please help 6 bolt swap

[brandon1261990]

okay i have a 1995 eagle talon im about to go off the deep end i have already got the motor in a running its just the little stuff that is driving me crazy i think i still have some things wrong please help has anybody succesfully done this swap i have looked up alot of fourms but some are not answering my questions if u could help please do im ready to get this car going thank u in advance

 

[bryanwheat]

First off, there is no need to post the same question in 2 sections. Second what problems are you having.

 

[MHuddy1213]

you should delete 1 of the posts well help you out you dont need to post it so many times and whats going on with the car

 

[brandon1261990]

sorry about posting 2 times but i have owned like 30 of these cars but normally 1st gens well i got a 1995 talon now and i did a 6 bolt swap it starts and will drive but for some odd reason it runs like crap it is a complete 6 bolt motor head intake everything when i go to rev it up it gets to like 5 rpms and wont go no higher than that but when i put brand new plugs in it will rev good intell the plugs turn black i think it running way to rich but i dont kno why it would be i got everything right i think

how do i delete a post

 

[MHuddy1213]

do yu have ecmlink or a wideband in it?

 

[brandon1261990]

whats the diffrince between the 2

 

[bryanwheat]

Did you switch the injector plugs around or swap the injector signal wires at the ecu? Have you checked it for boost leaks?

 

[MHuddy1213]

ecmlink is for tuning and datalogging wideband monitor your air to fuel ratio

 

[brandon1261990]

im pretty sure mine is wideband i kno this swap is suppose to be asy but of course i have made it difficult i want to type everything ive done so far but it would take a week to explain

 

[MHuddy1213]

that in another thing that people commonly do wrong like bryan said with the 6 bolt swap the firing order is different

 

[brandon1261990]

mine is wideband thats how i kno its defentley running rich

 

[MHuddy1213]

on the air to fuel ratio gauge does it show numbers like 14.7 or is it just a gauge that says lean stoich and rich on it that has a meter with differnt colors

 

[brandon1261990]

no boost leaks and yes i have tryed every firing order and i did switch my fuel injecters to what magnus said was suppose to be right

 

[brandon1261990]

mine is not digital when i start it it goes straight to red which on my gauge is rich

 

[mchustle]

Did you hook up the 2g mdp sensor off the intake to a vac line since the 6bolt doesnt have it?
Is you ignition timing set right by the cas?
boost leaks like stated above?
Lots of things could be the cause.

 

[mchustle]

mine is not digital when i start it it goes straight to red which on my gauge is rich

That means you have a narrowband not a wideband, that is useless.

 

[brandon1261990]

okay tommrow i will look into a wideband and no boost leaks firing order is correct and i did hook up the mdp does it matter what color cas i have

 

[MHuddy1213]

its very usless also which wire is it hooked up to on the o2 sensor to see if its even giving you any type of reading

get an innovate wideband on stmtuned good price very accurate 200 for them you will need to have it welded 36" from the turbo to get the most accurate reading alot of people just put it in the o2 sensor housing though

 

[brandon1261990]

i cant remember my car is at my friends house im going over there tommrow i will gather all the information i can and get on tommrow night and post everything that i have done and take a couple pictures thank u guys very much i will post to this thread to keep it all together

 

[bryanwheat]

If the firing order is right on the injectors and ignition, and no boost leaks i would suspect that your ignition timing is off, your cam timing is off, you have low compression or you have bigger injectors in there. Is the car throwing a check engine light?

 

[brandon1261990]

thats the weird thing the service light is actually off and hasent came on at all and with dsms as everybody knows the service light is not shy just sayin

 

[MHuddy1213]

how would low compression foul out his plugs? and what size injectors are you running?

 

[bryanwheat]

how would low compression foul out his plugs? and what size injectors are you running?

In complete combustion, fuel not burning all the way. It is a possibility to look into.