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2G Starter not working

Posted by John Miller, May 21, 2020

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  1. John Miller

    John Miller Proven Member

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    Hello my fellow dsm addicts!

    I am currently rebuilding my first dsm and I am very close to attempting to start it for the first time. I recently plugged in a battery to make sure all my connections are good and all the cabin accessories work and head/tail lights. I wanted to turn the motor over so I could make sure it would, in fact, turn over. When I turn the key all the way to engage to starter, the starter does not turn on at all. The clutch pedal is in (master cylinder isn't bled) and trans is in neutral but still no luck. I can hear a relay clicking from inside the car which makes me feel the battery is trash, but even plugged in, the starter refuses to engage. There is no fuel pump/tank on the car right now but I don't know why that would effect anything. Also the engine only has a quart of oil (enough to just test the starter for a brief second) and the oil temp wire is not hooked up. All connections within the engine bay look good. What am I doing wrong?
     

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  2. Esquire the Bold

    Esquire the Bold Probationary Member

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    Did you check the starter relay?
     

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  3. jinscho

    jinscho Proven Member

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    Before diving into the relay, start by verifying you have the starter wires in the engine bay connected. There is a connection between the positive terminal of the battery harness and the starter trigger wire that people tend to forget to plug back in. It’s a black with yellow stripe wire that runs to a 2 pin connector, it’s counterpart in the main harness terminates near the coolant temp sensor.

    Once you verify that is connected, one thing you need to keep in mind is that the starter relay activates to DISABLE the starter solenoid on a M/T, if it’s clicking it could be a bad relay, however it could also be a bad clutch safety switch.

    Unplug the clutch safety switch and try to start it. If the clicking persists, the next step is to bypass the starter relay (located behind the radio, easiest way to access it is to pull the passenger side kick panel). Simply jump one of the Black/Red wires to the Black/Yellow wire. If the car starts, you have a bad relay.
     

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  4. TK's9d2TSi

    TK's9d2TSi Supporting Member

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    I'd start by checking for 12v at the trigger wire. Key has to be in start position. No voltage, you have an electrical issue. 12v, you have a bad starter.
     

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  5. John Miller

    John Miller Proven Member

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    Aight so since I am a dumb boi, I forgot to plug the small two plug black wire in..........works now :D
     

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  6. jinscho

    jinscho Proven Member

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    Don't feel bad, I did the same thing 3 weeks ago.. that's why I had all of the diagnostic steps ready to go for you. My issue was a little more in depth, but the first issue I found was that connection.
     

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  7. TK's9d2TSi

    TK's9d2TSi Supporting Member

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    Always go over your work..ALWAYS!!! Glad you figured it out
     

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