[RESOLVED] Another graduate of NGK university.

[FIBA M - EC17PSE]

Hello and sorry for the topic title I didn't know what to put ! Having a few problems and need a bit of help? I've searched what I can search for the last 2days and I'm now getting the same answers so befor I go further I wand EXPERT advise from the dsm world! As you all can see I have a 97-99 gst auto nothing big in mods just uicp,greddy bov type S, manifold, coil on plug and bosch super 4 plugs.
So on thursday I was driving and car was fine but thursday night started to jump/sputter/jerk/bogs hard to say but doing those kind of things and doesn't gain much power its never done this before and its not a boost leak as I've checked all the clamps fixings etc.
On my searches I've found these what it could be! They are:
Air filter/fuel filter
Ignition
Oxygen sensor
Egr system
Torque converter
Wastegate
Spark plugs
Injectors
Auto filter/ bands?? Seals??

These are what people say but its a big list so any other options? Recently done an oil change moble 1 as allways every 6 months cambelt done 8 k miles ago everything done with new coolant etc also noticed a little white smoke a few times 3 times recently only and it has rained on them days so could it be that cause the condensation for smoke? I have a cel light have done for about 2 months but goes away for ages then flickers on and then off again so everytime I try to read a code they can't coz it goes but its stayed on now and gona get the code looked at on monday hopefully! The gears are selecting ok and o/d works but just jumps etc when you give it gas!

I would really be thankful for any helpfull input and sorry for the newbie part but I'm not to up on the small terms like bs eliminator so please could you word them as normal if possible hehe thanks and I hope to sort this very soon. If you need more info that you need to know or I've forgot then sorry I will answer and help as much as I can also thanks again bobby

 

[GsXdSmKingGsX]

Well it could definitely be your headgasket too.. And I only say that because of the smoke you mentioned.. Check your oil for coolant

 

[95'RS-T]

Theres no MIL? i would check your ignition system including spark plugs, wires, and ignition.

EDIT: didn't see the part about the CEL you put in there but yeah i'd pull the codes and work from there its less hassle

 

[FIBA M - EC17PSE]

What's mil mean I'm not to up to date on these short words sorry could you put it in lamo terms haha. Also how would I check for coolant in my oil? I've never checked for this before! Lol

Also would a head gasket make it jump jerg bog like that? It seems to me fuel related but sound it also sounds like it misses/sputters when in park and warm! I've had a head gasket gone before on a french clio and I've not had it jump like this does unless its different on turbo cars?

Just checked my oil dipstick I've got small air bubbles on it as I pull it out? Also checked my coolent and it was a little low once I opened the cap how full should it be if car is off? Also foamed up aswell after a few minutes! Hope this helps more guys and so far thanks for the help I will update more in the week once I found the codes!

hi guys right ive topped up my coolant and its was a tad low so thats done! the white smoke was just condensation as theres no water in oil and no oil in water etc etc .

however we heard a tick or a click from under the coil on plug set and took that off and found one of the rubber plugs has split and we think it was sparking on the wall of the plug housing! would this be a cause of my sputtering and my cel light coming on? thats what we found anyway untill i get the codes tomorrow! any other help will help and will also look at that! cheers guys and girls

 

[dustinmp3]

change the boot and ck your plugs
the reaseon that it is cutting out and you are getting a noise is because on that wire they it is shorting out and when you get your codes i bet that it will come up with a missfire code
i think that will fix all your problems

and i don't know if you know this or not but the only people that can read the codes for that car is mits,chrysler or someone that has a solus pro scanner
just wanted to let you know

it takes more than just one 0bd2 connector
hope this helps you

 

[FIBA M - EC17PSE]

thats what im changing anyway as a precaution aswell as fuel filter ect doing it all now in one hit makes sence! and why is that then on the scanner? ive seen many people who use other scanners and they work fine? im taking it to a mitsubishi performance specalist in the uk so im sure they will have1 as they have everything for every mitsubishi made . as long as i just get the code then i can ask what that is on here cheers for the heads up thought mate appreciate it ALOT. if i have no luck on there scanner then i will have to take it to the usaf base here in england as they have hooked it up before. thanks again

 

[rbwtrans]

Get rid of those plugs! Bosch plugs suck! The +4's crack the porcelan under boost. Replace with NGK bpr6es. This will propably fix most of your problems.

