So whats next???????????

[JOEY A]

Had a evoIII 16G MAXED OUT


I will not post up times it ran, but it was very fast for what it was




So whats the next setup? Im looking to go onto a reliable setup, and somthing thats not a pain in the ass to tune...


1,000cc and a GT35R with .83 hot side is a pain in the ass, somone i know has this and that isnt somthing im looking to do..

 

[snox135]

With your car profile filled out the way it is, it will be hard for people to help you. How hard something is to tune depends on what you are tuning with and supporting mods.

 

[JOEY A]

I took off my mod list for the new owner of my car, but I ended up buying it back....



Car has a built trans, and motor(272s)

Im just looking for injectors, a turbo, manifold,and a ECU setup....


Once I pick out my turbo, ill buy the rest of the parts to go along with it

 

[JOEY A]

Car has all supporting mods blah blah

 

[snox135]

The next step up for a turbo would be a 20g or 50 trim. I would look into the FP3052 with the new FP manifold. If you are going to get DSMLink I would just get 1000cc injectors and be done with it. What are you currently using to tune the maxed out e316g? If you have proper equiptment to tune and supporting mods the 1000cc/ GT35R is that hard to tune compared to maxing out a e316g.

 

[JOEY A]

Im looking at sotmhign around a GT30 ish....

 

[dsm-onster]

So whats the next setup? Im looking to go onto a reliable setup, and somthing thats not a pain in the ass to tune...


1,000cc and a GT35R with .83 hot side is a pain in the ass, somone i know has this and that isnt somthing im looking to do..

At the risk of bench racing, the only option that I see is a 50 trim compressor wheel or a 20g compressor wheel.

W/ 272s and a "built block" that can handle 8500 rpm shifts, there's no reason to think that you'll be at the surge line w/a GT35R (56 trim) compressor wheel.

What do you mean by "pain in the ass"? What different concepts do you use to tune a 16g or 60-1 or a 56 trim type wheel?

Do you mean lag? If you don't like the lag, get a smaller turbine housing and a deal w/ the loss up top. No matter what reasonable turbine housing you choose, you will have more total flow than your evo3 td05h (& 7cm^2 housing) turbine. AND, you'll have more lag. . . Which can be negated w/ a downshift. Besides you have a 'built trans'. Just operate at higher revs.

You COULD go w/ the 20g wheel mated to a td05h turbine wheel. But even w/ an 8cm^housing, I don't see the point in the upgrade from a maxed out evo3 16g. The 20g doesn't stay that much more efficient at 30 psi than the evo3 16g, nore does the hotside flow more. I'd try an upgraded turbine housing first. IMHO, the SMALL 16G and the 7cm housing w/ the 05H wheel is perfect. The evo3 16g, 18g, 20g wheels are restricted ffrom their potential for the sake of street spool. . . . Which can be negated w/ a downshift. Besides you have a 'built trans'. Just operate at higher revs.

The evo3 16g chokes at 590 cfm. . . cfm X .08 ≈ lb/min. So you're flowing 47 lbs/min? a larger turbine housing will net you some more lbs/min and keep this compressor operational for you. But, going bigger means lag. Tuning is still the same. Lean out where you can; add timing where you can. It takes the same steps, the same concept, the same time. Head gaskets get more finicky, and so do internals. But you're 'built'.

No offense, but if you did your homework when maxing out your evo3 16g, then you really wouldn't need to ask this question. . .

 

[JOEY A]

I dont want a 50trim or 20G



Whats the point? My evoIII put most 20G and 50trim cars to shame



Im looking for other people without FOLLOW THE LEADER setups

 

[JOEY A]

Pain in the ass to me is old dinosour turbos thats have more lag than power out put..


20G and 18gs shouldnt be talked about it, im not interested in them at all...


EVOIIIs are more efficent than 18gs

 

[snox135]

Pain in the ass to me is old dinosour turbos thats have more lag than power out put..


20G and 18gs shouldnt be talked about it, im not interested in them at all...


