no idea how to maintain. Flipside, experienced people don't want to buy a built car, they want to buy stock and build it themselves. Sucks, but that's the usual two situations. However there might be exceptions I suppose.

When I decided to build my car, I did it knowing it would be a car that stays in the family for a long time. I knew if I sold it this way I wouldn't get nearly the amount out I put in and the car would probably get stripped and rebuilt the way the next owner wanted it anyhow. Basically, I knew I was pissing in the wind on this one but the idea was/is, -I'm young, dumb & single, no bills, and working 60 hours a week in the oil fields. I wanted to have a memorable blast of a car before I wise up and get settled down

 

[cbr600teardrop]

i have all the receipts to every part in and on the car

 

[Chris25]

Im purchasing a 1G gst on friday and im wondering what are some of the things to look for as far as warning signs. The car has 140k on it and for mods just a 2600 ACT and a downpipe. Any tips would be appreciated

 

[Dhan]

Already been covered. Extensively.

http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/fre...estions/238710-dsm-used-car-buyers-guide.html

If you still have questions after reading through that link, post them here.

 

[OutKastGSX]

http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/fre...estions/238710-dsm-used-car-buyers-guide.html

make sure you check timing belt. ask when it was last changed. ask for recipes of regular maintenance.check turbo for shaft play. make sure it dosent overheat. test drive it make sure gears engage smoothly. check oil. and other fluids. etc. Good luck.

Beat me to it ^^^

 

[Chris25]

Thank you guys

 

[NHerron]

Might try a 'feeler' ad in the classifieds... I assume that's where you're thinking of selling it? Or is this for whoever calls yaup on craigslist, kind of deal

 

[1998dsm]

Need some advice and opinions, this guy told me the motor was built by a family friend, is there a way to get the motor checked out without removing it from the car to make sure it was done right?
http://albuquerque.craigslist.org/cto/3128919607.html

 

[Kalub]

No. Unless he has receipts or pictures of the build. Judging by the cheap price, and lack of information I'd say he's pulling your leg.

 

[xxNocturnalxx]

Looks and sounds like some Mexi junk, don't waste your time.

 

[1998dsm]

Yeah I figured thanks for your thoughts

 

[cbr600teardrop]

well im asking 6000 for it on craigslist iv got alot more than that in it

 

[isantop]

well im asking 6000 for it on craigslist iv got alot more than that in it

I know it's been said before, but an automobile isn't an investment. You're never going to get money out (or even back) by putting money into it, with only a couple of exceptions. It's certainly not going to go for above blue book just because you've modded it.

Blue Book for a 94 GSX in excellent condition (meaning like new, just rolled off the lot) is about $3200. With less than 100 mi on the motor, it will need to be broken in too.

You might be able to find a "bought, not built" type of person who wants a fast DSM, but doesn't want to put the time into building one. But most people looking for a DSM are looking for a fast, fun, reliable (read stock) DD, or they want to build it themselves.

If you're looking to sell it, then putting a new coat of paint on and fixing any little mechanical issues will probably pay off. But adding parts (performance parts, appearance parts, etc.) will never increase the value of the car. At worst, it may even decrease it.

 

[cbr600teardrop]

yea i got double 6000 invested in it but my loss your gain and yes the motor needs broken in runs good tho

 

[NHerron]

So why are you selling? Are you out the DSM game?

 

[Chris25]

So I went and checked out the car hes asking 3k but when I looked at the car the BOV. was blocked and not conected he stated the rubber re circulation hose broke so he blocked it. What kind of problems could that cause?