suggestions for my parts list :)

[s3x_rapt0r]

hey guys i am putting together a list of parts for my talon so i know what path to take i am picking it up on monday ok right now i am thinking of getting

1. Ebay cold air intake
2. Megan or e bay test pipes
3. OBX headers
4. HKS or Apexi catback
5. HKS cams
6. HKS timing belt
7. EPROM ecu upgrade
8. any brand of lightweight pulleys
9. NGK plugs with a set of 8.5 wires or thicker then OEM
10. balance shaft eliminator kit
11. venom intake manifold
12. Venom fuel rail

anybody got any suggestions let me know i wanna try to make the best N/A talon i can dont hate for the e bay intake and test pipes i used plenty of e bay intakes and there just as good as the AEMs same with the test pipes mostly any suggestions especially on suspension parts will be appreciated

 

[DGajre777]

1.8 4G37 N/T or 2.0 4G63 N/T?

 

[s3x_rapt0r]

1.8 4G37 N/T or 2.0 4G63 N/T?

i didnt get the chance to pop the hood yet but i think its a 2.0 reason i didnt get the chance to is the guy whos selling is leaving it at a garage and the place was closed when we met up and they keys were inside the place i think all 92s are 2.0s right i could be wrong at least the stuff i found on wiki said that

 

[nuclearr]

From 90-94 there are two differnt N/A motors most common is the 1.8 The less common is the 2.0. There are not alot of aftermarket parts for the 1.8 unless you modifty parts to fit. And you can't make alot of power. If you want perfomace on a 1st gen N/A you want the 2.0. Plus in the future (if you want) with the 2.0 you can do a turbo upgrade. I have owned several of each and I tryed to get more hp out the 1.8 and kept turing them in to handgrenades.

 

[s3x_rapt0r]

From 90-94 there are two differnt N/A motors most common is the 1.8 The less common is the 2.0. There are not alot of aftermarket parts for the 1.8 unless you modifty parts to fit. And you can't make alot of power. If you want perfomace on a 1st gen N/A you want the 2.0. Plus in the future (if you want) with the 2.0 you can do a turbo upgrade. I have owned several of each and I tryed to get more hp out the 1.8 and kept turing them in to handgrenades.

i think its the 2.0 on wiki it says 1993 was the first year that the 1.8 came out and i am gettin a 92 so i hope wikipedia is right so for now im assuming its a 2.0 the guy didnt seem to know wich one it was when i asked him over the phone he kind of just said uhhhhhh i dont know

 

[talonsteve25]

When you say pullies you dont mean the crank pully to right? Keep the balancer bad idea to get red of it.

 

[s3x_rapt0r]

When you say pullies you dont mean the crank pully to right? Keep the balancer bad idea to get red of it.

nah i dont think so unless that also comes in a pulley set but if its a bad idea i proably wont do it

 

[Oldsid]

The 1992 model does come with 1.8 engine. I have the 1992 dealer's service manual and it clearly shows the 1.8 engine as one of three engine available for that year. Stay away from the 1.8; it is really not worth the hassle.

 

[s3x_rapt0r]

The 1992 model does come with 1.8 engine. I have the 1992 dealer's service manual and it clearly shows the 1.8 engine as one of three engine available for that year. Stay away from the 1.8; it is really not worth the hassle.

damn this charts misleading then

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i cant get the chart to post but ill take your word for it then but if you wanan see what i was reading its here File:Talon Eclipse Laser production.png - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia this better be a 2.0 or id be driving an hour for nothing

 

[DSMTriad]

If you have a 1.8L enjoy that great gas mileage. If you have the 2.0L and you really want it to stay non-turbo:

Cold air intake
62mm Throttle body
Intake Manifold
Header/Downpipe(4-2-1, or custom 4-1)
Cat-back exhaust
Hi-flow Cat
Lightweight pulleys
Aluminum radiator
Larger Cams/adj. cam gears
port/polish head
springs, retainers, oversized valves
Re-wired 190lph fuel pump, larger fuel rail, 390cc or 450cc injectors
4G64 Bottom end(2.4L)
BS removal
Higher compression pistons
Lightweight flywheel
Act 2100, 2600 clutch
engine mounts
Turbo FWD or AWD trans(there stronger)
Turbo Eprom/ECMLink V3
Serious weight reduction

