2G Turbo ?'s

[RRevolveR]

Yesterday I was racing a mustang gt and it beat me. (yes, I know I have the driving ability to beat it if my car was able too) Then it dawned on me that my cars stock turbo is a piece of crap and I need a new one. A guy I know is gutting his car and he has a almost brand new TD-45 turbo he will sell me for 300$'s. (I don't know much about turbos I haven't had my car long) Does anyone know if this turbo is compatible with my car and if it is a resonable price?
-thanks for the feedback-

 

[VapedTalon]

That doesn't sound like any turbo that I have heard of before, are you sure that was the exact name? If you could get some pictures of the turbo, I'm sure someone can identify it for you.

Don't forget as well that you can't just slap a bigger turbo on and boost away. Generally you are going to need a new fuel pump, injectors, and something to tune with. Depending on the size of the turbo you may need a upgraded intercooler and clutch.

Good luck and happy boosting.

 

[hereitcomes]

why do you think that you need a new turbo if you got beat by a GT. You are probably running stock boost and your turbo can handle at least 16 before it starts pushing hot air. Get supporting mods for your amount of boost and you will walk him.

 

[MilwaukeeGSX]

Dont buy that turbo.. Get an exhaust and a 14b..leaving everything the same. you should be able to feel a much faster car

 

[fwdeclipse]

Do you mean TDO5H,if so it could be a number of different turbos.Find out for sure what the name is,it could be a 14b,or a 16g.But like the other post said,you cannot just bolt on a 16g and go race.You will actually feel slower,so you will need supporting mods.Let us know.

 

[RRevolveR]

i will look into the proper name for that turbo i mentioned, my friend relayed it to me from the seller and he has a v-tec non turbo prelude... so he isn't familiar with turbos
Thanks for the feed back
Before i will put any major modifications on my car i will talk/show a mechanic who has worked on my car from the mitsu garage he is building a sweet engine for a gsx right now and he also works on a gsx with over 400hp i am assumeing he will be knowledgeable enough to give me the proper final set up advice.

 

[olmytsi]

Do intake, exhaust, upper intercooler pipe with 1g bov, port your second gen mani and o2 housing, replace the t25 with a 14b and a 190 or 255 walbro fuel pump to be safe cause you wont want to run that 14b at under 16-17psi

That should be PLENTY to smoke midly modded mustang gt's and z28 camaros.

 

[RRevolveR]

ok i talked to that (friend) of mine and he said it was the same as what i said except the (45) was a 25 so i am lost on this one till i go look at the actual turbo itself on wed's anyways though i wanted to know what a resonable priced good temporary turbo i could get for my car... until i put all the mods for haveing(supporting) a turbo charged beast so i don't break/blowup anything. i also was curious about BOV i read the open element set up and mine is set up that way it's not running back into my air intake pipe wed's i should get my HKS short ram intake and i know it comes with a MAFS adapter but if it comes with the outlet off the pipeing for recirculation i don't know
thanks again to any feedback

 

[Spooling99]

Im pretty sure he means T-25. When you go look at the turbo read the code on the housing.

Also you shouldn't vent your BOV without proper MAFT setup you'll run rich in between shifts.
-ADAM-

 

[daren_p]

ok i talked to that (friend) of mine and he said it was the same as what i said except the (45) was a 25 so i am lost on this one till i go look at the actual turbo itself on wed's anyways though i wanted to know what a resonable priced good temporary turbo i could get for my car... until i put all the mods for haveing(supporting) a turbo charged beast so i don't break/blowup anything. i also was curious about BOV i read the open element set up and mine is set up that way it's not running back into my air intake pipe wed's i should get my HKS short ram intake and i know it comes with a MAFS adapter but if it comes with the outlet off the pipeing for recirculation i don't know
thanks again to any feedback

First off don't vent your bov, hook it up to recirculate. Now for turbos, now we don't know exactly what it is as your lacking a proper description but you more then likely don't want it. It probably wont be a bolt on and will be a pain to install & you probably wont be happy with the performance, c'mon it was going on a Honda, how good could it be

But seriously you need to read some dsm tunning guides such as the one on this site or many dsm tuner shoop websites have the staged upgrades. Before you go upgrading the turbo start with the basics so your not putting the cart before the horse. Free up the intake, exhaust, get a boost gauge up the boost etc. Even on the tiny t25 with the proper mods you can see another 50 hp out of it over factory.

Once you have all the supporting mods then you want to look at turbo upgrades. With that you will also need to upgrade the fuel system and have a tunning method/logger etc. Good luck

Edit: Just read you already have a bov & boost controller/gauge

 

[RRevolveR]

alright i got the right name for the turbo it's a T-25 now is this one i should put on my car? ( i don't now jack about turbo's) or should i use the 14b?(or throw something at me)
my boost gauge reads like around 14-15 psi when i am getting on it when shifting into a gear or in 1st then once the shift is done the boost reading quickly goes down to around 11psi and will not hold 15psi so does this mean my boost isn't turned up to 15 psi and i need to? i have a pic of my bov set up it is open element and it idell's* like a champ as far as anyother neg effects i am not aware of (i do plan to recirculate it ... eventually ###### friday)
-Thanks for the feedback-

 

[VapedTalon]

The t-25 is what comes stock on your car. The 14b is a common small upgrade to a 2nd gen car. At what rpm is the boost starting to fall? If its right away then your bov is garbage . If its at high rpms then thats just the turbo falling out of its efficiency range. Also when your venting to atmosphere without a proper MAFT setup then you are getting rid of metered air.

