Sleepy Eyes [Merged 9-7] snake snakeyes half chicklet mod

[sjutrettioett]

well supposedly not supposed to effect the fogs. but my fogs are set to always be on. and they dont work nemore.. sooo i dunno. some peeps dont use fogs. Neways anyone know a work around, or does anyones fogs still work with this mod?

 

[rab]

i'v seen other peoples cars on this page that have there headlights(the pop up headlight years) only pop up half way i would like to do that to my 90 talon turbo but can't find any info on doing it, i don't know if that's called the lazy eye look or what, but i would like to know because my headlights don't pop up at all one of the motor's is meesed up and need to fix so i thought someone could help me out. Also i'v only had my talon for a few days and don't have much knowledge on dsm's at all.
so please help me
thanks ryan

 

[steve12345]

There's two red knobs in the engine bay off to the left side and the right side right above the headlights they have a circular type arrow on them just keep turning them to whatever height that you want the lights at.

 

[skud_dusty]

will the lights always stay at this height or just when they are turned on or "popped up"?

 

[steve12345]

I have never tried that so I am not sure about it, but I am guessing they will just stay at that height and not go down.

 

[mitsuspeed]

if u want them to stay up just push in the button that keeps them up when you turn the car off....duh ....

 

[ECTurboDSM]

It's rather easy. If you want them to look like that though, they have to stay like that all of the time. Do what was said above, with the red knobs, but then you have to unplug the motors. Just pull out the plug right below the adjustment knobs. Otherwise, the motor overrides your adjustment and goes back to normal. The pic below is of mine.

 

[ECTurboDSM]

It's rather easy. If you want them to look like that though, they have to stay like that all of the time. Do what was said above, with the red knobs, but then you have to unplug the motors. Just pull out the plug right below the adjustment knobs. Otherwise, the motor overrides your adjustment and goes back to normal. The pic below is of mine.

 

[badboyr66]

Originally posted by cianide
all you have to do is pull the solenoid... it is on the passenger side right by the door underneath the panel and it is a little white box that will have 3 connectors on it, just pull that out of the connector and then you can control you headlights like this.
turn them on.... the lights stay down and they come one
turn lights off... push the button on the dash to pop the lights, then turn you lights on and then you will have normal useage of the lights.
this will not affect your fogs in any way.

chris

My fog lights don't work after i pulled it, it is weird

 

[k3k0a]

ive owned 4 1g cars, and ive done this to every one of them, and every single time i have to re-wire the foglights to the headlights, that little white box u pull out IS connected to the foglights, the way i did it was just re-wire the fog lights to the lowbeam of your headlights. but make sure u connect them well, solder and cover the wires good, they tend to short easily when it rains

 

[nutshot]

Or pull the fogs for IC airflow...

 

[DSMTurboEclipse]

When I did this...I pulled out the fuse for the headlights. Worked fine for me but its hard to see with your lights flipped down.

 

[Violated_DSM]

you can also cut out the backs of the lenses so more light gets through. also you can buy and H4 converson kit so you can use better bulbs and not the entire lamp.

 

[NAT01]

Here's one for ya. I've heard about people saying that running your headlights while in the down position on a 90-91 dsm("Snake Eyes"), is illegal. If this is true, then can you have the lights down, but on, and run the car during the daytime? like daytime running lights? is that ok? i could see the whole at night thing with the lights, but what about the daytime? thanks for any help

 

[stuffy1256]

that wouldnt be illegal... its just like having your lights on during the day... no problem there.... i like the snake eyes thing.... i did that in my brothers 1g 3kgt a lot when i drove it....looks really cool

 

[3L3C7R0]

I bet it is illegal, not during the day, but at night. You don't light the rd properly.

 

[nutshot]

A cop can get you for anything. I have been pulled over for my factory fogs being illminated during the day. Of course no ticket, but a huge waste of time. Don't worry about legality of minor stuff, they will get you for things that aren't illegal anyway.

 

[Enzo]

is there a manual way to bring my popup up and down? it seems one of them is stuck in a lazy eyed half raised and I would like to be able to raise and lower them....

anyone?

 

[Flat Lined]

There is a knob with a rubber cap just behind the popup. When your hood is up there is a rubber bumber with an arrow on it, the cap is behind that close to the fender.

