Think my auto car came with a 14b

[krazy4]

Just picked up a 92 gsx auto.

From what I've read these are supposed to come with the smaller 13g turbo.
However the compressor side of the turbo on the car says TD05H which Is bigger than a 13g.

Car looks completely stock everywhere under the hood, so I'm wondering if the previous owner swapped to a 14b turbo or im just retarded.

Thanks for the help.

 

[95TalonOwner]

Post a picture of the compressor wheel and we'll know for sure. TD05H is definitely not a 13g housing though.

 

[4cedFed]

If is says td05 and not td04 it's a 14b or possibly a 16g, most likely swapped by previous owner.

Pics would definatly pin point it.

 

[4Lurker4]

You can check via this list to get an answer: http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/articles-turbo-system-intercooler/313105-16g-serial-numbers.html

 

[krazy4]

Post a picture of the compressor wheel and we'll know for sure. TD05H is definitely not a 13g housing though.

If is says td05 and not td04 it's a 14b or possibly a 16g, most likely swapped by previous owner.

Pics would definatly pin point it.

You can check via this list to get an answer: http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/articles-turbo-system-intercooler/313105-16g-serial-numbers.html

I'll take a picture of it tomorrow. Hopefully it's a 14b, that'd be sweet. I would cry from happiness if it was a 16g.

 

[dsm'r sk1mp]

The only way we could tell if its a 14 or 16 is if you take a picture of the turbine OR there will be a code on the side of the compressor housing. That code you can use it and search on google to see if its a 14 or 16. The only way that code will be wrong is if the previous owner boutght that turbo from a mechanic that did a 16 build on a stock 14b compressor housing.(doubtfull)

 

[bryanwheat]

The only way we could tell if its a 14 or 16 is if you take a picture of the turbine OR there will be a code on the side of the compressor housing. That code you can use it and search on google to see if its a 14 or 16. The only way that code will be wrong is if the previous owner boutght that turbo from a mechanic that did a 16 build on a stock 14b compressor housing.(doubtfull)

Or you can look at the compressor wheel. The 14b will have fins that are all the same size. The 16g will have one tall, one short.

 

[Bud92gsx]

I would suggest getting a manual manifold or 2g manifold.The 1g auto manifold is horribly small.

 

[dsm'r sk1mp]

Or you can look at the compressor wheel. The 14b will have fins that are all the same size. The 16g will have one tall, one short.

I believe I said taking a picture of the turbine or the code on the side but yes your correct

 

[bryanwheat]

I believe I said taking a picture of the turbine or the code on the side but yes your correct

A picture of the turbine wheel does nothing to help identify a compressor wheel. The turbine wheel on a 14b and a 16g are the same tdo5 wheel.

 

[dsm'r sk1mp]

A picture of the turbine wheel does nothing to help identify a compressor wheel. The turbine wheel on a 14b and a 16g are the same tdo5 wheel.

Correct me if wrong but a picture would show whether the fins are the same or tall and short

 

[bryanwheat]

Correct me if wrong but a picture would show whether the fins are the same or tall and short

A picture of the compressor wheel yes, but a picture of the turbine wheel will show you nothing about the compressor wheel.

 

[dsm'r sk1mp]

Well thank you for clearing that up, I didn't know personally what the difference was between the turbine wheel and compressor wheel. Probly cause I never rebuilt a turbo my self, just replaced them.

 

[Bud92gsx]

To back up bryan, the 16g, and 14b turbine wheel are the same.Compressor wheel is the only thing that is different.

Same as 13g's and 15g's,turbine wheels are the same, again with different compressor wheels.

 

[19Eclipse90]

So everyone here can be clear on the correct terminology:

Compressor is on the cold or intake side.
Turbine is on the hot or exhaust side.

 

[dsm'r sk1mp]

Learn something new every day

 

[krazy4]

Thanks for all the info guys. I'll be checking it out tomorrow.

 

[1990AWD]

I would suggest getting a manual manifold or 2g manifold.The 1g auto manifold is horribly small.

I don't think a 14b bolts to a 13g manny, but either way, if someone swapped on a 14b, I hope they'd know to do the manifold too.

 

[4cedFed]

I don't think a 14b bolts to a 13g manny, but either way, if someone swapped on a 14b, I hope they'd know to do the manifold too.

Just to clarify yes they do, all 1g turbos use the same manifold, which is the same as the 2g just flows less. Uses the standard square mitsu flange.

 

[1990AWD]

Just to clarify yes they do, all 1g turbos use the same manifold, which is the same as the 2g just flows less. Uses the standard square mitsu flange.

1g manuals have a different manifold than 1g autos because of the different turbos. Reason is the 14b has a 6cm housing and the tiny 13g has a 5cm.

 

[4cedFed]

1g manuals have a different manifold than 1g autos because of the different turbos. Reason is the 14b has a 6cm housing and the tiny 13g has a 5cm.

Never owned an auto, always assumed they were same manifold as the 14b. Good info.

 

[19Eclipse90]

Definitely not the same for all 1G turbo cars.

 

[Bud92gsx]

I don't think a 14b bolts to a 13g manny, but either way, if someone swapped on a 14b, I hope they'd know to do the manifold too.

I have both.I can try and see if it will bolt up.Here is a better pic of the difference between manifolds.The runners as you can see in the other pic are smaller on the auto manifold.

 

[4cedFed]

I still think it will bolt up regardless.

Being efficient is another story.

 

[Bud92gsx]

I can bolt it up.It looks like the same flange.I mean if enough people want me to I'll go over to starage and get my auto manifold.