 

[RRevolveR]

the boost psi readings go down from 15 to 11 around 4.5 rpm or after a slightly significant accel but the point is it doesn't stay around 15 psi only slighlty after acceleration or shifting then goes to 11 psi i haven't turned the boost up on my car so i don't know what the deal is really.

 

[daren_p]

the boost psi readings go down from 15 to 11 around 4.5 rpm or after a slightly significant accel but the point is it doesn't stay around 15 psi only slighlty after acceleration or shifting then goes to 11 psi i haven't turned the boost up on my car so i don't know what the deal is really.

Your boost is set correctly. The problem is the too small t25 factory turbo. It just isn't big enough to flow enough air to keep pushing 15 psi to the redline. This is normal & there really is nothing you can do to completely eliminate this (except upgrade the turbo). If you get the proper supporting mods (intake, exhaust, etc) to allow the air to flow better you will hold higher boost for longer.

There are a couple different t25's, but no you shouldn't put this on your car. One model will be the exact same turbo your car came with from the factory and the other one came on the SR20DET Nissan motors & it would be more of a pain then what its worth to try & bolt it onto your setup.

 

[olmytsi]

Do a 14b, you will not regret it!

 

[fwdeclipse]

Do a 14b for sure,I have one and its a huge difference over the stocker.You will need an install kit to put it in,but its worth it.

 

[1glaserturbo]

If your going to go through the trouble of getting the install kit for a 14b, why not spend the extra money on an evo 3 16g? It will add a lot more than the 14b, but you'll need some extra supporting mods if you don't have any already. I.E. exhaust, injectors, fuel pump, safc, intake, (maybe upgraded intercooler and piping).




Chris

 

[dsm-onster]

If your going to go through the trouble of getting the install kit for a 14b, why not spend the extra money on an evo 3 16g? It will add a lot more than the 14b, but you'll need some extra supporting mods if you don't have any already. I.E. exhaust, injectors, fuel pump, safc, intake, (maybe upgraded intercooler and piping).




Chris

I was going to add that too. But remember that a 14b can be had for $150 via bidding on ebay. But if you want new go for the EVO3. Either should stomp a lightly modded (intake, header-back, grabby clutch, and good rubber) GT Mustang. I would think a good driver would do well with your t-25. I'm not saying you're not a good driver though.

Either way you choose, remember to get a logger first to monitor your timing retard (indicates knock). There's nothing worse than to be in the lead in a run and have your head gasket let go. All the V8 boys will say: "Yea, she's quick. But no 4banger can handle that kind of power long."

 

[dalatinromeo]

I was going to add that too. But remember that a 14b can be had for $150 via bidding on ebay. But if you want new go for the EVO3. Either should stomp a lightly modded (intake, header-back, grabby clutch, and good rubber) GT Mustang. I would think a good driver would do well with your t-25. I'm not saying you're not a good driver though.

I would go towards the 16G route if wanting new too. Well, I won't pay 150 for a 14b either. I would only pay 150 if its in GREAT CONDITION.

Either way you choose, remember to get a logger first to monitor your timing retard (indicates knock). There's nothing worse than to be in the lead in a run and have your head gasket let go. All the V8 boys will say: "Yea, she's quick. But no 4banger can handle that kind of power long."

Yup, isn't the reactions on their faces that makes your day, when you do take the V8 boys.

 

[Spooling99]

If you decide to go with the 16g make sure you get the proper supporting fuel mods Im sure you'll love the 16g. Good luck
-ADAM-

 

[dsm-onster]

I would go towards the 16G route if wanting new too. Well, I won't pay 150 for a 14b either. I would only pay 150 if its in GREAT CONDITION.


Yup, isn't the reactions on their faces that makes your day, when you do take the V8 boys.

Oh yea. Then I always add: "Hmm, maybe she needs a tune-up?"

 

[RRevolveR]

ok i think i am gonna ask my buddy if he has a 14b that he might give me. I know he has some blown 16g's for 100 $ and 14b's, don't know who can fix em around here, or if it's even worth fixing one.
Now the exhaust i looked at was the HKS Ti carbon catback system for around $700 bucks, is this worth it? and does anyone know of a better deal?
If i get this system does anyone know of a good highflow cat, O2 housing, and downpipe that i should buy to put on with it.
Thats all for now, i am tired and sick. So i'm going to bed.
-thanks for the feed back-

 

[n2orbit]

ok i think i am gonna ask my buddy if he has a 14b that he might give me. I know he has some blown 16g's for 100 $ and 14b's, don't know who can fix em around here, or if it's even worth fixing one.
Now the exhaust i looked at was the HKS Ti carbon catback system for around $700 bucks, is this worth it? and does anyone know of a better deal?
If i get this system does anyone know of a good highflow cat, O2 housing, and downpipe that i should buy to put on with it.
Thats all for now, i am tired and sick. So i'm going to bed.
-thanks for the feed back-

I would say its a good exhaust.. to give an idea i went with megan racing.. got there downpipe and 3" exhaust. total spent was 365 bucks.. its stainless steel and looks great.. and its sounds AWSOME

 

[dsmgrimreaper]

buy all the supporting mods like intercooler piping, all your fuel mods, a boost controler afc, something other then stock blow off vavle cause they leak, and then save up and buy fp anything youl like it alot

 

[BlackbirdOfPrey]

Waaaaaay too much for a catback. I got a whole Stainless steel turbo back in 3" for just a little more than that. You can do better. Check local shops, they are your best bet.