Powder Coating, how much do I need?

[TheFallenTSI97]

I'm looking at powder coating my after market intake manifold. Probably going to do my calipers, valve cover, and possibly my driver side engine mount. Anyone know about how much powder I would need for this?

 

[CanadianTalonTC]

A pound should easily cover all of that.

What color are you planning on doing? Are you going to clear as well? You'll also need a basecoat depending on what color you've chose or how you want the finish to be.

Joel

 

[TheFallenTSI97]

https://www.powderbuythepound.com/DORMANT_PURPLE/

That's the color I was wanting. But I'll be taking it to someone, that will have the clear already but they won't have that color.

 

[CanadianTalonTC]

Illusion purple from Prismatic is the same color IIRC and is much cheaper. Prismatic Powders: PSB-4629 ILLUSION PURPLE

They also offer illusion violet if you happen to be trying to match any Tial stuff. I used it and it's pretty close.

 

[TheFallenTSI97]

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That's my BOV that's the color I'm trying to match, And you say that Illusion Violet matches that pretty well?

 

[Doubleot]

Yup illusion violet looks pretty close to that

 

[TheFallenTSI97]

And about a pound would do all that? And would any clear have the same result or is it specifically there clear coat?

 

[CanadianTalonTC]

A pound will do all that if you are not dumping half of it on the floor. Any gloss clear should look the same over it, however I used clear vision on this turbo. Here are a few photos from a few different angles in the light. It's very similar but the wastegate itself is anodized and has a tiny bit different look to it. I'm happy with the match myself though. Super chrome base, illusion violet, clear vision clear coat.

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[GSXsnail]

As he said above, Illusion Purple will come close.

 

[Doubleot]

Looks great!

 

[Archer Fabrications]

I probably would have just had the comp cover anodized.

 

[Detective Coating]

I probably would have just had the comp cover anodized.

Good luck with anodizing a cast aluminum piece

 

[Archer Fabrications]

Why is that? ETS Does it often.

Do you even know how anodizing is done? Do you know what it is? It's an oxide layer, it doesnt matter if it's cast or not as long as it's clean.

And from the looks of it it's an FP comp cover so I'm guessing it was brand new.

Looks good none the less, i was jus saying if you were going for the same look i would have anodized instead.

 

[CanadianTalonTC]

Looks great!

Thanks!

I probably would have just had the comp cover anodized.

I prefer powdercoat for a couple reasons, number one being I do it myself and two that on a cast piece that still has a rough finish it really smooths it out the bumps. As you guessed, that was a brand new FP compressor housing. That being said though, I've sandblasted and powder coated old housings and they come out just as good.

Any links to some photos of anodized cast products? I couldn't find any. Seems like it would only work if it was 100% aluminium and even then I doubt the finish would look great. Are compressor covers 100% aluminium?

Joel

 

[Detective Coating]

Why is that? ETS Does it often.

Do you even know how anodizing is done? Do you know what it is? It's an oxide layer, it doesnt matter if it's cast or not as long as it's clean.

And from the looks of it it's an FP comp cover so I'm guessing it was brand new.

ETS does it to billet aluminum, not cast aluminum. And for facts, ETS doesn't do it, they send it out locally to an anodizing shop. Cast aluminum is a dirty pot metal, it can be anodized, it will look like shit.

 

[Archer Fabrications]

Yes they are 100% aluminum.
I'll find one.

 

[Detective Coating]

Yes they are 100% aluminum.
I'll find one.

What don't you get? It is CAST, it is not billet so no it is not 100% aluminum. This is why you'll never see an anodized stock valve cover, intake manifold, compressor housing, etc. They are all CAST, dirty pot metals with sand and other impurities that were made from a mold and not made from a chunk of raw aluminum.

 

[Archer Fabrications]

I can't find the ets red one but i found this.

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And this is a stock anodized valve cover.

Just because it's cast doesnt mean it's not 100% aluminum. Wtf are you smoking.

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[Detective Coating]

The first one is powder coated or painted, the second one is chrome plated. Neither of those are even close to anodizing. Just because you searched google for anodized compressor cover and used the first pictures that showed up, doesn't mean you have a damned clue as to what you're talking about.

 

[Archer Fabrications]

Fyi you can melt pure aluminum and cast with it. It's not always dirty pot metal. Do some research.

Okay maybe the gold one is painted but the blue one is def anodized, you can see the color even goes in the pipes. They polished the outlet.


Anodizing is done using acids and electrolosis. It creates an oxide layer over the aluminum. It can definately be done on cast. You just have to polish it first.

 

[Detective Coating]

Fyi you can melt pure aluminum and cast with it. It's not always dirty pot metal. Do some research.

Do you really think that is what they do for the parts being mentioned or are you just trying to sidetrack to keep from admitting your mistakes?

The MOLD is cast which contaminates the aluminum. Anodizing is done to ONLY billet aluminum, no other form of aluminum that you're trying to come up with.

 

[Detective Coating]

Fyi you can melt pure aluminum and cast with it. It's not always dirty pot metal. Do some research.

Okay maybe the gold one is painted but the blue one is def anodized, you can see the color even goes in the pipes. They polished the outlet.


Anodizing is done using acids and electrolosis. It creates an oxide layer over the aluminum. It can definately be done on cast.

The gold one is chrome plated, not painted. The blue one is not anodized. Anodizing does not have a glossy finish like that. That is a candy blue paint or powder coat, period. Paint and powder goes into pipes as well.

Keep reading the interwebs. Anodizing penetrates the aluminum and is a dye. It is not over the aluminum, it is IN it. Yes, it CAN be done, it WILL look like shit.

And the STM valve cover you added to your post, is powder coated, I know who did it. The spark plug cover is anodized though. Why? Because it was made from billet aluminum!

 

[Archer Fabrications]

The MOULD is also sometimes just oily sand. None the less polish it and it can be anodized.

 

[Detective Coating]

The MOULD is also sometimes just oily sand. None the less polish it and it can be anodized.

Oily sand eh? Do you not see your contradictions and blindness? Those are impurities that go into the CAST aluminum. Polishing it has NOTHING to do with anodizing it. Keep trying though

 

[Archer Fabrications]

Oily sand eh? Do you not see your contradictions and blindness? Those are impurities that go into the CAST aluminum. Polishing it has NOTHING to do with anodizing it. Keep trying though

I'm not pretending to be an anodizing master, ive never done it, but i do know ETS HAS DONE IT. And it looked good.