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SBR Bastard 20g

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overdoseheroin said:
this turbo is sick. ive seen it blaze well into the 11's with the tdo6 exhaust wheel. curt brown ran 11.4@134 in his old FWD, mark from slowboy ran high 11's i believe in his 1g AWD. its pretty deceiving. im still waitin for mine to get back CRAGGER! LOL, jk. but its sick so step off. sorry if not having a huge snail under the hood gets me props from cornholes like some of you. id much rather blow away a big tdo6 20g with my "sleeper" 20g anyways.

So I take it that this was what you were running when you made 342 (I believe) FWHP?
 
SlowboyCSE said:
Cops can't tell it's not a 14B. I don't know about you guys but cops here they write tickets for whatever they feel like that day. 15 dollars for me missing a head light, 15 dollars for windows tint, 30 dollars for no muffler, 30 dollars for modfying the stock exhaust system. Last thing i need is them taking her to the impound.
What cop is going to know a tdo6h turbo isn't stock? Come on.

One headlight, tints, and no muffler is right up there with no saftey belt. I'd write tickets for that shit too.
 
Stapl3 said:
What cop is going to know a tdo6h turbo isn't stock? Come on.

One headlight, tints, and no muffler is right up there with no saftey belt. I'd write tickets for that shit too.

In comparison to something with garrett cover rather than an 05H compressor cover.

I've got tickets for everything :)
 
overdoseheroin said:
WRONG....14b on c16 nooka.

What did the boost start at/fall to?

Others have made ~300+whp on 14b's, too, I'm just wondering at what PSI.
 
overdoseheroin said:
WRONG....14b on c16 nooka.

well thats on a mustang dyno spiking 26 psi falling to 23. sooo whatever, because im savin my sleeper 20g dyno day for slowboy to witness my cars destruction!....but fack it. it still runs ill. these fools need the force of the ninja cragger. ninja riuken out.
 
soooo... everything i've got from this post is the turbo rocks, looks stock, and will bolt right up in place of the stock turbo. sounds like a great deal to me for someone interested in that kinda power.

i have also learned that if your not a ninja... you should be! but i will have to check my " cliff notes" on this matter....

LOL
 
98talonAWD said:
soooo... everything i've got from this post is the turbo rocks, looks stock, and will bolt right up in place of the stock turbo. sounds like a great deal to me for someone interested in that kinda power.

i have also learned that if your not a ninja... you should be! but i will have to check my " cliff notes" on this matter....

LOL

If you order the TDO6H CHRA version of a 20G (bastard, sleeper, standard etc. etc. etc.) YOU NEED A BANJO BOLT that is 12x1.5.

The standard TDO5H CHRA version uses a 12x1.25 banjo bolt.

A standard 10mm crush washer works with either bolt.

This is a video of Marko's first gen with a TDO6H bastard 20G / SBR Street Core / ETC. If you want me to post a dyno graph tommorow i can, but this is all i can do tonight (not at the shop). I'm a run what you brung kinda guy, but i have to make the excuse that this was only pull number two on this turbo that day it ended up making well over 370 if memory serves me right, he just runs negative timing on the street. ( Just kidding, he runs 2 :thumb: )

http://www.people.iup.edu/lclj/video/

CLICK IT FIRST, THEN RIGHT CLICK ON THE FILE ON THE SCREEN AND SAVE AS BOYS, if it gets shut down, it will probably exceed it's limit since it is a 9.8meg file and IUP.edu isn't into hosting car video's LOL.
 
boostin_2_high said:
It can make 330whp, but can it make 400? :D That is my question. My goal is 400 on the good stuff, but can the Bastard 20g get me there? It would be bad ass to make 400 on a stock appearing turbo :cool:


I second that, I know that I can make 330 at the wheels on a 16G, so I got to see some impressive numbers to go with a 20G that costs that kind of money.
 
