Racing plans for this year -2012!

[JusMX141]

No need, really. He's doing quite well on the current setup- a HX52 would require a twin-scroll T4 manifold, two wastegates....basically money that Dave doesn't really want to put into the car right now until the cage and bigger injectors are in.

 

[doubled07]

I didn't know they were doing all that. Thats pretty exciting they are actually putting money into the track again. I don't think they have done too much since it was actually Keystone raceway. as long as they don't cancel every event I want to go to that could be fun!

 

[LandSpeed-DSM]

No need, really. He's doing quite well on the current setup- a HX52 would require a twin-scroll T4 manifold, two wastegates....basically money that Dave doesn't really want to put into the car right now until the cage and bigger injectors are in.

Definitely understandable.

I was just curious to see what it would do when pushed, as I have so many projects going on at once.. working 6 days a week, a new house.. the 1G keeps getting delayed

I picked up a standard 67mm to play with while the other is out being worked on to accept the 71mm wheel.

Theres only one or two people Ive seen up and running at more than 30psi. The two dyno'd at that range (27-28psi IIRC) were just shy of 600awhp.. which would be considerably more on my FWD

Cummins says it will service 65+

I just want to get an idea of what it will do north of 40, probably behace somewhere between a 4294 and a 4202 at comparable boost.. but truth is stranger than fiction

 

[JusMX141]

Like I said, no plan to ditch the T3 platform for quite a while. Too much of a financial gap, and I honestly don't think he's seeing the full potential of the HX40 quite yet.

So far we've seen 150+ trap speeds and a mid-9 pass with a horrible 60ft on just 38psi of boost on a hot day with intake air temps gaining 60-65* from the start to the end of the run....AND he's out of injector. Just too much improvement to be had with the current setup to throw in the towel and switch to a larger turbo.

 

[talondave]

I'm going to weigh the car this Saturday at my local land-fill, which is just right up the road, so I'll post up the results.

Yeah Justin is right, we're going to push this setup as far as we can before thinking about another setup, and thats IF i even want to leave the hx40.

Other plans for the car is to hole saw some holes in the rear bumper, ( i got word that if i do that it could net me a few more mph in the 1/4). When you're trapping 150+ every little thing you do for aerodynamics/drag, can really make a difference!

Also, unfortunately I won't be doing any racing untill i get a cage in this thing, I have a kid due in June, so i would like to meet him.. but if i can find a Hx35 with a t3 70ar housing i may go with it, to see what the car runs.

 

[talondave]

Just got back from weighing the car, i was able to shed another 160lbs this past winter, with a weight of 2560! The race weight is 2780 with my fat ass in it. So im ready to find more things to rip out besides the front interior, i want it to still look good from the front seats up.

 

[twicks69]

You gotta do my diet, work 20-22 hours per day, eat one protein filled and carb filled meal (chicken and pasta), work so hard you burn triple the calories you are intaking and drop 30 pounds in 2 months.

I wish my car was that light! I easily have 300-450# more weight with driver in mine.

 

[LandSpeed-DSM]

Like I said, no plan to ditch the T3 platform for quite a while. Too much of a financial gap, and I honestly don't think he's seeing the full potential of the HX40 quite yet.

So far we've seen 150+ trap speeds and a mid-9 pass with a horrible 60ft on just 38psi of boost on a hot day with intake air temps gaining 60-65* from the start to the end of the run....AND he's out of injector. Just too much improvement to be had with the current setup to throw in the towel and switch to a larger turbo.

What sort of airflow were you guys squeezing through that .70 T3 hotside? Any idea what drive pressure looks like with the HX40 turbine crammed in there?

On my S200sx-59 I went and tried 5 different turbine housings, I had a 5bar MAP threaded in to my EGR blockoff plate and found the .70 T3 was still around 2.x:1 Drive/Boost @ 37-38psi and 62-63lbs/min, IIRC

V3 SD calibrated with an Evo8 MAF.

This was with an open 3" downpipe and an ebay tubular manifold with 1-5/8" runners and the 74/64 wheel, not the smaller ~60 exducer BEP turbine wheel.

Overall I picked up 7.x lbs/min out the top end going from the bolt-on .55 BEP housing to the Airwerks divided T4, probably would've made more as I didn't raise the boost any higher than that even though that is already approaching the choke flow limit for the 59mm ETT wheel.

I can't find my logs from spring 2010 when most of this went down unfortunately.

What are you guys looking to do to bring IATs down toward the end of the pull?

I'm going to weigh the car this Saturday at my local land-fill, which is just right up the road, so I'll post up the results.

Yeah Justin is right, we're going to push this setup as far as we can before thinking about another setup, and thats IF i even want to leave the hx40.

Other plans for the car is to hole saw some holes in the rear bumper, ( i got word that if i do that it could net me a few more mph in the 1/4). When you're trapping 150+ every little thing you do for aerodynamics/drag, can really make a difference!

Also, unfortunately I won't be doing any racing untill i get a cage in this thing, I have a kid due in June, so i would like to meet him.. but if i can find a Hx35 with a t3 70ar housing i may go with it, to see what the car runs.

So your going back to an OE comp wheel? Do you know which one yet?

The aero certainly plays a big part when your chugging along above 120mph, are you going to do anything to drop pressure in the wheel wells too? Or just under the bumper cover?

It does sound like theres still a significant bit of improvement left on the table.

Can't wait to see the results when all that is sorted now that you're down below 2800 wet with pilot!

 

[lowell]

You gotta do my diet, work 20-22 hours per day, eat one protein filled and carbon filled meal (chicken and pasta), work so hard you burn triple the calories you are intaking and drop 30 pounds in 2 months.

