Oil Leak On Oil Cover [Merged 9-7] cap gasket dipstick leaking pool

[ECLIPSE4x4]

I wouldn't go ordering rings right yet.

The best thing you can do right now is degrease the engine and run the thing and keep checking on it until you find the leak.

Yeah you should have changed the half moon, and yeah you should have changed the ones around the plugs while it was up. But if the pugs are not oil coated then I would not sweat those unless you have to take the cover off again.

You main concern is where it is leaking. If you can't find that out then we are all just shooting in the dark about what to do.

Back to the oil filler... You are talking about the cap right????

Define SPRAY.

 

[95blackGsTurbo]

Yes diagnose the leak before you start tearing it apart. Rings aren't going to cause it to leak. When I install my VC gasket, I use a 10mm socket and an extension. That's it. No ratchet involved in tightening it down and never had one leak. Sounds like yours got cracked. Are you refering to the filler or are you talking about your dipstick? If it was shooting out I would think you are talking about the dipstick.

BTW Eclipse's aren't 4X4's they are AWD...god I remember those days .

 

[97EclipseGS-T]

yeah... you most likely over tightned them. If you over tighten them, the gasket does not seal evenly around. They only like to be hand tightened. ALOT of places that i have been to to do work seem to use a wrench and tighten them like hell. The valve cover is probably the most delicate piece of metal in the car. They crack very easily. All you want to do is hand screw it in, and maybe a little less than a 1/4 turn with a wrench... thats just to seal it into the valve cover.


-PAUL

 

[Andrew Dahms]

I am talking about the hole beneath the oil cap yes. When I say spray I mean it hits the hood and the injection. When I cleaned out the vc I took it for a ride and came back and the oil seems to be coming from the oil filler (under oil cap). I can't see any visible cracks in the vc and it doesnt seem to be coming from the centre of the vc. (I just put on a new oil cap)

 

[skinnykenny84]

I had to double gasket my oil cap. I had a brand new cap and gasket and it still leaked so I put the old one on to and it stoped. Try that and I bet it will be good as new

 

[this_tsi_8urV8]

The oil 'squirting/spraying' thru the oil cap hole, is b/c your rings/pistons are shot, mine did exactly that and after I rebuilt the engine it stopped.
But I have a great question that seemed part of it was being brought up.
My valve cover leaks massive. I replaced bolts 2x, hand tighten, torqued to spec, DEVO replaced bolts, gaskets been replaced 4x, I replaced the cover 2x, I double gasketed the oil cap, replaced cap/gasket, and it's STILL accumulating on the cover. WHY?
My dad even put "shields" on the cover itself so the oil wont be spraying onto cover and soaking thru. So, What now?

 

[95blackGsTurbo]

Have you checked your PCV valve lately. That will allow excess pressure to build up under the valve cover and cause leaks where it is easiest to get out. Which sometimes is the oil cap.

 

[DSM_Zak]

Sounds to me like the gasket on the oil cap is shot, or needs replacing/doubling.
Try that before the pistons, its a hell of a lot cheaper to try first.

 

[ECLIPSE4x4]

Do me a favor, look under the cap and see if there is a nut to tighten down the clip on the cap. I know the 2G has a clip on the cap to hold the cap in place. Yours may have come loose.

 

[this_tsi_8urV8]

OK, I do not know if those last 3 posted statements are meant for me, but I did those. I replaced w/a new cap, double gasketed the cap, replaced the pcv 3x and still the same problem. So now what?

 

[Joe'sTalon]

I dont know if this will help, but some time ago my mechanic capped off the breather valve that is originally routed back to the intake, the one on the opposite side of the cam gears. While tuning the SAFC I did many hard pulls and later noticed oil leaking from the oil cap. I believe this was because of the excess pressure build up - now, is your problem perhaps the breather valve is blocked off some way?

btw i have since took off the cap

 

[this_tsi_8urV8]

I thought about something being blocked off too, but never really checked into it. I was also thinking that for some reason, there's too much pressure in the crankcase, but the PCV is supposed to help w/that and I have replaced it numerous times. Unless there's another way to relieve crankcase pressure, or any sort of pressure that may be 'pushing' out the oil.