EVOIIIs are more efficent than 18gs

GT35R has more lag than power

You already have the 16g so your following the leader wether you like it or not. Now if you want something completly different than everybody else, you should have said that in the orignal post

 

[JOEY A]

I already got some answers from WISEMEN


Thanks bringing this off topic

 

[JOEY A]

GT35R has more lag than power

You already have the 16g so your following the leader wether you like it or not. Now if you want something completly different than everybody else, you should have said that in the orignal post

Please dont fill my thread up with junk

 

[dsm-onster]

Pain in the ass to me is old dinosour turbos thats have more lag than power out put..

What is more lag than power out ? According to Garrett, a ballistic chra has only 15% quicker spool than it's non-ball-bearing counterpart. Are you interested in boost threshold or transient response?

20G and 18gs shouldnt be talked about it, im not interested in them at all...

That's fine. I have to correct myself about the 18g though, the choke is 640 cfm and the choke of the evo3 is 625.

I'm a little confused as to why you don't want to talk about a 20G compressor wheel that flows enough for 570 hp? You havn't stated a goal. Just that you don't want a GT35R:

My evoIII put most 20G and 50trim cars to shame

How many confirmed 500 hp cars have you beaten? Where's your track timeslip? Please don't feel that I'm doubting you I'm just doubting your competition.

EVOIIIs are more efficent than 18gs

I guarantee you have no proof of that!

 

[nanokpsi]

Pain in the ass to me is old dinosour turbos thats have more lag than power out put..


20G and 18gs shouldnt be talked about it, im not interested in them at all...


EVOIIIs are more efficent than 18gs

Thats just people with with bolt on t3/t4 turbos and less than ideal set ups. My dinosaur turbo does pretty well
If your car puts most 50 trim cars to shame, get a DBB 50 trim with a big hotside. SHould get you solidly into the 10s

 

[JOEY A]

Stop Posting Bs In My Thread

 

[JOEY A]

What is more lag than power out ? According to Garrett, a ballistic chra has only 15% quicker spool than it's non-ball-bearing counterpart. Are you interested in boost threshold or transient response?




That's fine. I have to correct myself about the 18g though, the choke is 640 cfm and the choke of the evo3 is 625.

I'm a little confused as to why you don't want to talk about a 20G compressor wheel that flows enough for 570 hp? You havn't stated a goal. Just that you don't want a GT35R:

How many confirmed 500 hp cars have you beaten? Where's your track timeslip? Please don't feel that I'm doubting you I'm just doubting your competition.



I guarantee you have no proof of that!

STOP STOP AND STOP


Go piss some were else


Call up FP and other turbo shops if you doubt my statment on 18Gs

 

[JOEY A]

Thats just people with with bolt on t3/t4 turbos and less than ideal set ups. My dinosaur turbo does pretty well
If your car puts most 50 trim cars to shame, get a DBB 50 trim with a big hotside. SHould get you solidly into the 10s

haha

 

[snox135]

Please dont fill my thread up with junk

First off it's not YOUR thread, you do not own it.

If you don't want people to disagree with you then don't post opinions not based on facts.

The thread has not gotten off topic, we are just trying to help you. But you refuse to give us all the info on what you are using and looking for.

Good luck with your new set up

 

[JOEY A]

Power out put

450whp( or better)


Mid 11s with a nice trap speed

 

[JOEY A]

First off it's not YOUR thread, you do not own it.

If you don't want people to disagree with you then don't post opinions not based on facts.

The thread has not gotten off topic, we are just trying to help you. But you refuse to give us all the info on what you are using and looking for.

Good luck with your new set up

Maybe becasue the car is a street car and I dont like for people in the area to know what I have?

 

[nanokpsi]

haha

I don't see whats so funny. Since your et/trap/weight is probably a mystery, I guess I should say the turbo I mentioned should get you another 100 or so whp and still be fun to drive.

 

[JOEY A]

Im going with a older setup, that most newbies wouldnt know about or care to research


Thanks, dont need help anymore

 

[oldman]

JOEYA, Learn to play nice before you post again asking for help.