I wish my car was that light! I easily have 300-450# more weight with driver in mine.

What type of weave do you eat?

 

[JusMX141]

You gotta do my diet, work 20-22 hours per day, eat one protein filled and carbon filled meal (chicken and pasta), work so hard you burn triple the calories you are intaking and drop 30 pounds in 2 months.

...OR we could just throw your skinny ass in the car and it will run guaranteed 8's.

What sort of airflow were you guys squeezing through that .70 T3 hotside?

Around 70-72lb/min peak with both the 6-blade 60mm cast and 6-blade 60mm BatMoWheel.

Any idea what drive pressure looks like with the HX40 turbine crammed in there?

No clue- it's been boost and pray so far.

Overall I picked up 7.x lbs/min out the top end going from the bolt-on .55 BEP housing to the Airwerks divided T4, probably would've made more as I didn't raise the boost any higher than that even though that is already approaching the choke flow limit for the 59mm ETT wheel.

If anything changes, I may track down a .82 Garrett T3 housing and have it machined- that's the housing that is making the magic happen on the FP3794. If it can handle the airflow from that turbo's enormous compressor, it can surely handle what a HX40 can produce.

What are you guys looking to do to bring IATs down toward the end of the pull?

Anything better than it did with the Buschur street core.

So your going back to an OE comp wheel? Do you know which one yet?

Same 60mm 6-blade with the chipped compressor fin that was on the car when it went 10.02 at the Shootout logging under 60 lb/min due to a boost leak in the intercooler core the size of Alaska.

 

[talondave]

Lol i do need to go on a diet! Also i took the car to get weighed with the street rims and tires on it, and my wheels with the slicks are 10lbs lighter each then the street ones, so theres 40lbs less in race trim. I have a couple jobs im doing here soon, so that money will go torwards the roll cage, so im hoping i can get all the money together soon so i can race!

Went for a nice cruise today, and the dogbox is alot of fun on the street got alot of looks cause of the side exit and the real loud whining from the trans.. did a couple 1-2-3 shifts without the clutch with no boost and that was exciting.

 

[talondave]

Well, I picked up a shell with a 10 point chromoly cage and chute mount like a week ago, so Im swapping everything over to the new shell. The shell came pretty much bare with no brake lines, wiring ect! so I have a task ahead of me.
Its a shame I have to scrap a perfect shell to put this one together but oh well life goes on.
So far I have the rear diff and subframe swapped, front subframe and motor swapped. Once I take the car to Frontline fab to have the front roll stop/tube frontend put on, I'll take the motor back out so I can have the engine bay painted to match the car( which is gonna be grey again and look the same as my old talon)... I picked up some manual window doors for it that way I dont have to run wiring. Im also only runing the engine harness and do away with all the other wires in the intire car, and build a custom gauge cluster with autometer gauges! I may run brake, and parking lights but thats about it, its just a drag car now!

Here are some photos of the progress, and more to come as I go!

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[JusMX141]

I'm almost as excited as you, Dave. That cage looks impressive! The car is going to leave the line like never before with the increased overall rigidity of the chassis.

Looking forward to 2200lb curb weight, 8-second passes, and 160+mph trap speeds from the old 6-blade HX40! More importantly, the car will be safer.

 

[talondave]

Photos of the transfer!!!

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[rhamlinii]

Photos of the transfer!!!

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DAMN, you killed your old car the car. It's looking good, 8s should not be a problem. Who is doing your body work and how much was the new shell?

 

[crash89]

Are you going to fab up a tubular front end or cut the front support off the old talon and weld it up? I think the tubular would be quite a bit lighter!!

I cant wait to see this run at the shootout!

 

[talondave]

Who is doing your body work and how much was the new shell?

I will be doing all the body work and so far have been doing everything my self! The shell, and gas to get it was less the $1000.

Are you going to fab up a tubular front end or cut the front support off the old talon and weld it up? I think the tubular would be quite a bit lighter!!

I cant wait to see this run at the shootout!

Yeah Frontline fab is going to make the tube front end!

 

[Nate Crisman]

Looking good Dave, hope the shell treats you well and ends up being a solid deal for you rather than having a cage put in your old car. Keep me posted!

 

[talondave]

Looking good Dave, hope the shell treats you well and ends up being a solid deal for you rather than having a cage put in your old car. Keep me posted!

Thanks Nate. The car is coming together good, just alot of work. I got the trunk latch bracket welded in, so now the trunk latches! Now got to get the dash hangers welded on the fire wall, then the dash will be ready to go in.

Pic of the old talon right before it goes to the junk yard to be crushed.

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[95eclipser]

Thanks Nate. The car is coming together good, just alot of work. I got the trunk latch bracket welded in, so now the trunk latches! Now got to get the dash hangers welded on the fire wall, then the dash will be ready to go in.

Pic of the old talon right before it goes to the junk yard to be crushed.

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Thats a sad day right there, but life does go on.

Drew

 

[rhamlinii]

Thats a sad day right there, but life does go on.

Drew

Damn, I'd be so hurt if that was my car.

 

[HONDA-KILLA]

nice nice nice upgrade

 

[talondave]

Went to Frontline Fab to have the front tube end put on. Turned out perfect just what i needed, Andrew does awesome work!!! Now to start the rest of the mounts and hangers for the bumper, head lights, rad, and intercooler.. So i have alot more work ahead of me.

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[GRAVEDIGGER]

Lookin good!

 

[codeofdastreets]

sick good luck