What Else Do I Need To Hit 13's???

[supermariobros]

First of all, my long term goal is 300-350hp on pump gas and 375-400 on race gas. I know I still need to get injectors, fuel management, fuel pump, and exhaust. Only problem is that if i put exhaust on now, im going to have massive boost creep. Next problem is I dont have cash to throw around to get my turbo ported and clipped, DSM link, 255lph, and 660's. Would I be safe getting away with using a 190lph and Evo injectors + exhaust?? AFC also? Thanks

 

[majik2k5]

Sounds safe. A lot of people will run 190's for a good bit of time with no management.

Also, if you're AWD... 13's should be a cakewalk.

 

[Spooling99]

Not bad, I have a 3in dp and catback from Apexi and i dont have any creep at all, it holds 14psi just fine(on stock 14b). You should try and throw the exhaust on to see what happens
-ADAM-
*edit* I see you have a 16g. If your that worried there is a thread on how to cure boost creep in the how to area Good luck.

 

[supermariobros]

I also forgot to note that I am FWD with LSD

 

[91gsx_turbo]

IF your just looking for 13's i wouldnt go for a full out standalone engine management i would go with a dsm link softwhere it has alot of bang for the buck. full out tunning with out limitations of a piggy back. you can get one for about $500-$600 shop around.

 

[Spooling99]

IF your just looking for 13's i wouldnt go for a full out standalone engine management i would go with a dsm link softwhere it has alot of bang for the buck. full out tunning with out limitations of a piggy back. you can get one for about $500-$600 shop around.

Yeah and then he'd need an eprom ECU and a laptop so thats about a grand all together. And for 13's with being FWD the biggest thing that will kill you is traction.
-ADAM-

 

[MCDGexx]

He said he's got a LSD so yah that should help.

 

[fourreGsixty3]

Yep I agree with spooling99 about the ems, but since you have lsd, the lsd should give you traction for the power goals you are looks to reach. For now I would go with a wally 190, a set of denso's or something similar, you have the evo3 16G, so perhaps a 2.5" exhaust set up from turbo back by megan racing or bushcur racing. And port out the turbine housing, the exhasut mani, and o2 housing, since you are short on $$$ at the moment the last 3 that I listed are free for you to do, all you need is a dremal. Also is your ac still hooked up? if so take it out, weight reduction and the ac robs a little bit of power from the engine. Oh yeah and do plugs and sparks, better fuel combustion= faster times.

EDIT** This wont improve you times but invest in a boost gauge. The stock boost gauge is really inaccurate, and well you need to know the real amount your boosting.

 

[Marc91GSX]

Yeah and then he'd need an eprom ECU and a laptop so thats about a grand all together. And for 13's with being FWD the biggest thing that will kill you is traction.
-ADAM-

He already has an eprom ecu.


Do the fuel pump rewire, all of the free mods, and with the parts you mentioned installing you should be safe up around the 280-300 horsepower mark. Anything above that and you will need other modifications. On my first DSM I dynoed 280 with a ported B16, FMIC, 550s, fuel pump rewire, SAFC II, and turbo back 3" on 24 pounds of boost w/ c16. If you want to use pump gas do not exceed around the 17-18 psi mark with just a rewire. You should be able to get into the high 13s with this setup and it should also keep your cost down.

 

[danyz250f]

This is what I am running, I have a logger most important mod I think. Boost leak test I have alot of leaks so fix those make sure all the maintainance stuff is good, oil, timing, timing belt. If you arn't getting a fmic I would atleast clean your stock SMIC and maybe some hard piping. Exhaust and I have and safc and soon to get 650cc injectors. But since your FWD you should get slicks that would probaly help the most.

I think mainly maintinance and slicks race gas and high boost (18psi ish) will get you there. Oh yeah PRACTICE.

 

[Spooling99]

He already has an eprom ecu.

Must have missed that.

You could get into the 13's with SAFC. And if you dont want a FMIC i'd still suggest at least a Supra SMIC.

-ADAM-

 

[supermariobros]

Also is your ac still hooked up? if so take it out, weight reduction and the ac robs a little bit of power from the engine.This wont improve you times but invest in a boost gauge. The stock boost gauge is really inaccurate, and well you need to know the real amount your boosting.

Powersteering and AC is removed, emissions removed, and I have an aftermarket boost gauge. Im planning on removing both bumper supports, adding sparco seats, gutting the interior.

 

[Spooling99]

Also do what danyz said get a logger and a SAFC. They will help out immensly with tuning. Once again good luck.
-ADAM-

 

[Marc91GSX]

Must have missed that.

You could get into the 13's with SAFC. And if you dont want a FMIC i'd still suggest at least a Supra SMIC.

-ADAM-

That's ok, he probably doesn't even know he has one. I based that on the fact that it is a 90 model and they all came equiped with eproms from the factory.

 

[supermariobros]

so with the re-wire, 550's, 190lph, safc, exhaust, port job, I should be able to obtain 13's no prob?? Im also planning on running bf goodrich drag radials at the track.

 

[supermariobros]

That's ok, he probably doesn't even know he has one. I based that on the fact that it is a 90 model and they all came equiped with eproms from the factory.

I know i have an eprom

 

[h3o]

look at my vehicle profile that got me down to 13.2

 

[dsm-onster]

Yeah and then he'd need an eprom ECU and a laptop so thats about a grand all together. And for 13's with being FWD the biggest thing that will kill you is traction.
-ADAM-

That's still waayy less than, what, EMS.

On topic...

The PO of my FWD got down to a 13.5 with stock weight, stock fuel stock 14b, stock sidemount, stock suspension, 2.5" exhaust piping, and 225 street radials.

 

[1993eclipseGS]

Either way, Once he starts making real hp an LSD isnt' going to help much. I have video's of my buddies' rsx-s turbo roasting them off at the top of 3rd gear off the revlimiter, With an LSD that was over a grand.

 

[h3o]

Either way, Once he starts making real hp an LSD isnt' going to help much. I have video's of my buddies' rsx-s turbo roasting them off at the top of 3rd gear off the revlimiter, With an LSD that was over a grand.

thats when you get slicks
then axles
then bigger slicks
then suspension
and it keeps going on and on as you make more and more power

 

[1993eclipseGS]

I know, I can't wait to get my shep tranny with lsd, Fwd with no suspension/lsd/tires sucks... Although I broke my tranny now so that goes to show it sucks even more.

 

[dsm-onster]

Either way, Once he starts making real hp an LSD isnt' going to help much. I have video's of my buddies' rsx-s turbo roasting them off at the top of 3rd gear off the revlimiter, With an LSD that was over a grand.

FWD DSMs have excellent traction for being FWD. Better than many RWD cars i have driven. Modifying your suspension geometry, adding properly dampening shocks, and slicks will cut your 60fts to under 1 sec with some power. If FWD hondas can go 10s then FWD DSMs can too. It is always cheaper to get an AWD shell to achieve the same results in the 60ft. But where's the fun in that

 

[h3o]

FWD DSMs have excellent traction for being FWD. Better than many RWD cars i have driven. Modifying your suspension geometry, adding properly dampening shocks, and slicks will cut your 60fts to under 1 sec with some power. If FWD hondas can go 10s then FWD DSMs can too. It is always cheaper to get an AWD shell to achieve the same results in the 60ft. But where's the fun in that

under 1 sec? that would be to fast for me

 

[MCDGexx]

I think he means under 2 seconds. 1 second 60' is pretty insane.

 

[h3o]

I think he means under 2 seconds. 1 second 60' is pretty insane.

hehe i figured, but i already hit a sub 2sec 60ft on street tires, ya im talented like that