 

[FIBA M - EC17PSE]

Ok are these normal plugs or irodium? As I'm getting a lot of items from jnztuning and that plug code I've seen on there they were only like $3 each something like that am I correct? Should I pay more and get irodium or just them normal ones you said to get? Cheers for the info mate

 

[Lofty]

The Normal ones, DSMs love the copper!

 

[odd-tay-lone]

ok does it stutter under wot(wide open throttle) ? that is often an ignition malfunction. def get the ngk plugs!!! replace your wires also while your at it. are you under stock boost? i had a stutter at wot and slight misfire at idle and when I replaced my plugs and wires she ran like a champ.

 

[TomcTSI]

Anyidea what code its throwing ? Anything change after the car warms up ? Could also be something like a leeky cap in the ECU

 

[cfriddle]

Get rid of those plugs! Bosch plugs suck! The +4's crack the porcelan under boost. Replace with NGK bpr6es. This will propably fix most of your problems.

I'm glad someone brought those stupid bosh plugs up!!! Run nipendenso iridums or better yet throw some NGK's in there and you should be fine.

 

[FIBA M - EC17PSE]

cheers im gona get the ngk bpr6es plugs from jnz tuning! ive been told i have a miss fire in cyl 1 & 2 2 is because of my split boot and 1 is im guessing because of the plugs! so im going to change the plugs and get a new boot for the coil.

yes it does it does it on 3/4 - full throttle! it was making the lamba sensor picking up lean mixture so once ive done these things im hoping it will all be a ok! great work guys thanks alot

also these plugs what should i gap them at? or will they come gapped already? and lastly are they normal plugs or copper or platinum?

 

[lacroixdp]

Gap to .28 - they are copper. You don't want to run Platinum in a turbocharged car - the tips stay very hot and can cause detonation under boost. Your missing might be your coil on plug setup as well. Speaking from personal experience, the stock setup is better than COP under almost all circumstances. IMHO, it's adding a level of complexity to a setup that's completely unnecessary.

 

[odd-tay-lone]

coil on plug setup as well. Speaking from personal experience, the stock setup is better than COP under almost all circumstances. .

oh did i say wires? my bad forgot all about you having a COP setup.let us know what goes on when you fix ## plugs and boot

 

[FIBA M - EC17PSE]

I know what you mean about the cop and I can agree and disagree I'm going to consider putting the stock plugs back on with the best wires I can find! But am also considering a more expensive approuch on the cop setup with the comp box that it runs through cdi I think its called or spark lite I think! But either way will look and ask plenty of questions before hand but thank you for that and will def take that on board and consider everything you have said!
Also I will keep this tread posted on my out come and what has come about it etc will proberly be a few weeks as I'm in the uk and ordering and shipping etc isn't gona be fast but just keep and eye out and ill let you all know I'm changing more then the plugs and boots haha fuel and engine mounts gona do a big service gota look after my dsm hehe.


Been reading about plugs now and I'm unsure on what I should use! I don't plan on going big hp ubtill I move to america and bring my car over with me! But what should I use?
Bpr6es copper or bpr6iex irodium? Need help on this part now as I'm putting my order through this week and need to get it correct! Don't care if there a lil more then copper just need to be 100% sure any ideas guys and girls? Cheers

 

[FIBA M - EC17PSE]

hi guys right i did the change to the ngk plugs and original wires and its perfect and even picks up much better in the range aswell so thats good. and thanks for all your input and help everyone gona do me some changes aswell to make a few things new.
can someone help me on sparkplug wires ive hearded the accel +300 thindersport are really good! so i might get these instead! but where the wire goes through plug part are these a sealed unit? as my stock ones are sealed and i dont want unsealed as when i clean the engine i could get lubricant down there! can anyone please help me on this and confirm this for me thanks again

 

[98spydereugene]

Use ngk blue's, they work great, especially with ngk bpr6es plugs. I've used them for years on my gstspyder.

 

[FIBA M - EC17PSE]

ok do the ngk come in other colours? as im wanting to keep either yellow or red im really keen on them accel but just want some other reviews on strenth build quality and other issue people have or havent had with them cheers

 

[95fwdtsi18psi]

ok do the ngk come in other colours? as im wanting to keep either yellow or red im really keen on them accel but just want some other reviews on strenth build quality and other issue people have or havent had with them cheers

Nope just blue. Just tuck away the wires if you don't like the color. Zip ties are your best friend!