PLEASE help me understand!

[terrystalon]

OK. I've been trying to bleed and adjust my clutch pedal for three days now. Now im doubting if I fully understand the process. I've changed the slave cylinder. Now do I bleed before I adjust the pedal. Or do I bleed after or both? Now for adjusting the pedal. I turn the pedal clutch stoppage all the way back furtherest away from the firewall as it will go, and locked the lock nut. Now Im attempting to turn the MC rod clockwise. What I mean by clockwise is, if im looking at the firewall from inside the vehicle. . Now it seems that no matter how far counter clockwise I go. It seems to be difficult, or should I say the slave is still hard to push in. The pedal has slight pressure when I push down, however as soon as the bleeder valve is opened, it sinks further to the floor and is not getting any kind of return pressure to raise the pedal up. AM I missing or doing something wrong???? Please help!

 

[blkgst97]

Once you are sure the system is fully bled, turn the master cylinder rod clockwise one turn at a time until you can no longer push the slave cylinder in by hand. Once you hit the point where you can not push it in, back the master cylinder rod out one half of a turn. If you can push the slave rod in now then you are set.

 

[terrystalon]

Ok. Does the position of the MC rod matter when u begin to bleed? I have been bleeding a lot and not getting any push back from the pedal. Slight pressure going down. No pressure coming back up. So im wondering if I have the MC rod over adjusted from the start. To be 100%I clear. Turning the rod clockwise means to turn it towards the passenger side. Could I have a bad pedal assembly? Is that also a possibility... ???

Another thing. When bleeding. You open the bleeder valve till it shoots out fluid and once that stream dies down to just barely dribbling down the wrench. Or do u open the bleeder valve and wait a 5 or however long seconds.? I've read just about every article and thread on here for this. It makes sense when im reading it but when im actually doing it im just stuck on stupid.

 

[9!'clipseDOHC]

Another thing. When bleeding. You open the bleeder valve till it shoots out fluid and once that stream dies down to just barely dribbling down the wrench. Or do u open the bleeder valve and wait a 5 or however long seconds.? I've read just about every article and thread on here for this. It makes sense when im reading it but when im actually doing it im just stuck on stupid.

Friend presses the pedal down, you open the bleeder, the fluid rushes out, you close the bleeder, your friend releases the pedal, repeat. So to answer your question, the bleeder should be open for a second or so and that is it, just enough to let the pressure rush out. Make sure you have a hose going from the bleeder into a bottle with the end submerged in brake fluid to prevent air from reentering the system while the bleeder is cracked open.

 

[tenn-gsx]

You will have to pull the clutch pedal up by hand when bleeding it. Also you close the bleed valve once the dutch pedal is at the floor and the fluid or air stops spitting. You might have a slight dribble but the major flow will have stopped. You can bleed the slave without pushing the clutch as well. Just depress the slave rod by hand once you have the bleed screw open. Make sure you hold it depressed till you get the bleed screw closed and check the fluid level often as it only takes 3-4 times to pretty much empty the reservoir.

 

[crash89]

You have to have the system somewhat bled before you can really adjust the pedal assembly.. I usually have a friend push the clutch down and Ill open the valve, just so I know how much fluid is coming out.. Ill usually get a decent stream and right when it dies down Ill close the valve to help prevent any air from somehow getting back into the system.

Once you open the valve and release the pressure the pedal most likely wont come back up on its own. If you were to watch in the reservoir when a buddy lifts the pedal back up you'd notice that itll replace the system with fresh fluid.. That next time down would be pressurized and it should come up on its own..

Now for the adjustment thing. First, if you go clockwise (toward the passenger side) the shaft will be threading out of the bracket. If you were to go as far as you can then check to see if you can press in the slave, you shouldnt be able to. Then go start adjusting the rod in (counter clockwise) a turn or so at a time. Each time checking to see if the slave can be pressed. When you finally can, turn back clockwise half a turn until you cant again. Then go in one half turn as stated above.

Now remember, if you adjust the height pedal comes up you will have to do this all over again. Also, you dont want to bottem out the master. If you feel the pedal stop before the floor something is still wrong and keep adjusting height and travel until you get it right. Hope this helps you out..

 

[terrystalon]

These explanations definitely help me out. Thank you for making it make more sense as far as my current understanding. I will be trying it out tonight or tomorrow again