Possible bent valve from turning by hand?

[lil corb]

Ok guys, here is the situation.

I installed my new Timing belt, because old one had weird blemish on it, with Dowels pointed down on cam gears because I have markings on the outside of them as well. ( I figured it was fine before and if nothing moves I should be ok)

I had everything lined correctly and after tightening tensioner pulley I noticed the gear marks did not line up. The intake cam mark was one or two down then before all of a sudden, I am thinking the belt skipped a tooth or two while tightening. So re did the timing correctly and checked after multiple revolutions and everything lines up.

I then install my ets street kit and started the car and noticed my idle is horrible and it sounds like it's really loped (vacuum at -10 while it was previously had -18) and a slight metal noise but it sounded like intercooler pipe hitting as we haven't secured intercooler to crash beam. Could this be from a possible bent valve by tightening the pulley by hand and the intake valves hit? is it possible it's just a boost leak or I need to Adjust my tune?

Take a look at my timing marks now. (BSE kit)

I am really hoping it's just a Boost leak or this 1000 mile set up is getting parted out!

 

[xxNocturnalxx]

Looks like you are out of time, re-time it and go from there.

And no, you didn't bend any valves turning by hand.

 

[lil corb]

Looks like you are out of time, re-time it and go from there.

And no, you didn't bend any valves turning by hand.

Could you tell me where it is out of time? Everything looks lines up the best we can if I were to adjust any of gears then it would be too far off.

 

[xxNocturnalxx]

you are off one tooth at the gears. the timing marks on the gears need to be at the closest possible point to each other.

So, with the belt on, you need to rotate the exhaust cam clockwise 1 tooth, then loosen the belt and rotate the intake cam counter clockwise 2 teeth. Not necessarily exact or in that order but you get the point.

 

[lil corb]

I see what you are saying! Any damage done running the way it is now from a start up?

Thanks!

 

[952g63t]

Looking at the picture your cam gears look slightly high. Could just be the angle though.

Line the timing marks up and turn 6 revolutions. If the marks line up then your gold. They have to all line up exactly every 6.

Take your time and double check everything.

gl dsm.

 

[lil corb]

Thanks guys, I will re do the whole thing and check back in.
The crank looks good though right?
Any damage done from running it this way for the start up?

 

[1glaserfwd]

I ran my car one tooth off before and it was fine, you should have no problems being a tooth off. Meaning that you did not bend any valves, get her re timed and your golden!

 

[lil corb]

Thanks! Whew I feel better knowing no damage is done!

 

[schalk35]

is it just me or doesnt it look like his oil pump isnt aligned either. Maybe its the pic.

 

[gieri002]

Looking at the picture your cam gears look slightly high. Could just be the angle though.

Line the timing marks up and turn 6 revolutions. If the marks line up then your gold. They have to all line up exactly every 6.

Take your time and double check everything.

gl dsm.

Nailed it, you aligned the cam gears too high. I use a ruler to make sure the notches in the cam gears are perfectly parallel with the cam gear bolts.

 

[xxNocturnalxx]

Yes, I nailed it, thanks.

I didn't see a balance belt so timing the oil pump is not needed.

The crank is fine.

You didn't do any damage.

 

[lil corb]

Excellent! Thanks again to all for help!

And yup, no balancer shafts!

 

[EGLTAWLN]

i trick i use to "check my math" is if you have both cams timed with dowels straight up and you have 15 ribs on your timing belt inbetween the two top dead center ribs on the cams, your cams are in time. helps if you cant get a straightedge on it.