shempt
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- Sep 17, 2004
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Lakewood,
Colorado
Well after the HP competition about a week ago, I immediately noticed a weird sound coming from the front end of the engine (where the belts are). Sounds like a quiet supercharger whine. I don't think it's the power steering as the steering doesn't affect it.
As I was driving it home that day, I stopped along the way for a few minutes to recheck the car. When I restarted it, the sound was gone until I drove off. I finished driving it home and noticed it sounded the same in loudness and pitch during the drive. I boosted the car and there wasn't any noticeable loss in power or change in pitch of the sound. The wind masked the chance to really tell on the hi-way.
When I got it home I parked it outside for about 2 hours. Then when I drove it into the garage, I noticed the oil light was on and the stock pressure needle stayed at the bottom. So I shut it down right away. I am concerned about oil starvation again. My worst nightmare all over again. All internals and oil pump is new.
The sound is gone as it's parked and cold but I hear a different sound that's slight. The whining comes back when the car is warmed up again. I took off the plastic timing cover behind the pulleys. I bolted back up all the pulleys and belts to start the car tonight to diagnose where the sound is coming from. No whine sound but a sound like a loose wheel cog is more audible. It might be natural. Nothing seems loose. The T-belt tensioner pin slid right in both before and after the two 20sec idle tests. So I think the belt is on OK unless the tensioner pulley needs adjusting?
I did have the oil cap off when I idled it for a few seconds and noticed that there was an extreme amount of air pushing and pulling out of the oil filler cap. When I revved the engine the air flow seemed to reduce. (if anything, it didn't get more intense. (of course this isn't under load or boost)
I don't have an extra hand for another compression test but I checked the plugs. I put in new ones before the HP competition and the center white insulator is now mostly brown and the prongs are either dark brown or black. (no oil on them) They were gaped to .028.
I'm concerned whether the piston rings are not seated or causing a leak somewhere. Or the oil pump is going out. I do not remember on previous occasions when idling that the oil filler cap had that much air moving in and out. Could it be that the PCV valve and hose is not connected to the intake manifold any longer? Instead the PVC outlet is connected to the other crank case breather outlet, and a filter before it is joined at the intake tube to the turbo. (the intake mani is capped off) I was trying to reduce the previous issue of blow-by and exhaust smoke after a heavy launch and letting off of the gas. And to reduce the + crank pressures.
One assumption is that the stock oil sender is bad and/or the connector to it. I just reconnected the terminal and the oil light went out but the oil pressure needle still remained at the bottom! Where does the pressure gage get it's signal? Isn't it from the pressure sender as well?
I do hear oil trickling down from the filler cap hole after I stop the engine. And I do see that the oil level right after shutoff is at its half way mark as opposed to the 3/4 mark before I started it. So I think I'm getting oil circulation, but I still wonder if I'm getting adequate pressure and flow. Something is making that supercharger sound and it's making me concerned. I don't want to run the car to diagnose that sound until I'm certain that the oil pressure gage is reading some oil pressure again. I don't want to re-re-rebuild.
I drained the oil. This oil was the 1st batch of Mobil-1 instead of dino oil. The filter wasn't changed because the previous oil changes were frequent. But I think a little dino that was in the filter was mixed with the Mobil-1. And maybe that is why I see silver streaks in this newer oil. (Only used for 80 miles) No metal flakes are present, but looks just as if I mixed a little dab of graphite in it. I'm not sure if it's assembly lube being that this is my 3rd or 4th oil change after 500~700miles on the new engine.
Any help is appreciated.
Sorry for the long question, but I want to cover all the pertinent stuff, that I'm aware of, the first time.
EDIT: My balance shafts are elimitated.
ew
As I was driving it home that day, I stopped along the way for a few minutes to recheck the car. When I restarted it, the sound was gone until I drove off. I finished driving it home and noticed it sounded the same in loudness and pitch during the drive. I boosted the car and there wasn't any noticeable loss in power or change in pitch of the sound. The wind masked the chance to really tell on the hi-way.
When I got it home I parked it outside for about 2 hours. Then when I drove it into the garage, I noticed the oil light was on and the stock pressure needle stayed at the bottom. So I shut it down right away. I am concerned about oil starvation again. My worst nightmare all over again. All internals and oil pump is new.
The sound is gone as it's parked and cold but I hear a different sound that's slight. The whining comes back when the car is warmed up again. I took off the plastic timing cover behind the pulleys. I bolted back up all the pulleys and belts to start the car tonight to diagnose where the sound is coming from. No whine sound but a sound like a loose wheel cog is more audible. It might be natural. Nothing seems loose. The T-belt tensioner pin slid right in both before and after the two 20sec idle tests. So I think the belt is on OK unless the tensioner pulley needs adjusting?
I did have the oil cap off when I idled it for a few seconds and noticed that there was an extreme amount of air pushing and pulling out of the oil filler cap. When I revved the engine the air flow seemed to reduce. (if anything, it didn't get more intense. (of course this isn't under load or boost)
I don't have an extra hand for another compression test but I checked the plugs. I put in new ones before the HP competition and the center white insulator is now mostly brown and the prongs are either dark brown or black. (no oil on them) They were gaped to .028.
I'm concerned whether the piston rings are not seated or causing a leak somewhere. Or the oil pump is going out. I do not remember on previous occasions when idling that the oil filler cap had that much air moving in and out. Could it be that the PCV valve and hose is not connected to the intake manifold any longer? Instead the PVC outlet is connected to the other crank case breather outlet, and a filter before it is joined at the intake tube to the turbo. (the intake mani is capped off) I was trying to reduce the previous issue of blow-by and exhaust smoke after a heavy launch and letting off of the gas. And to reduce the + crank pressures.
One assumption is that the stock oil sender is bad and/or the connector to it. I just reconnected the terminal and the oil light went out but the oil pressure needle still remained at the bottom! Where does the pressure gage get it's signal? Isn't it from the pressure sender as well?
I do hear oil trickling down from the filler cap hole after I stop the engine. And I do see that the oil level right after shutoff is at its half way mark as opposed to the 3/4 mark before I started it. So I think I'm getting oil circulation, but I still wonder if I'm getting adequate pressure and flow. Something is making that supercharger sound and it's making me concerned. I don't want to run the car to diagnose that sound until I'm certain that the oil pressure gage is reading some oil pressure again. I don't want to re-re-rebuild.
I drained the oil. This oil was the 1st batch of Mobil-1 instead of dino oil. The filter wasn't changed because the previous oil changes were frequent. But I think a little dino that was in the filter was mixed with the Mobil-1. And maybe that is why I see silver streaks in this newer oil. (Only used for 80 miles) No metal flakes are present, but looks just as if I mixed a little dab of graphite in it. I'm not sure if it's assembly lube being that this is my 3rd or 4th oil change after 500~700miles on the new engine.
Any help is appreciated.
Sorry for the long question, but I want to cover all the pertinent stuff, that I'm aware of, the first time.
EDIT: My balance shafts are elimitated.
ew