Arghhhhh the car is sold fella's or i would make it a proven a fact and blow marko's car up for you in the process. I admited that it wasn't the best pull we ever had and i apologize for not bringing what we intended to run type of numbers!

The video might be slow, but it was posted by the slowest of the slowboy's.... Just a joke.

Cragger
 
SlowboyCSE said:
This is a video of Marko's first gen with a TDO6H bastard 20G / SBR Street Core / ETC. If you want me to post a dyno graph tommorow i can, but this is all i can do tonight (not at the shop). I'm a run what you brung kinda guy, but i have to make the excuse that this was only pull number two on this turbo that day it ended up making well over 370 if memory serves me right, he just runs negative timing on the street. ( Just kidding, he runs 2 :thumb: )

http://www.people.iup.edu/lclj/video/

CLICK IT FIRST, THEN RIGHT CLICK ON THE FILE ON THE SCREEN AND SAVE AS BOYS, if it gets shut down, it will probably exceed it's limit since it is a 9.8meg file and IUP.edu isn't into hosting car video's LOL.


I would like to see the mods of Marko's car during this test. Thanks.
 
devioustsi said:
I would like to see the mods of Marko's car during this test. Thanks.
I second that I would like to see some mods list. So we can know more or less what kind of setup we should have in order to produce those great almost 400HP dyno runs w/o blowing the motor. Should we build the motor or can the stock internals hold it. I wanted to run a basterd 20g on my car. If you look at my setup in my opinion all I need left to get is some injectors, fpr, of course 20g and tuning time. Whats your opinion on this setup ???
 
My qeustion hows the topend pull compared to a evoIII?


Does it keep pulling in 4th good?compared to a evo?
 
My qeustion hows the topend pull compared to a evoIII?


Does it keep pulling in 4th good?compared to a evo?

The top end in my FWD 1g was ferocious with the TD05H 20g. My buddys 1g FWD has close to the same setup and with a 16g before the cams were installed, definately felt a good bit slower than mine with the 20g up top.


Joe
SBR
 
What's the max boost recommendations on this turbo? Injectors? I have 550's right now. How well would that work? I have a T-67 sitting in the closet but thinkin I wanna go with a smaller turbo for a lil while. Just got another Dsm and don't wanna have to spend a fortune to get huge injectors, huge this, huge that. Wanna mod relatively cheaply. Need info. Thanks.
 
Wow. You must have been digging a long time to find this thread. I have no first hand experience with this turbo because I was talked out of it. It is my understanding that with the big wheels in the small 16g housing, the turbo heats up too much. I guess it gets inefficient at higher rpms, and falls apart after a couple thousand miles. I have no way to prove this, just what I have heard.
 
Bought another turbo today. Wasn't a bastard 20g.

Have my T-67 sitting in the closet and I'll just throw that on after I max out the turbo I bought. Clipping may be needed though.
 
Just bought an Evo 16g today mainly cause of this comment here...

I agree with you, the MHI evo III is a freaking unreal turbo, we have had many of turbo companies send us turbos to test that in theory should make more power than the MHI evo III, but none of them could quite match its potential.

At 15-17 PSI is where the bastard 20G made a bit more power than the MHI evo III, but at max boost they were almost identical.

Mike Huml

If they're almost identical at max boost, I don't wanna be paying over $230 more for a turbo that's not gonna be more impressive. And I figure if I start maxing it out, I can just send it off to get clipped. But the T-67 would probably be going on before I got to that point anyway. I just didn't see the justification of paying that much more money. And $330 more than that to get the TD06H housing.

If it were just some Joe Schmoe on this site saying this, I probably wouldn't even give it much thought cause everyone claims to be an "expert". But this comment was made from Mike Huml himself so I'll believe it more.
 
The G 50 is a great turbo. Just some minor fuel mods and a FMIC and you will be good for about 400-450 on a good tune.

More BS. Don't believe for a second that you're going to make 450hp with just a turbo and intercooler upgrade.
 
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