 

[ArcticTsi]

In the time I have been in the states I have received hundreds of e-mails about this mod. Not about the function or purpose, but rather how to do it. Well, somebody finally asked. This is a letter I wrote last night to a fellow DSM'r. It's long, but if you want to be in the know, read on.

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Dan,
Hey there again. Well, I apologize for that spreading through the DSM community like wildfire. When I got here from Japan I was actually surprised that no DSMs or none that I seen were running this mod. Then when I finally decided to post pictures of my car and taking it to events, you would of thought I invented it. But no such luck. This has been a standard mod for cars with pop-up headlights in Japan since about 89'. Originally the purpose was two fold. Both are for Road Racing, AutoX, Gymkhana, and of course Drifting. I'm sure you know that when racing on open courses how much you are on the gas or brakes. In the old days allot of these racing was done at night and the racers were called "bozozoku". The old "Lazy Eyes" or "Sleepy Eyes" had self-level devices in the homemade kits. So before the racing what the guys would do is adjust the lights so that the beam was exactly were they wanted it on the road. As you know pop-ups are notorious for aiming off into space. Well, anyway, with the lights set at the desired angle on the road the self leveling mechanism would keep the beam always at that angle(on the road) regardless of the orientation or pitch of the rest of the car. In a nutshell when accelerating the a$$ of the car dips and under hard braking the nose of the car dips. But with the self-leveling kit the beam is always focused on the road. That is old school reason number one for the lights orientation. Reason 2, It was discovered that when the pop-up light was in a sleepy position under hood temps would drop a little. In Japan we can gut a car, run no bumper reinforcements and allot of racer friendly mods like that, but must run headlights to pass inspection. Well racers soon learned of the underhood temps dropping and took it a step further. they would gut everything around the pop-up mechanism and relocate their air cleaners behind the pop-up lights mechanism. Basically the lid of the pop-up light acts as a cowl forcing the air to swirl around the light into the engine bay, mainly to the air filter. And you know cooler air means more power and a happier turbo engine since we run hot anyway. Most kits in Japan now just focus on the under hood temps(primarily air to the air-filter). Most kits also state that you can see a drop of 20 degrees at the air filter. The kits are a dime a dozen in Japan. But, I have only seen 1 or 2 types available here in the America. My kit was 20 bucks and is adjustable. The two I have seen here in the states are both about 100 dollars. The ones that are starting to catch on in the U.S. market are made by "Pivot", not to be confused with "Pilot". Pivot is a Japanese outfit. Here is a link to their US site and there newest kit available for the US market. You are one of the first to ask me the reason behind it. That impresses me. I kid you not when I say I have had several hundred e-mails in the year that I have been in the states with people asking how they can make their lights look like that. Not once had anyone asked the purpose. For them it was all cosmetic. I must tell you also that the term I used "Bozozoku" is no longer used for racers. It is a negative term now. Renegade motorist (cars & bikes) that go around in illegal vehicles creating a ruckus and vandalism are now referred to as "Bozozoku", so now it has negative connotations. Hope this helps you out. I may just post this in some of the forums around these parts to enlighten the ones who were doing just to be doing it. So when someone asks them what's the point they can respond intelligently.

Take care,
Jose
Arctic Racing


ps. here is that link to Pivot USA

Once at the home page, select accessories, It is called "pop-up headlight controller"

http://www.pivotusa.com/cgi-local/SoftCart.exe/?E+scstore

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Pic from the Pivot site showing the air flow

 

[Enzo]

awesome post! and i love how your car looks jose.

 

[Libila]

Thats awsome, when I get a 1g I think Ill give this a try.

www.pivotusa.com/cgi-local/SoftCart.exe/?E+scstore

Nice Post.

 

[Flat Lined]

I'd had done the Lazy eyes but I cut the clear part of the light below the pop-ups for even more flow, now I just need to gut more of the inside.

 

[badboyr66]

OOOK, here we go,

first, yes, I searched, and they all had the same thing but did not answer my question. I want it so the pop up function is only controlled from the pop up switch.

Well, I did the mod where you remove the diod form the passenger side kick panel. But when you do this the fog lights do not work. So I went back to the vfaq, and the damn page was removed from the link. On there, there was a way the fog lights still worked as normal. And there was a wiring trick you could do under the dash, so the headlights only came up with the pop up switch

If anyone has any REAL information and not guesses, it would be of help

 

[PaulPDX]

Perhaps some didn't ask because they already know or have guess the reasons behind it. Was pretty obvious to me...