Its extreme and not brand specific just what you would need to make power. NTs don't have air being forced in. So making sure the engine can draw in air easier is a must (polishing intake manifold and ports). 2G heads might be better for NTs due to the smaller ports having more air velocity. The 4G64(2.4L), high comp pistons, and headwork will be where you'll make your power the most. The turbo ecu would allow you to use the knock sensor and you can tune it with ECMlink. The higher the compression the higher chances of knock unless you use high octane fuel(93+).

Its a lot especially when you can just put a turbo on making 2x more power for less than a third of the price. Something to think about.

 

[s3x_rapt0r]

If you have a 1.8L enjoy that great gas mileage. If you have the 2.0L and you really want it to stay non-turbo:

Cold air intake
62mm Throttle body
Intake Manifold
Header/Downpipe(4-2-1, or custom 4-1)
Cat-back exhaust
Hi-flow Cat
Lightweight pulleys
Aluminum radiator
Larger Cams/adj. cam gears
port/polish head
springs, retainers, oversized valves
Re-wired 190lph fuel pump, larger fuel rail, 390cc or 450cc injectors
4G64 Bottom end(2.4L)
BS removal
Higher compression pistons
Lightweight flywheel
Act 2100, 2600 clutch
engine mounts
Turbo FWD or AWD trans(there stronger)
Turbo Eprom/ECMLink V3
Serious weight reduction

Its extreme and not brand specific just what you would need to make power. NTs don't have air being forced in. So making sure the engine can draw in air easier is a must (polishing intake manifold and ports). 2G heads might be better for NTs due to the smaller ports having more air velocity. The 4G64(2.4L), high comp pistons, and headwork will be where you'll make your power the most. The turbo ecu would allow you to use the knock sensor and you can tune it with ECMlink. The higher the compression the higher chances of knock unless you use high octane fuel(93+).

Its a lot especially when you can just put a turbo on making 2x more power for less than a third of the price. Something to think about.

true thanks for all the help there i didnt even remember to put in the throttle body everywhere im reading on the net says the 1.9 wasnt offered till 93 im kinda worried now they were in the laser in 92 im really hoping google is being my friend today there no way im gonna love the 1.8 if it has one it just makes the chance of ricers actually keeping up a little higher

 

[DSMTriad]

I wouldn't even buy the 1.8 if your looking for power or modification options. At least with the 2.0 you can buy a lot of parts used on the FWD Turbo.

 

[s3x_rapt0r]

I wouldn't even buy the 1.8 if your looking for power or modification options. At least with the 2.0 you can buy a lot of parts used on the FWD Turbo.

yea im definitally not going ot go for the 1.8 even after a hour drive i SO hope wikipedia and google are telling the trtuh that the 1.8 wasnt offered till 93 on talons or else i am not going ot be a very happy camper the next few weeks till i find another talon

 

[DSMTriad]

yea im definitally not going ot go for the 1.8 even after a hour drive i SO hope wikipedia and google are telling the trtuh that the 1.8 wasnt offered till 93 on talons or else i am not going ot be a very happy camper the next few weeks till i find another talon

Just to help you out a bit I never saw a 90-92 1.8 talon. And I searched around all I see is 93-94 talons being 1.8L.

 

[s3x_rapt0r]

Just to help you out a bit I never saw a 90-92 1.8 talon. And I searched around all I see is 93-94 talons being 1.8L.

thank you now i got some peace of mind knowing im not the only one who cant find anything on 1.8 talons ive had my friend who owns a 92 himself say make sure its not a 1.8 hes wrong

 

[nuclearr]

I worked for chrysler 90-94 talons can have a 1.8 I owned a 94 1.8 also owned a 91 1.8. If you want fuel economy and no power go 1.8. If you want to make hp get the 2.0. There are almost no bolt-on parts for the 1.8.