 

[GeosTalon]

Try these:

http://dsm.dejonpowerhouse.com/

Go under BOV-MISC-TOOLS. Top of the list.

 

[this_tsi_8urV8]

Cool, thanks. Seem like it might work. Have you used that before?

 

[GeosTalon]

Getting them for the wife's car. I've used similar items on my Tahoe (Procharged) and Jetta (60 trim turbo). Keeps the engine from becoming 5w30-spewing geyser.

 

[Coup D E'Tat]

My valve cover puddles a little bit, and I'm sure it isn't coming from the spark plug wells, oil cap, etc. I have a very thin hairline crack that seeps oil out very slowly, and eventually builds up. I tried JBWelding it, but for some reason I can never get that crap to work right, so I just live with it.

 

[GeosTalon]

Isn't the valve cover made of plastic? I would try to clean up the valve cover, roughen up the inside of the valve cover with some 80 grit sandpaper and pour some epoxy or fiberglass resin into it, just a little. It *should* fill in the cracks on the valve cover.

That's just a thought...

 

[Strm Trpr]

Isn't the valve cover made of plastic?

No, the VC is made of Cast Aluminum.
The sparkplug well cover is made of plastic.

 

[ECLIPSE4x4]

Isn't the valve cover made of plastic? I would try to clean up the valve cover, roughen up the inside of the valve cover with some 80 grit sandpaper and pour some epoxy or fiberglass resin into it, just a little. It *should* fill in the cracks on the valve cover.

That's just a thought...

Read #3

Don't try to help if you don't know the answer - bad advice can be worse than no advice

 

[GeosTalon]

Do you even OWN a DSM?????

Ok, see right above where you posts at in the reply box?

Read #3

Don't try to help if you don't know the answer - bad advice can be worse than no advice

Okay, I FORGOT! I was asking a question and posting a possible fix. And FYI, an epoxy resin would still work even with aluminum. You need not jump up someone a** for a MISTAKE.

 

[Ludachris]

Yeah Ed, don't be so damn grumpy!

The valve covers are made of aluminum. I've tried JB Weld and it worked for a little while. But in the end, it is probably best to look for another cover that isn't cracked.

 

[blcknspo0ln]

Yeah Ed, don't be so damn grumpy!

The valve covers are made of aluminum. I've tried JB Weld and it worked for a little while. But in the end, it is probably best to look for another cover that isn't cracked.

and to add, when you get your new VC, take it to a machine shop (or if you can do it yourself) to get it checked for flatness. Also look into getting a new valve cover gasket kit that gives you the gasket for the VC and the 4 for the spark plug wells. oh, to avoid cracking a valve cover, torque to HAND TIGHT then another 1/4 turn on the ratchet. The proper torque is 2-3 ft/lb and I can't stress enough that you don't have to torque it a lot to get it to seal.

 

[this_tsi_8urV8]

Well, if all the last 3 posts were meant for me, then I tried those already. Bought 2 VC and brand new gaskets all the time and new bolts and still leaking. So I will end up doing what GeosTalon said, to buy the pcv type thing. Any other ideas would help and be appreciated.

 

[MyBeatGSX]

I had to double gasket my oil cap. I had a brand new cap and gasket and it still leaked so I put the old one on to and it stoped. Try that and I bet it will be good as new

Same thing I did. I had the same oil spray problem, my AFPR was covered, the hood was covered, the fuel rail and manifold were all covered in oil and it was pooling in the valve cover. I bought an aftermarket cap, it fixed it for like a week. I eventually put the original gasket on top of the one already on the ricer cap and it fixed the problem. Its an extremely tight fit, but it worked.

 

[this_tsi_8urV8]

OK question now for anyone, but directed to GEOSTALON, that valve from Dejon, its a one-way valve. So WHERE is the BOOST going? Its going somewhere, but where? Will it not blow another gasket or something else with the pressure????
Thanks!